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I doubt there's anything that can be done, but I have a question about a parking ticket. Friday night I parked in a metered spot at about 8:40pm. I was unloading equipment for a show, helping a local business and just plain forgot to pay the meter. I owe a dollar at most and I got a $50 ticket for it, which is straight up theft.
I would happily pay $5 or $10, but not $50, it's insane. Does contesting the ticket ever get the fine reduced to a sane amount? Or am I just wasting my time and I should just pay and get it over with? I don't understand being that blatent with the fines. Now I have $50 to recoup, which means I won't be spending it in Chicago this weekend. What's the benefit of that? |
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I sympathize but it's not going to be reduced. You violated a parking zone and got a ticket. in all honesty, $50 is already getting off easy. The benefit to the city is that next time you'll pay the meter, and you'll serve as a cautionary tale so that other people also don't "forget" to pay the meter. You see it as $1. They see your tale as preventing dozens or hundreds of dollars in "forgotten" meter payments going forward from not only you, but other people. Also, this has nothing to do with Chicago transit, so should probably be removed. |
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Actually, I'd be really interested to see a study on how people access Ravenswood... how close to the station they live, whether they walk/bike/drive/take the bus, are they commuting to the Loop or the North Shore, etc. |
Mode share survey data’s on rtams from 2006:
55% Walked 24% Drive Alone 4% Dropped Off 3% Carpool 6% Bus 3% Rapid Transit 4% Bike 1% Taxi Nothing I saw on sample size or error bars for those figures. The small share dropped off was pretty surprising to me. |
Thanks; I thought rtams might have it, but the site kept crashing on me.
So, apparently, dropoffs will not be a significant problem on Lawrence. :) The bike modeshare is surprisingly low; I chalk it up to the total lack of decent bike parking. |
Yea, during the day the bike racks that are there are totally overflowing with bikes. There aren't enough bike racks at the station for all the bikes.
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Yeah, Metra doesn't provide very good bike parking. Even at Clybourn they continue to maintain that small parking lot between the viaducts (which is dangerous due to sight distances). They spent a ton of money on fancy bike racks with canopies that only added 20 spaces or so.
At Ravenswood they should take a few of the angled parking spots and build a bike corral, especially now that Lawrence will have bike lanes. |
New Nippon-Sharyo cars for Metra Electric
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,7262832.story
Richard Wronski Tribune reporter 1:33 p.m. CST, November 14, 2012 Metra on Wednesday unveiled the first four of its new “Highliner” cars that will go into service later this week on the Electric District Line. They are the first of 160 cars being built at a new Nippon Sharyo Manufacturing LLC plant in Rochelle, Ill. The cars are replacing ones that date back decades, to the pre-Metra days of the former Illinois Central Railroad. The new cars feature modern amenities like power outlets for personal electronic devices, upgraded seating and new flush toilets. Metra Electric Highliner cars MAPS 151 N Michigan Ave, Chicago, IL 60601, USA Blue Island, IL, USA University Park, IL, USA E 93rd St & S Baltimore Ave, Chicago, IL 60617, USA Officials dedicated the first car to the late Metra director Elonzo “Lonnie” Hill, who served on the commuter rail agency’s board from 2003 until his death in 2009. The Electric District Line runs 170 trains a day carrying about 36,000 riders between Milennium Station, Blue Island, South Chicago and University Park. The new cars will cost $577 million and are being purchased through a $31 billion state bond program. Eventually, all 145 1970s-era Metra Electric cars will be replaced with the new equipment. The first 80 car “shells” are being constructed in Japan and shipped to Rochelle for completion. The remaining 80 will be entirely manufactured at the new plant. Nippon Sharyo had previously outsourced the final assembly of its passenger cars to Super Steel in Milwaukee. The $35 million Nippon Sharyo plant was dedicated in July. Officials said the Rochelle facility will give the company greater control over its workforce and will position the company to surpass Buy America requirements, which allows companies to tap into federal incentives through states, municipalities or transit authorities. Under the requirements, companies have to produce 60 percent of the total value of the rail cars in the U.S. The final assembly must be made by American workers with American-produced steel, iron and manufactured components. To lure Nippon Sharyo, the state offered an incentives package worth more than $4.7 million in training funds, grants, corporate income tax credits and other incentives. Nippon Sharyo pledged to create at least 250 jobs in the state and retain 15 workers from its previous office in Arlington Heights. rwronski@tribune.com Twitter @richwronski |
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Umm, the city doesn't get any money from the meters now though. There was that huge parking meter deal under Daley, so they aren't losing any customers. The city still makes money from parking tickets though.
