Double Bow Knot Boulevard In Lookout Mtn. Park
I am a long-time lurker to this thread and have read up to page 340 or so. I have great respect for the knowledge and passion shown by virtually all the posters; you all have made and are making a significant addition to the historiography of Los Angeles. Great job!
I live in Lookout Mountain Park, and when I read 3940dxer's posts on the Lookout Mountain Inn, my interest was piqued. For my first post, I thought I would share some information about a mystery street that 3940dxer found: Double Bow Knot Boulevard. 3940dxer posted the following postcard (and if I fail at embedding images, I ask your pardon and would be grateful for any direction to make it succeed.) http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Lookout/double.bow.bl.jpg I know most of the streets in this neighborhood quite well, but this was a total blank. Recently, I found a (public domain) 1924 USGS topo map of Burbank whose SW corner included Lookout Mountain Park. To my surprise, I found Double Bow Knot Blvd.: http://imageshack.us/a/img203/2998/sdwh.png I have added a few modern street names for context. Next is a Bing Maps view of the modern street alignment, with the general area of the switchbacks outlined in orange. Then come two Bing Maps bird's-eye views of the area which actually show the switchbacks (arrows). Lastly I will post a contemporary LA County Assessor's index map which clearly shows upper and lower Crescent were connected when originally surveyed. Modern streets: http://imageshack.us/a/img13/6629/5opp.jpg Aerial view: http://imageshack.us/a/img19/1108/a5y8.jpg Close-up: http://imageshack.us/a/img11/9648/skwh.jpg County Assessor's map showing connection of upper and lower Crescent Drive: http://imageshack.us/a/img17/3434/8jjg.jpg I'll close by mentioning that this area is a 10 minute walk from my house, and that the grades are still visible, although after 100 years, the vegetation has pretty much reclaimed everything. Hope to post more on this area in the near future. |
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A little more on Tom Mix's addresses, from 1915: He was at 409 Cedar Street in Glendale with Olive per a 1915 city directory; he had a listing in the 1916 LA CD at 836 West 6th in 1916 (perhaps a crash pad while the marriage to Olive was breaking up); at 1766 N Bronson in the 1917 LA CD, perhaps another bachelor pad; he was at 614 Golden Gate Ave in the 1918 LA CD, but by September of 1918, per his draft information, he was at 5841 Carlton Way with Victoria--apparently remaining there until 1926. By 1930, he and Victoria were at 1330 Schuyler Road, which, rather than being listed as in Beverly Hills, is listed as being in "Los Angeles City"--and, interestingly, is a house we've seen here before but in connection with other Hollywood bigshots: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1960 Per the 1931 BH CD, he was at 1010 Summit Drive. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1...2520PM.bmp.jpg Whadda dump: This house is NOT 5841 Carlton Way--that was on the vacant lot--but rather the one next door to the west, which perhaps gives an idea of the neighborhood in the '20s. Looks like Tom lived pretty modestly until movin' on up to Beverly Hills... https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--...2520PM.bmp.jpg 1330 Schuyler Road recently |
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Thank you for sharing your information with us here at noirish Los Angeles. __ |
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Thank you very much, E_R!, I really appreciate it! If I weren't for your incredible thread, I would never have stumbled across the Huntington Library Archive photo that set off my curiosity. It's because of the "noirish Los Angeles" community that the slide presentation came to pass. P.S.: The whole presentation was filmed. As soon as this video (nearly an hour!) is posted online, may I send you a link to it? It's filled with many never-published photos that I can't post here, unfortunately. . |
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Does anybody know if this house still exists?
It's supposed to be the home of John Barrymore and Delores Costello but I can't find any other photos or information on it. It's supposedly on Summit(ridge?) Drive. http://ciajfk.com/barrymore/images/barry-home.jpg http://ciajfk.com/barrymore/fr_index...more/john.html Mostly the couple lived at 454 South Windsor Boulevard, Los Angeles: http://blog.allanellenberger.com/wp-...more-house.jpghttp://allanellenberger.com/category...y-real-estate/ What's this place at 1301 Summitridge Dr. called the "Barrymore Mansion" at this geeky Manson Family website?: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pGU8iNY0Gr...400/summit.jpg http://www.eviliz.com/2011/08/barrymore-mansion.html |
I highly doubt movie studios are allowed arsenals now-a-days.
