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HossC Aug 10, 2016 7:12 PM

:previous:

Thanks for the reminder, Bristolian. I remember watching the wig wag video, but I'd forgotten it was at the Crenshaw Lumber Co.


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The title of this Julius Shulman photoset is "Job 2544: Statler Hotel, public area, 1958". There's no other information, so I'm assuming it's the Statler Hotel in Los Angeles. The first picture appears to show quite a small room.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

I wasn't sure what these seats were for until I saw the piano on the stage.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

The last two pictures show a dining room.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

It looks like the cake has been served already.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

ethereal_reality Aug 10, 2016 8:04 PM

I'm Baaaaaack. ;)


Here's today's 'mystery' location from the series of 12 sepia photographs.


Building #4

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/vxxbBa.jpg
eBay

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HossC Aug 10, 2016 8:32 PM

:previous:

The 1929 CD (the first I checked) lists the California Store Fixture Co Inc at 763 S Los Angeles Street. The building is still there.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...FixtureCo1.jpg
GSV

ethereal_reality Aug 10, 2016 8:45 PM

:previous: Oh my....well at least it's still standing.

Thanks for locating it Hoss.

ethereal_reality Aug 10, 2016 9:05 PM

I really like this amateur snapshot (taken by a fan?) of a disheveled Joan Blondell with an unidentified man.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/NoPEdq.jpg
found in an old file of mine

Does anyone recognize the gentleman at the wheel of this convertible?

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GaylordWilshire Aug 10, 2016 9:22 PM

:previous:

I think that's her husband-- not sure at what point-- George Barnes. A cameraman...

unihikid Aug 10, 2016 9:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7526993)
:previous:

Thanks for the reminder, Bristolian. I remember watching the wig wag video, but I'd forgotten it was at the Crenshaw Lumber Co.


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The title of this Julius Shulman photoset is "Job 2544: Statler Hotel, public area, 1958". There's no other information, so I'm assuming it's the Statler Hotel in Los Angeles. The first picture appears to show quite a small room.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original



All from Getty Research Institute

The Statler seems like they went first class...That's a RCA Color set..I had one that i foolishly tossed because i didn't know at the time you could have the crt rebuilt. These sets are hard to come by and they also had remote controls that are even rarer than the sets.

ethereal_reality Aug 10, 2016 9:33 PM

We've seen numerous images of China City, but I'm pretty sure we haven't seen this particular image for NLA.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/1Wbggi.jpg
eBay

"Lotus Road, China City, Los Angeles "








As a reminder, here's one of the earlier images of China City. (this one showing 'Dragon Road')

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/Q9gNd5.jpg
http://www.lmu.edu/

Earlier on NLA, we discussed the two hotels across the street from China City (in the distance in the above image)
If I remember correctly, the one on the left is the Sunset Hotel and the one on the right is the San Fernando Hotel.


Here's a better view of the two hotels [below]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/7shiez.jpg
from the early days of the thread.




To see a 1950s color slide of a 'pagoda' at China City.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=14503

For NLA newbies: China City was a separate entity and a rival of the New Chinatown

Blaster Aug 10, 2016 9:52 PM

That's definitely George Barnes in the picture with Blondell. He was a top cinematographer whose credits include REBECCA, JANE EYRE, SPELLBOUND and WAR OF THE WORLDS.

ethereal_reality Aug 10, 2016 10:16 PM

Good to know Blaster. Rebecca is one of my favorite movies.


Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 7527132)
I think that's her husband-- not sure at what point-- George Barnes. A cameraman...

Yep, you're correct GW.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/OMVuTq.jpg
https://www.pinterest.com/priscillal...joan-blondell/

George Barnes was Joan Blondell's first husband from 1933 to 1936 (she had three). -husbands, that is.


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ethereal_reality Aug 11, 2016 3:54 AM

'ROCKET' Messenger Service.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/924/mldQix.jpg
eBay




reverse.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/C4L1sG.jpg

Delmar Watson Photos
6042 Hollywood Blvd.
Hollywood






Larger, for your viewing pleasure.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/dTVJCQ.jpg
detail

hmmmm.......6048...if the building had multiple tenants the photographer might have been located in the same building.

It's difficult to locate on gsv because I believe we're looking at the back of the building.


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ethereal_reality Aug 11, 2016 4:41 AM

With all the current talk about body cameras, this small blurb seems rather prescient.

1930s?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/YSgrTW.jpg
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/index.php

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Beverly Hills Police Department, Camera "Cops"

HossC Aug 11, 2016 3:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7527436)

'ROCKET' Messenger Service.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/924/mldQix.jpg
eBay

It's difficult to locate on gsv because we're looking at the back of the building.

Rocket Messenger Service appears at 6048 Hollywood Boulevard in the CDs throughout the 1960s. I think the picture above is looking south, because Carlton Way is lined with palms. With that in mind, I've arrowed what I think is the most likely building on the 1964 aerial below on the left. It looks like there was something in the parking lot area in the view below, but everything else seems about right. The building had gone by the time the 1972 aerial (below, right) was taken, so there's not much point looking on GSV (other than to see the palm trees on Carlton Way).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Historic Aerials

The company still appears to be in business. Their website says they have been "Serving the entire Los Angeles County and surrounding areas since 1944". Four phone numbers are listed, including one on Hollywood, but there are no addresses. Apparently, "It's Not Rocket Science...It's Rocket Messenger".

ethereal_reality Aug 11, 2016 4:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7527713)

"It's Not Rocket Science...It's Rocket Messenger".

lol. Love it:previous:

Thanks for your help Hoss. It's always good to see your aerials.