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I'm pretty sure that's the case, because I needed something ticketed in my alley and there were two different types of people patrolling the spots in front, and the City worker told me only City employees could ticket in the alley and the others could only ticket in the alley. |
^ I don't think the meter company has jurisdiction over anything beyond the metered spots. Occasionally they could theoretically serve as eyes and put calls into the City as a courtesy about violations though.
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Now there will be a $2.75 surcharge on blue lines trips from ohare. Way to encourage transit usage.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/11/...pose-hikes-to/ |
Still about 30 dollars cheaper than the cheapest cab ride
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Im utterly perplexed by these fare changes. Why are they hitting 30 day riders the hardest? Its like a 16% increase for them. And all the while keeping single rides the same price. In what world are you actually penalized for buying things in bulk? I would not at all be surprised to see use of those passes drop, which would seem to run counter to the CTAs goals.
Also, does someone know if the 30 day pass fare increase will also hit those who use a Chicago Card Plus as a monthly pass? |
Well at least single ride trips in from the Airport would be reasonable to most out of towners. I'll hate paying it as a local but taking the DC Metro and SF BART this would still seem reasonable in comparison.
Time to stock up on those One-Day and Three-Days for friends visiting! I'm currently a Chicago Plus Card Pay As You Go member since I live downtown and bike to work so I guess I'm safe for now. But for monthly pass holders this really really sucks. The price drop for children is silly. I'm sure next years truancy stats will show no correlation. I doubt the fare increases will create substantial modal switch in commuting. Even if you already own a vehicle but commute by train and decided to ditch your monthly pass, you'd still be paying $300 or more to drive and park in the loop. Many companies also subsidize CTA passes, so there will be a bit of cushion there But hey, bicycling is always free and federal benefits cover cost of bicycle repairs and maintenance |
Well I always take a taxi from the northside to the nearest blue line to the airport. I just pay as I go for the CTA. So, it would almost be the same price to take a taxi all the way now. Not to mention the greater baggage storage, comfort, and convenience of door to door service with a taxi. Or like you say couples or friends going together. Its a bigger impact than you might think.
Now if they extended the Brown line to Jefferson Park I would rather take the train to O'hare. Hopefully someday. :) |
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Woww--those are big increases. I wonder if they did any studies on potential effects on ridership?
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The CTA isnt going to fix their inherent massive structural problems by constantly hitting up the ridership. |
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I am a little pissed about the percentage increase in the one day. I buy them often. I won't stop buying them but I may use my Metra pass more often.
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this would all make more sense to me if single fares had been increased too. |
Well, how much cost for 3-days pass? Is that $20? It's too expensive! This is ridiculous!! We just pay $14 for 3-days passes. What about discounted price for Seniors or Disability?
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That's true, but inflation isn't the best index because it's an average and doesn't take into account the rising income inequality. You really have to compare CTA fares to the income trend of the lowest wage-earners, not the economy as a whole. The problem is that CTA's costs are not scaling in line with working-class wages, because CTA's costs are driven by labor and that labor is unionized.
The real solution is to make the taxing system more progressive. |
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Interesting if true. It's great that CTA is so democratic. Do you have a source?
I'm still not sure it matters, though. Raising CTA fares, even just to match inflation, will still disproportionately affect the lowest wage-earners, whose wages are not rising in parallel with inflation. |
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How long does it take to decorate the car?
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Damn, that's pretty cool
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must be a perminant setup. |
^ Would be an easy way to convert the naysayers on the new aisle-facing railcars.