Paramount Studios 1939 http://imageshack.us/a/img829/2402/mfjv.jpg ebay Have a great Fourth of July everyone! __ |
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There are a slew of other unconfirmed addresses for John Barrymore. Remember, the operative word is - UNCONFIRMED. As a wild guess - the postcard of the chemosphere'esq roof line probably depicts Tower Road. Tower has been associated with a many celebrities, most of whom could rehab such premises to their liking. Of course the other addresses in the Hills, e.g., Temple Hill, Beverly Grove, Bellagio and Outpost could easily have accommodated the post card structure. I now wonder about the residence below that looks like it sat or sits in the "flats" of Hollywood - where ever that may be. :shrug: 9941 Tower Lane, BH ('20s and 30s) 9897 Tower Road // 'Bella Vista' Barrymore estate, aka "6 Tower Road", BH 9946 Beverly Grove Drive, Beverly Hills, California ('40s) 1301 Summitridge Drive, BH aka listed as Belfast Drive ('30s) 1301 Belfast Drive, LA 11000 Bellagio Place 11300 Bellagio 2201 Outpost Drive, LA ('30s) 605 S. Irving Blvd (Hancock Park) aka the Getty House 8152 Sunset Blvd.- (Garden of Allah) 2000 N Fuller Ave ('50s) 7021 Hollywood Blvd. (Garden Court Apts.) 6525 W. Sunset Blvd. (Hollywood Athletic Club) 6147 Temple Hill Drive, LA 3400 Wilshire Blvd (The Ambassador Hotel ) and 454 S. Windsor Blvd. :previous: http://www.image-archeology.com/Home..._Calif_A83.jpghttp://www.image-archeology.com/Home..._Calif_A83.jpg http://www.image-archeology.com/Resi...fornia_825.jpghttp://www.image-archeology.com/Resi...fornia_825.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Pmjd5_C6-M...+Stars+Map.jpghttp://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=11274 |
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Thanks for the Tom Mix-follow-up. I tried looking at some of TM's associated properties with the idea that each probably might have had to accommodate Tony or some of his equine friends. I can visualize one or two animals grazing the front '40 on Carlton Way. Went to Golden Gate Ave, but can you confirm that the address was "614" rather than the previously reported "1614?" I don't have access to the 1918 directory. The 1915 lists a "TE" Mix as a Producer with the Selig Polyscope Co., in Glendale. http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...ix&submit=Find Tom's middle name was first Hezikiah, yet Wiki explains Tom enlisted in the Army as Thomas "Edwin" Mix, and that Tom ultimately went AWOL. IF this were true, wonder what effort, if any, the Army went to find him. :rolleyes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Mix A few other "unconfirmed" addresses "associated" with Mix: 836 W. 66th Street., LA 3456 Floyd Terrace, LA 2459 Teviot Street, LA and 4040 Stansbury Ave., Sherman Oaks (http://movielanddirectory.com/star.cfm?star=58665 ) |
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Gozilla-- I mistyped. I looked again at the 1918 city directory to be sure--Mix was at 1614 Golden Gate Ave, not 614. Sorry about that. |
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Thanks, Godzilla but the truth is I'm more interested in the house at this point that I am in John Barrymore. I love that end octagonal room or deck with the view. |
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Bella Vista & Barrymore
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[QUOTE=CityBoyDoug;6186324]Bella Vista. Much of this home and the property in general has been extensively remodeled. Here is a view from Beverly Grove Drive and Tower Grove Drive....[if this is the same house].
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psa780c1a8.jpg GSV That's it! Thanks, CBD! Bella Vista. "Former hilltop location of movie legend John Barrymore's "Bella Vista". Purchased from King Vidor (snip) 1927. In 1996 ex husband of Barabra Streisand director John Peters demolished most of the estate." http://wikimapia.org/15893715/Bella-...rrymore-former It looks as though it's been much expanded but in the same style with the octagonal theme repeated once more or the deck was moved from it's original location. The larger house next door behind copies the theme. 34°5'46"N 118°25'27"W See it in crude 3D using Google Earth. Gotta love this forum.... It's confusing though... Some people are calling this Bella Vista: http://www.katharinehepburntheater.o...re-300x181.jpg It doesn't look the same to me. http://www.katharinehepburntheater.o...rymore-estate/ |
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:shrug: I don't believe they are the same "beautiful views" and am convinced the home pictured was not the home with the view. But confusion is bound to occur, even if it is unintentional. Vidor owned several properties. Addresses and streets have been renamed and renumbered. Stories get mixed up with "possible" facts which is one of the reasons I find the Butterfields-Barrymore association as interesting as several other unconfirmed stories about Barrymore in what is now West Hollywood*. More grist for the mill here (including reference to Tom Mix!): http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8043 Notice John Gilbert's home and its interesting barrel-tiled roof line. And the "tower" above the property. ;) The map is dated '26. Barrymore (John) did not make the list. (Maybe he was using Lionel's spare bedroom). http://jpg1.lapl.org/maps/lg//MAP_0051.jpg http://jpg1.lapl.org/maps/lg//MAP_0052.jpghttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8043 (*The usual sources Ms. Streisand being married twice, but not to Mr. Peters. :shrug: ) |
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That Beverly Hills info was excellent. Here's something else I came across but you've no doubt seen it already: Early Beverly Hills |
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I took a bunch of pictures of the current abandoned roadway of Double Bow Knot Blvd this morning, but had to go visit some cousins in Montecito for the holiday and don't have the right USB-miniport cable with me. I'll post them this weekend after I get home. The 1924 USGS topo I found has a lot of interesting information about the development of roads in Lookout Mountain Park and Laurel Canyon in general. I have also found articles from the LA Express and the LA Examiner on the brushfire that consumed the Lookout Mountain Inn on October 26, 1918, to supplement the article from the LA Times 3940dxer already posted around page 325 or so. They provide some interesting sidelights on the fire, and I will post them when I get the chance. |
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