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ethereal_reality Oct 19, 2012 11:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by westcork (Post 5872729)
This makes me wonder how the city skyline would have evolved had their been a river/lake with actual water year round.
There might now be a concentration of river front skyscrapers Starting at 9th street.
I agree westcork. The river would have attracted countless speculative ventures.
Dreams were BIG before the crash.

http://imageshack.us/a/img208/9383/l...atimes1926.jpg
Los Angeles Times-1926

GaylordWilshire Oct 20, 2012 12:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5872703)

Looks like Fiesta Ware was also part of the theme...



Quote:
Originally Posted by Earl Boebert (Post 5872720)
Well, more like sitting on the ground today -- if you look at the rightmost window you'll see that the flaps are down.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5872736)
Curtains and leg room! This has got to be first class! The good old days!:yes:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-n...2520AM.bmp.jpgMel Lawrence

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-z...2520AM.bmp.jpgJim Doner

Those passengers would have been sitting on a DC-6B... here are two of Western's on the ground at LAX. First class on props was generally at the rear, away from the noise and vibration of the engines. As for curtains--they were used on props in both coach and first class--although the DC8 jet used them on earlier models, well into the '60s.

rcarlton Oct 20, 2012 2:36 PM
This post got me looking for the Carlton Apartments which can be seen today:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8465/8...323e31b2_b.jpg

Not sure when this building was constructed. 528 Union Drive, Los Angeles.

rcarlton Oct 20, 2012 4:52 PM
View 1: exterior view of Nelson's Motor Service, a small auto repair shop. View 2: exterior view of a small garage, possibly used for storing automotive supplies. Photo dated: May 2, 1929. No address.
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics43/00056302.jpgLAPL

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics43/00056300.jpgLAPL
Group photo of the men in their working overalls, who work at Nelson's Motor Service, a small auto repair shop. Photo dated: May 2, 1929.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics43/00056301.jpgLAPL
Portrait of Nelson, owner of Nelson's Motor Service. Portrait of Nelson's stylishly-dressed wife. Photo dated: May 2, 1929.

Auto repair:
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics46/00057705.jpgLAPL
The Nelson Motor Service, an auto repair garage. A mechanic gives the engine a motor x-ray. Photo dated: June 1, 1929.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics46/00057707.jpgLAPL
Testing on an engine is done with a leak micrometer.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics46/00057706.jpgLAPL
Brakes are tested on an automobile.

rcarlton Oct 20, 2012 6:06 PM
Exterior view of Andy Gump's Dump, a cafe with a figure of him on the sign, in 1920.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics45/00042110.jpgLAPL

rcarlton Oct 20, 2012 6:14 PM
Exterior view of the Sphinx Realty Company, in the shape of a sphinx, located at 537 North Fairfax Avenue, surrounded by signs listing properties for sale.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics45/00042112.jpgLAPL

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics45/00042113.jpgLAPL
Beautiful five bedroom home, $6,750; Six room corner stucco near here, $7,200; Seven room stucco, $7,650; Corner near here, $2,500. (1920)

ethereal_reality Oct 20, 2012 6:18 PM
Here are a couple Western Airlines commercials, both touting their 'champagne flights'.

This first commercial is from the late 1950s, the same time period of the 'Fiesta Flight' pc.
Not only does the animated bird/stewardess serve the passenger/bird champagne she lights his cigarette as well.
How times have changed. :)

http://imageshack.us/a/img443/2598/aabw2.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s5PIJ9eZPc





In this later commercial the stewardess serves champagne/punch by dipping into a punch bowl
festooned with flowers and enveloped in a cloud of dry ice/liquid nitrogen. lol

http://imageshack.us/a/img837/9233/aabwc.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kNB0gkwI8E

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GaylordWilshire Oct 20, 2012 6:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5873341)
View 1: exterior view of Nelson's Motor Service, a small auto repair shop. View 2: exterior view of a small garage, possibly used for storing automotive supplies. Photo dated: May 2, 1929. No address.
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics43/00056302.jpgLAPL

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics43/00056300.jpgLAPL
Group photo of the men in their working overalls, who work at Nelson's Motor Service, a small auto repair shop. Photo dated: May 2, 1929.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics43/00056301.jpgLAPL
Portrait of Nelson, owner of Nelson's Motor Service. Portrait of Nelson's stylishly-dressed wife. Photo dated: May 2, 1929.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-c...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle SV

