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^Denver's recent Union Station upgrade is pretty impressive.
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ARTIC Station in Anaheim the MMPT in Atlanta...on and on |
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also with new TriRail & Amtrak should be open anyday now can someone post a picture from the new wiki map update ??? of the MIA train station google has new map updates .... |
For anyone who believes FECI isn't serious about getting AAF off the ground...
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AAF Rider and Ticket Data Revealed
According to the linked Palm Beach Post article, it will cost $23.77 for a one-way ticket between DT West Palm Beach and DT Miami (71 miles) when the passenger rail service opens in 2016. A business class ticket will run $36.60. The Miami station will cost $150 million. Fort Lauderdale's station will cost $30 million and West Palm Beach's will cost $29 million. It's estimated that 43% of passengers will be leisure, 27% personal travel, and 30% business travel. Tickets will make up 75% of revenue by 2019. Total revenue for that year is projected to be $92.4 million. http://realtime.blog.palmbeachpost.c...ata-and-costs/ |
Researching this project, I came across this article:
'All Aboard Florida' President Mike Reininger Goes One-On-One With CBS 12 To Address Local Concerns http://www.cbs12.com/news/top-storie...id_17001.shtml Which contains this video: Which bears this description by Mike Reininger: Quote:
Which brings me to my question: What kind of train do they plan on operating? I have no idea what kind of train they are using in the video. I was expecting to see a train looking more like this: http://www.cbs12.com/news/top-storie...RIDA_17001.jpg Which is basically Amtrak California equipment with a more interesting paint job. And if that is the equipment they plan on using, why did they come up with this fancy animation instead of grabbing footage of the Surfliners in action? That wouldn't be hard. Maybe I'm just hoping they'll be using sleek streamlined equipment like in the video. It will certainly look better in the Miami station than standard US passenger stock. |
crazy that we don't know if this will get built.
I think it will and quickly but a bunch of locals and mayors are against it...... tri-rail is very fast, cant wait till the new airport station opens. When it opens I predict riders go up 20% or more yet All-aboard will do great because of the downtown station locations. is there new news on the Orlando airport station? its getting built anyways because its a multi mode transportation station connecting to SunRail and that new Monorail to the convention center. |
also the Miami Worldcenter shoping mall is crazy nice.
I saw a picture of a spiral stadium style walkway that connects the Allaboard Miami station to the convention center hotel |
Financing Complete-All Aboard Florida Will Begin Construction Immediately
http://www.exmiami.org/index.php/fin...n-immediately/ :cheers: |
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AFAIK, AAF has not said much about the rolling stock they plan to buy. They may still be in negotiations with potential vendors on which equipment they will buy. But it will be coach cars or trainsets that support high level platforms for level boarding. Maybe AAF is looking at DMU trainsets, but if not, then my guess is on diesel locomotives that the choices are either the EMD F-125 or the Siemens Charger which won the CA and Mid-west locomotive contract a few months ago. |
How can they build high-level platforms given the heavy volume of double-stack containers on FEC's tracks? Isn't there a clearance issue?
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The entire set of Environmental Assessment documents for the WPB to Miami segment that were filed with the FRA and the FRA FONSI response are available on the FRA website in the eLibrary section. Do a search for "All Aboard Florida" and the documents show up. Or use this link. Feel free to read the EA and the appendices on the Conceptual Station Plans and the proposed track charts. Might be something in there about bypass/guantlet tracks. Or the FEC is not concerned about wide loads on their line. |
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This is one of the California Stations that are dependent on the California HSR being built. Outside of that, the Station has nothing special other than the glorious glass and steel cover. What sets the similarly "in the future" Miami Station apart is that the Station is downtown; and, like Anaheim, has three different sets of through tracks* (neither the FEC or the Metroline terminate (dead end) at the station. However, the station is smack downtown in a vigorous part of town and is associated with a Japanese style build out around the station. Thousands will work, and, hotel guests will stay, ABOVE the rail station. This type of design was created in Japan, where for generations multi through line stations had huge stores built within 100 meters walking distance, office towers and entertainment on top of stations, and, shopping malls built along station passageways. (I forgot to include the Union Station Project, in LA. If they build it out as dreamed, it would be the greatest station built in the US since the 1930s.) *Including Metrolink. So there would be the FEC heavy rail line, the Commuter line, and, Metrolink. |
yes the Miami All Aboard will be nice and very busy
don't forget that the Fort Lauderdale Station will also connect with the Wave Train. Palm Beach Post say that the All Aboard is also going to Jacksonville sooner than thought....... if they start buying the vacant land around the Jacksonville Train Station that would be WOW. |
I was told by a credible source a year ago that AAF had made contact inquiring about the future of the old Jax terminal and the publicly owned land surrounding it. I was also in a meeting in Daytona Beach, earlier this month, where city officials/community leaders were being encouraged to start lobbying for a station of their own.