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ethereal_reality Aug 11, 2016 4:19 PM

I happened upon these two slides a while back on eBay.

I found the locations of the first one, but the second one remains a 'mystery' location.


Slide #1

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/Ls2kBH.jpg


..and here's how it looks today.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/aYQDAk.jpg
gsv
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Slide #2

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/zaU8ta.jpg

Since the slides were paired, there's a good possibility they were both taken in the same general area.

-note the interesting building on the left with the liquor store. -it appears to be triangular....maybe.



If you look closely, there's a bakery in the building as well.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/85IQj1.jpg


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Color me embarrassed :(. I initially thought the gas prices were 3.19 dollars !

I just looked it up and gas during the 1973/74 oil embargo peaked at 55 cents a gallon.

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Martin Pal Aug 11, 2016 5:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7527178)
Good to know Blaster. Rebecca is one of my favorite movies.
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George Barnes won a Cinematography Oscar for REBECCA. The only other Oscar that film won was--Best Picture.


P.S.: "Last night I dreamt I went to Manderly again..."

ethereal_reality Aug 11, 2016 7:15 PM

Cherokee Super Service, 1958.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/CoLiQm.jpg
old file. usc/automobile club of southern california collection

I looked through a few city directories & found all kinds of 'Cherokee' (as in Cherokee Street and the Hollywood Cherokee Building) but no 'Cherokee Super Service'.


The telephone number on the tow truck door begins with HO, which is the prefix for Hollywood, right?

ethereal_reality Aug 11, 2016 7:23 PM

I also found this 1932 of a wrecked car that was taken at the "Cherokee Garage".

I wonder if this was the same place, but many years earlier.

"Cadillac convertible coupe, Russell Hoppon owner, at Cherokee Garage, Southern California, 1932"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/17szgo.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/64755/rec/1


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/bpneCb.jpg

But still no address. :(

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HossC Aug 11, 2016 8:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7528128)

Cherokee Super Service, 1958.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/CoLiQm.jpg
old file. usc/automobile club of southern california collection

I looked through a few city directories & found all kinds of 'Cherokee' (as in Cherokee Street and the Hollywood Cherokee Building) but no 'Cherokee Super Service'.


The telephone number on the tow truck door begins with HO, which is the prefix for Hollywood, right?

I found Cherokee Super Service at 1610 N Cherokee Avenue in the 1960 CD. I only found it because I searched for Hills U Drive (see left of picture above).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...erService1.jpg
LAPL

Flyingwedge Aug 11, 2016 8:16 PM

1130 Westchester Place
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5515602)
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-T...s632/rives.jpgEstately

Yet another interesting Westchester Place house is #1130... the Judson Rives house at the ne corner of 12th Street. It is not only next door to Rosenheim's house--it was designed by him. Sam Watters's book Houses of Los Angeles 1885-1919 has some great early shots unobstructed by vegetation. The nuns who once occupied Rosenheim's house also owned this one.... The shot above is not clear, though interesting in that it almost looks like a painting--anyway, it's the best shot I could find. Current Google views reveal almost nothing of the house behind the jungle.

The view from the street hasn't changed much since GW's December 2011 post; this is the best I could find:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...e.jpg~original
Dec 2014 GSV


But if we travel back to the January 1918 edition of The Architect and Engineer of California, we get a much better view of
Judson Rives' six-bedroom, four-bathroom home at 1130 Westchester Place (Los Angeles Historic-Cultural Monument #661):

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...u.jpg~original
HathiTrust


http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...u.jpg~original
HathiTrust


http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...y.jpg~original
HathiTrust


Here is a description of the house:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...8.jpg~original
March 29, 1913, Southwest Contractor and Manufacturer @ HathiTrust


This is the building permit for the house:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original
LADBS


The BP for the garage is dated August 4, 1913:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...j.jpg~original
HathiTrust


Let's look inside the house:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...s.jpg~original
HathiTrust (March 1916)


http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...9.jpg~original
HathiTrust


http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...c.jpg~original
HathiTrust


I like the solarium:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...l.jpg~original
HathiTrust


Judson C. Rives died on Saturday, November 16, 1940:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...s.jpg~original
November 18, 1940, LA Times @ ProQuest via LAPL


1130 Westchester Place is just to the right of bottom center in this 1948 aerial view:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...1.jpg~original
Historic Aerials


The Sisters of Social Service, who occupied 1120 Westchester Place next door, took over 1130 in 1946. This article says they
were willed the "Reeves" mansion. In 1954 they built a structure on the south side of the grounds, along 12th Street:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...b.jpg~original
August 2, 1954, Building Permit @ LADBS


Perhaps at some point the sisters took additional security measures as well:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...w.jpg~original
December 1, 1946, LA Times @ ProQuest via LAPL


We can see what was built in 1954 in this 2016 GoogleEarth view; again, 1130 is just to the right of bottom center:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...1.jpg~original


1130 Westchester Place was sold in 1999 and today seems to be the home of The Descartes Institute. Below, along the bottom,
1120 Westchester Place is on the left, and 1130 is on the right.

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...y.jpg~original
Bing


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