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cant believe i helped elect this moronic prick. i mean seriously???? Does this idiot have the slightest clue about the need for affordable mass transit? i honestly thought this guy would have some basic understanding of urban planning and development. boy was i wrong. he is a political ass clown with no sense whatsoever in these matters.
even if you agree prices had to go up, or really, even if you have a big mouth and are generally known as an asshole like him, you dont say what he said unless you are clueless. Emanuel on CTA increases : Chicagoans can choose to drive http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/p...0,793097.story By John Byrne Clout Street 4:10 p.m. CST, November 26, 2012 Mayor Rahm Emanuel had a message Monday for CTA riders upset about upcoming fare hikes: they’re not really fare increases, public transit remains a bargain and commuters can “make that choice” about whether to drive or take buses and trains. “Fares stayed the same. Basic fares stayed the same, which you cannot say about gas prices,” said Emanuel in his first public comments since the CTA announced a 2013 budget proposal last week. |
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2013 CTA Holiday Train at East Cottage Grove
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...ttageGrove.jpg
The six passenger cars are CTA 2893-2898, but surprisingly they are not consisted in numerical order. DH |
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Having the Mayor come out and say "It is what it is, if you don't like it don't use it... I dare you" is childish and irresponsible. The CTA rail system has seen years of steady growth, why on earth would you say anything to jeopardize that, especially when the most sought after constituents are likely the ones with the ability to choose others means of transit... or cities. |
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On some level, I sympathize... the CTA simply can't keep plowing capital investment into operations, or the transit-dependent will really be up shit creek when the viaducts start falling down. CTA can't rely on strong growth in sales or real-estate tax revenues to balance the budget, either, which leaves fare increases and labor adjustments. Claypool has done both - it was unrealistic to expect him to make up the shortfall entirely through playing hardball with the unions. However, Rahm's rhetoric is really disappointing. I'd love to see an attempt to expand reduced-fare programs (and reduce barriers to access) in conjunction with any fare increases. That would be the compassionate approach... |
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Before you say that's insensitive, consider this: Currently, if you're poor enough to need assistance in Chicago, you have to go to one agency for housing assistance, one for medical assistance, one for transit assistance, etc. Wouldn't it be far more compassionate and humanizing for those in need to be able to go to one agency, get their income situation evaluated one time, and then have access to whatever it is they need assistance with? So I don't just advocate moving reduced fare media out of the CTA's purvey, but centralizing all the human services programs into one access point for those in need. THAT would be the compassionate thing to do, not having a bunch of different agencies that people need to decipher and separately qualify for. |
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Even if the CTA is still reasonably priced, and I agree that it is (I dont agree with the increase on the passes only though), what he said showed incredible insensitivity to the issues that working class people who use CTA deal with. Riding mass transit is a necessity for many and for them to be impacted in their wallet with no recourse, and to hear their problem completely dismissed by him, is a real slap in the face. Thats all i am complaining about. |
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Riding the trains with discounted fares isn't a necessity. In some locales, more than half the riders are using discounts. If the options were to reduce the discounts or reduce the services, I'll favor reducing the discounts every time. Personally, I would prefer to see all discounts eliminated, maybe-just-maybe the trains would not require as much subsidy if half the riders were not riding free or with half fares. |
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I think it's a huge misunderstanding. He even stated in the first place it's $50 to cab downtown from the airport many times, and it's $5 to take the train. If people have the choice to drive or take the train - they're obviously still goign to be fine with the price difference of taking the train. Gas prices go up up up, but transit prices don't slowly slide, and while they still need to increase, it's more of a sensation when it happens because it's more in big bursts than a few cents every month. |
^ I think Rahm did something that many mayors would cringe to do: be brutally honest in front of your constituents.
The most obvious example: pay $5.00 to take a 45-minute Blue line train downtown, or $45-50 for a cab that may get stuck in a 1-2 hour perpetual parking lot we call the Kennedy Expressway at the height of rush hour. Is it really that hard for some folks to understand this concept? Chicago's transit system is still a steal in comparison to other systems in a national and global context. Maybe I'm just being a prick, but that's how I see it... |
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Whether you’re a politician or a business person, empathy is necessary to reassure your clientele that you are giving them a fair deal. No one has adequately explained why passes are going up and not base fares, especially on a system that relies so heavily on passes. Everything I have read over the past few years suggests that people want small incremental increases, yet the CTA is setting up large one time increases without explaining why. Furthermore, no one in government has said that they understand it will be hard for some but the CTA needs the money. Instead it comes across as “why are you complaining, I am not raising fares, look how bad ass I am.” Or another example, he talked about the $5 fare from O'Hare as if it would only affect those going downtown. Now I agree, $5 to downtown is a good deal but what about $5 to Cumberland, Jefferson Park, etc. Quote:
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