Nelson's building is still there: 4959 Santa Monica Blvd


Martin P. Nelson was manager, his wife Elgia the president/treasurer... in 1929 they lived nearby with their son and daughter at 1169 N. Berendo:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-r...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle SV


PS I think the man in the middle of the third photo is trying to make off with a radiator hose.

ethereal_reality Oct 20, 2012 6:50 PM
radiator hose?....where....I don't see a......OHHHH, now I see it. ;)

ethereal_reality Oct 20, 2012 11:21 PM
This eclectic building hasn't appeared on 'noirish Los Angeles'. (I searched)

Nelson Flats and Nelson's Candy Factory located at 513-519 E. 4th Street.

http://imageshack.us/a/img248/380/aabnelson.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...view/CHS-32442

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ethereal_reality Oct 20, 2012 11:40 PM
Security-First National Bank at 7th and Witmer.

http://imageshack.us/a/img853/4155/a...itmerfoto1.jpg
ebay


The bank building today. Why would someone remove the pediment over the doorway?

http://imageshack.us/a/img594/2071/a...tmertoday1.jpg
google street view







http://imageshack.us/a/img94/3462/aa...witmerfoto.jpg
ebay

..and today. Just a note: This building is across the street from the historic Mayfair Hotel.

http://imageshack.us/a/img42/7639/aa...itmertoday.jpg
google street view

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ethereal_reality Oct 21, 2012 12:04 AM
L.A. First National Bank at Jefferson and Arlington.

http://imageshack.us/a/img43/51/aaba...onarlingto.jpg
ebay



http://imageshack.us/a/img38/51/aaba...onarlingto.jpg
ebay



Luckily, this little jewel of a building is still in good shape. The new fence makes me think it might be on an historical/architectural list.
Does anyone know?

http://imageshack.us/a/img194/51/aab...onarlingto.jpg
google street view




http://imageshack.us/a/img155/51/aab...onarlingto.jpg
google street view





A vintage view of the interior. I wish I had a clearer image of the lighting fixtures.

http://imageshack.us/a/img208/51/aab...onarlingto.jpg
ebay

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Lwize Oct 21, 2012 12:39 AM
Has it been determined if 500 pages is the limit for this thread?

ethereal_reality Oct 21, 2012 3:45 AM
I've heard nothing of the sort.
There are several threads that go beyond two million views. (for an example see the Chicago thread below)

http://imageshack.us/a/img99/7513/aabchgo.jpg

'noirish Los Angeles' is one of the most popular threads on skyscraperpage.com
I can't understand why it would be cut off.

All that said and done, if it is archived I will simply start a new thread...'noirish Los Angeles II'.
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Those Who Squirm! Oct 21, 2012 5:26 AM
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Originally Posted by malumot (Post 5124646)
Recent posts - The Minnewaska, Broad, sterile cityscapes......

The problem, as I see it, is that after The War the smarty pants urban planners got their way and ruined the organic way that make cities become what they are.

One example - plazas. Just about every post-1960 skyscraper is surrounded by some useless, unvisited plaza. The intent, of course, was to reduce the mass of the building and to promote social interaction. You have a one-acre site? Your building's footprint can be no more than 40% of that, let's say. The rest must be given over to "public space" and the inevitably insipid "public art". How many public space areas on Bunker Hill do YOU know that you would consider lively places of interaction? It's a short list. The steps at US Bank Tower are kind of cool. Beyond that I'm drawing a blank.

There was social interaction in the past of course, when buildings like the Richfield were built cheek by jowl. It just spilled onto the sidewalks. (Take a walk down present-day Broadway to see what I mean). Planner-types HATED this. They wanted the suburban office-park look. The Suburban office park model CAN work - in the suburbs. Not downtown.

What we got was the worst of both worlds.

