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jamesinclair Sep 7, 2015 11:03 PM

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Busy Bee Sep 8, 2015 2:30 AM

Those are shoes. For your feet.

chris08876 Sep 8, 2015 3:12 AM

Kinda wish I had a mansion on Governors Island. All to myself, of course. Views are impeccable. Add a nice helipad, so I can commute to work like a boss.

Or I could convert it to a place where people pay to hunt. Almost like NYC's version of "The Most Dangerous Game". :D

Maybe we could place the restaurant owners with a C rating, and have them duke it out for an upgrade to an A. Just throwing some ideas around.

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10023 Sep 8, 2015 5:24 PM

Not that I'm a fan of the idea anyway (I think the London Eye is a tourist trap and an eyesore), but if you're going to build this shouldn't it be on Governor's Island rather than Staten Island:

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chris08876 Sep 8, 2015 6:20 PM

That would probably look terrible in Govt Island. Would somewhat ruin the aesthetics of the skyline when viewed from the bay and from SW Brooklyn. In a way, it gives people an incentive to go to the island, and the mall should aid in generating some nice income for the area.

streetscaper Sep 8, 2015 6:48 PM

Putting the wheel on Governor's Island would ruin the downtown skyline from so many angles... even when looking south from midtown it would figure so prominently and obtrusively.

pico44 Sep 9, 2015 1:20 PM

I think putting the Ferris wheel on Governors Island is a very bad idea. I agree with you that the London Eye is an awful eyesore, so I'm curious why you would want to set this one immediately next to downtown New York and have it tower over the Brooklyn Promenade and Statue of Liberty? Not to mention ruining the peaceful prettiness and sight lines of a new park that will likely need crowd control. I think it's perfect where it is. Far away.

chris08876 Sep 9, 2015 2:07 PM

Its better for the views in Staten Island. What Govt Island does need is a small bridge connecting it to Manhattan. Nothing overpowering, but a small, pedestrian walkway bridge would be sweet. Well, it could work, but now that I think about it, it might interfere with ships or boats.

BoM Trespasser Sep 9, 2015 2:14 PM

Honestly the location of the London wheel that dominates the Parliament buildings - is an embarrassment. No reason to duplicate that mistake in NYC. Current site on SI is a good one.

aquablue Sep 9, 2015 11:03 PM

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Its better for the views in Staten Island. What Govt Island does need is a small bridge connecting it to Manhattan. Nothing overpowering, but a small, pedestrian walkway bridge would be sweet. Well, it could work, but now that I think about it, it might interfere with ships or boats.

Yes, a pedestrian bridge is the way to go. If it interferes with the shipping lanes, well there are other options. Best would be an underwater tunnel of some kind for pedestrians.

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BoM Trespasser Sep 29, 2015 11:35 PM

Thanks for the GI Hills dev. update chris08876:)

mrnyc Sep 30, 2015 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by aquablue (Post 7158262)
Yes, a pedestrian bridge is the way to go. If it interferes with the shipping lanes, well there are other options. Best would be an underwater tunnel of some kind for pedestrians.

unless they bring back the wacky gondola idea -- the ferry service is fine.

CCs77 Sep 30, 2015 2:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 7156391)
Not that I'm a fan of the idea anyway (I think the London Eye is a tourist trap and an eyesore), but if you're going to build this shouldn't it be on Governor's Island rather than Staten Island:

One of the main reasons they put it on SI is to attract tourist there, icentivate the tourist going in the SI ferry and inmediately turn back to Manhattan to spend some time in SI. It is also attached to a larger development that includes mall and a hotel.

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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 7157501)
Its better for the views in Staten Island. What Govt Island does need is a small bridge connecting it to Manhattan. Nothing overpowering, but a small, pedestrian walkway bridge would be sweet. Well, it could work, but now that I think about it, it might interfere with ships or boats.

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Originally Posted by aquablue (Post 7158262)
Yes, a pedestrian bridge is the way to go. If it interferes with the shipping lanes, well there are other options. Best would be an underwater tunnel of some kind for pedestrians.

A "small" pedestrian bridge to Manhattan, really? that "small" bridge must be a kilometer long, in order to span the shortests distance between the two islands, but that would be landing at the SI Ferry piers, so, they'd have to make it longer so it lands in a different place avoiding the piers. Also, it should have the same clearance of the other East River bridges, which is 40 meters. They could make it movable, but I think they'd have to open it so many times during the day that it wouldn't be worthed, so no "small" bridge there.
If they build a tunnel, it should be as well a kilometer long, so, why would the people walk a kilometer on a dark tunnel while they could made the trip on a boat instead, under the sun and enjoing the vistas?

And not to mention how much it would cost to build either options (tunnel or bridge) I think that money could be better used in many other things.

But what I do think they should do, is begin to open the island all year round, instead of just in summer time.

jamesinclair Oct 5, 2015 1:10 AM

A gondola / aerial tram makes a lot more sense

McSky Oct 12, 2015 5:48 PM

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chris08876 Feb 5, 2016 4:08 AM

De Blasio to unveil mixed-use project for Governors Island, sources say

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Mayor Bill de Blasio is expected to announce a significant economic development project on Governors Island during his State of the City speech Thursday night, multiple sources told POLITICO New York.

The project is one of several economic development initiatives the mayor is slated to discuss during his speech, the sources said.

De Blasio is giving control of the project to the Trust For Governors Island, which is expected to seek private developers to create a mixed-use facility on the car-free island, the sources said.

The formal solicitation for ideas would be issued in the summer and a request for bidders would be released later in the year, according to information provided by the mayor's office. Construction could begin as early as 2019.

Governors Island has 900,000 square feet of space that could be developed.

Three sources familiar with City Hall's plans said the mayor is looking to create spaces for a cultural institution, technology uses, education and business development.

A fourth source said the administration has toyed for a while with what to do with Governors Island, and that development on the land has always been a challenge because residential development is prohibited and transportation is scarce and reliant upon ferries, which are expensive.


Governors Island, which encompasses 172 acres, lies between Lower Manhattan and Brooklyn in the New York Harbor. It was home to a military base for nearly 200 years. The island is now open to the public during the summer season.
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jamesinclair Feb 5, 2016 10:11 PM

Horrible idea, it should be kept as open space and park land.

On the good news side, the Hills will open next summer, a year early. The warm witner has allowed them to continue construction

jbermingham123 Feb 20, 2016 1:00 AM

i don't like the idea of anything other than boats going to governors. Ferries go by the island every 10 minutes or so... all would take is a simple reroute. A boat could stop at the island every 15-20 minutes.

NYguy Feb 20, 2016 2:01 AM

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Horrible idea, it should be kept as open space and park land.

On the good news side, the Hills will open next summer, a year early. The warm witner has allowed them to continue construction


The vast majority of the island is an open, public space. But that doesn't just happen for free. I spent a lot of time over there in the past year,
and it has already become one of my favorite places in the city. When the zombies finally do come, I think I can live out my days there...



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