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oh Daytona Beach is a good place
wonder if the locals there will protest it like in palm beach. probably not |
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the sun sentinel has a article about the
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^Some are of the belief that he advised killing HSR between Tampa and Orlando for the benefit of the rail project proposed by the railroad company he was also getting a check from.
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Any news about Tri-Rail expansion lately? Did they extend service to Jupiter or Stuart?
Here is the press release from Tri-Rail. http://www.miamitodaynews.com/2014/0...commuter-rail/ |
so the Ft Lauderdale station looks like the Miami station just smaller.
I like the angle triangle stuff and all the glass. ANY NEWS ON THE WAVE TRAIN. where is the skyscraper page for info on the wave train. |
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Additionally, I would like to point out that neither the FHSR project nor AAF plan to go to Jacksonville soon. |
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And I wouldn't make any bets about AAF not planning to go to Jacksonville soon. It will be sooner than anyone thinks. |
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Do you have any evidence about the advisor or governor receiving any illegal payments or illegal favors from FEC or AAF? Now, that would be corruption. |
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That is saying a lot. but people with half a brain knew that before he was elected. his election was bad luck on the democrats side. also Jacksonville & Daytona seem like a really good idea people will take the train to Orlando and then fly Out/In its a plus/plus for the airport ANY news on the Orlando Station/Garage? |
Rail's plan means traffic changes ahead
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^^^ That is one cool looking station.
I see 1 high-level island platform with two station tracks and - is that a third track I see on the far side? Is that how freight trains are going to get around the high platform? I like that the V's are continuing from the Miami station. I like the branding, and I think this passenger service 'gets' branding better than any other train operators in North America. Also, I know the company name is All Aboard Florida, but I thought the train service would be called something else, as 'I took the All Aboard Florida to Miami the other day' just doesn't work. It would be cool if they named the train service after something beginning with 'V' to go along with their station designs. |
Agreed. For a new rail passenger service that attempts to be at once modern, efficient and effective, the name All Aboard Florida is certainly hokey and gratingly nostalgic.
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If you're visiting a friend in another city and he asks you how you got there, you don't tell him the airline you flew on or the interstate you took. |
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is there more pics of the Ft Lauderdale station?
can you post a link to better/more pics I know its a small building..... how about the Miami station - how much retail does it have? |
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http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/gallery/53151 :cheers: |
^Nice...
I always figured they would give the service itself a name in time, and that "All Aboard Florida" was just some retarded name for the construction project. Maybe the "Orange Express" or something. |
What happened the NW 2nd Ave & NW 2nd St? The county bus does not go through on NW 2nd St? Is that no longer?
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the palm beach post says that AAF just
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West Palm Beach Station
This is All Aboard Florida's West Palm Beach Station Design
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Monday, July 21, 2014 http://miami.curbed.com/archives/201...ion-design.php |
I like SOM's designs of all of the stations, but I've always been a fan of most of their work.
Can't wait to see the design of the Orlando station with the massive adjacent parking garage, SunRail connection, people-mover connection to the terminal and the possible hint to the beginnings of the new South Terminal complex. |
Downtown Miami Rail Station Approved, Groundbreaking Set For September
County commissioners unanimously approved All Aboard Florida’s plan to build a rail terminal in downtown Miami at a zoning hearing last week.
Jose Gonzalez, a representative of the rail company, told commissioners that groundbreaking for the station is set for September. Site work at the project will begin in August, leading to the loss of hundreds of parking spaces currently on the site. The hearing lasted just ten minutes, and mostly consisted of commissioners showering praise on All Aboard Florida. Commissioners were invited to attend the formal groundbreaking ceremony. City of Miami officials were also granted a say in the design, and joined county staff in granting unanimous approval. The first phase of construction will cost $150 million and include mostly station and retail space. Eventually, the project could include office, hotel and residential use. At issue: While Miami-Dade Transit wanted developers to commit to building a pedestrian overpass connecting the future rail station to the existing Metrorail Government Center station, All Aboard Florida wanted to work out the logistics and feasibility of an overpass down the road. “We want the same goal.… But you are telling me ‘Now. You have to commit this way,’” All Aboard Florida’s Jose Gonzalez told the committee. “That’s where I think you guys are overreaching.” Albert Hernandez of Miami-Dade Transit countered that such an overpass is feasible and would be needed early on once All Aboard Florida begins running trains. In the end, the parties settled on a mandate calling for an “elevated pedestrian connection” built in the first phase of the station’s development as long as other agencies OK such an overpass. http://www.exmiami.org/index.php/dow...set-september/ |
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saw a AAF tv commercial..
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don't remember what channel I was watching and didn't see the first half, only the end with a large All Aboard Florida logo I watch way to much tv and usually don't pay any attention to commercials. |
saw the TV commercial again..
channel 42 msnbc Comcast cable very nice and to the point somehow I think Rick Scott is gonna screw this thing up. |
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