This is not limited to LA of course. My least-favored part of Manhattan is centered on 6th Avenue Midtown. Huge skyscrapers surrounded by boundless prairies of plazas. This is New York? It could just as well be Anycity, USA.
Somehow, though, it seems to be the worst here in L.A. The suburban aesthetic was imposed not only visually, but also, in a way, morally. By the 1960s, I don't think anyone would have actually owned up to it, but I suspect that above all things they didn't want rows and rows of small shops and other businesses, because someone might be selling something that was considered politically dangerous like Marxist literature, or otherwise incongruent with the squeaky clean image that was desired. Bars and nightclubs were also beyond the pale; I may have mentioned it already but it's hard to believe now that La Golondrina and El Paseo Inn were nightclubs in addition to being restaurants, prior to the depopulation of the neighborhood.

Those Who Squirm! Oct 21, 2012 5:43 AM
Old Chinatown
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5130795)
those are great images of ferguson alley E_R. the 1st one is looking east towards alameda from the intersection of Calle de los negros. i found this image of jerry's joynt looking down calle de los negros
With regard to Old Chinatown, anyone wanting an aural depiction of this neighborhood can do worse than checking out "The Opium Den", an episode of Calling All Cars produced in 1935. It deals with the closing down of, you guessed it, an opium den still operating at that late date.

Be forewarned: the characterizations of the Chinese-Americans in the story are repugnant in their racism; yet, if you can ignore that rest of it is interesting indeed. And if you're unfamiliar with Calling All Cars, it's pretty much a fifteen-years-earlier version of Dragnet.

Handsome Stranger Oct 21, 2012 6:20 AM
Here's a link to a fascinating (if somewhat depressing) short video about the legendary Garden of Allah apartments at Sunset and Crescent Heights. It's really just a radio documentary accompanied by a series of stills, yet it yields an unexpected surprise about one small bit of the apartment complex that still remains, hidden from view.

Garden of Allah - West Hollywood - Now and Then

GaylordWilshire Oct 21, 2012 1:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5873719)
L.A. First National Bank at Jefferson and Arlington.

http://imageshack.us/a/img43/51/aaba...onarlingto.jpg
ebay

http://imageshack.us/a/img38/51/aaba...onarlingto.jpg
ebay

Luckily, this little jewel of a building is still in good shape. The new fence makes me think it might be on an historical/architectural list.
Does anyone know?

http://imageshack.us/a/img194/51/aab...onarlingto.jpg
google street view

http://imageshack.us/a/img155/51/aab...onarlingto.jpg
google street view

A vintage view of the interior. I wish I had a clearer image of the lighting fixtures.

http://imageshack.us/a/img208/51/aab...onarlingto.jpg
ebay

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https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Y...2520AM.bmp.jpg Los Angeles Times July 1, 1928


This didn't take long:

http://imageshack.us/a/img94/9274/lafirstnatl1rev.jpg Los Angeles Times December 20, 1928


PS I don't see that it has been added to the list of Historic-Cultural Monuments

rcarlton Oct 21, 2012 1:59 PM
Used the search function to see if anyone had posted much on the Los Angeles Herald Examiner building, came up with nothing.
http://jpg2.lapl.org/spnb1/00017095.jpgLAPL
Looking south at the front and side of the Los Angeles Herald Examiner building, located at 1111 South Broadway. It is historical landmark #178, designated on August 17, 1977. It is in mission revival style, with colorful domes, tile roofs, white walls and arched openings. Julia Morgan designed the building, which was constructed between 1912 and 1915.

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics32/00065686.jpgLAPL
Exterior view of the Examiner newspaper building on November 8, 1937, taken from a rooftop across the street. It is located at 1111 South Broadway and was designed by architect Julia Morgan.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00097/00097707.jpgLAPL
A woman walks down Broadway, which is lined with parked cars even though there are two "auto parks" across the street from each other in this view looking north on Broadway towards Eleventh. "Examiner" signs are complete with eagles and flags on what was later called the Herald-Examiner Building. c1937.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics18/00018613.jpgLAPL
A group of men, some construction workers, posing in front of the Los Angeles Examiner Building being built. It opened in 1915. A. Dellamore was the plumbing contractor, and a number of plumbing pieces are seen in front of the group. Alta Planing Mill Company was the contractor.

Today:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8335/8...7818ae6c_b.jpg

BrandonJXN Oct 21, 2012 3:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5873216)
This post got me looking for the Carlton Apartments which can be seen today:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8465/8...323e31b2_b.jpg

Not sure when this building was constructed. 528 Union Drive, Los Angeles.
I live on this block! A little further up the hill (433 Union Drive) I walk past this building every day.


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