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Myself included. If Chicago wants to become Phoenix, fine. But I won't stay if it chooses that route, and I'm guessing it won't attract nearly as many people who know what good transit and good quality of life really is. For most people globally, being auto-dependent is not their idea of good quality of life. They may choose to own a car, but they don't want it to be their only option and most are smart enough to know that if they choose a single family home with a huge yard and low taxes, they will only be able to choose a car. There's a reason that software companies in the Bay Area are choosing more and more to be in the city of San Francisco and even ones that aren't are choosing to provide free private busing options for employees who choose to live in San Francisco. It's because a lot of knowledge workers prefer real urban life but even in high-tax Bay Area, you can't provide fast, efficient transit into low-density suburbs. Having transit-friendly suburban nodes is one thing, but trying to provide walk-to-transit service for the vast majority of suburbanites in the current Chicagoland built environment is ridiculously implausible. The region needs to recognize that and focus transit-oriented development near existing transit, and double-down on providing better, more comprehensive transit in areas where transit-friendly users are already locating. And, yes, that means more subways in/near the Central Area, and no more extensions further and further into low-density suburbs. |
A Modest Transit Proposal: Put The Public In Public Transit
here is a series i missed:
By Natasha Julius http://www.beachwoodreporter.com/pol...oposal_put.php contains many of the ideas already discussed here, but a few twists if anyone already posted, i apologize in advance |
Harrison Station Rehab
Finally, an entrance canopy that's not some lame historic thing! Right in front of Jones HS, this is a huge improvement. It's probably cheaper, too... looks like it can be built in the field instead of trucked in. http://i.imgur.com/Svz0wEn.jpg Tile Patterns: http://i.imgur.com/dNt89Hd.jpg |
I'm pleased to have an alternative to the fake Edwardian stuff they did on State and Dearborn, but I'm not sure this is the answer. There's something just clunky enough about it to make me suspect in-house design at CTA or CDOT.
My biggest concern, as always, is erasing all traces of the rather handsome PWA Moderne of the original subway mezzanines. I wish they could simply be restored rather than having to be tarted up as something else. |
Looking at the opening day photos of the old subway stations, they were quite classy looking. Probably could have still looked good if they were taken care of or not modified.
I'm not a fan of the CTA using tile. It's too much maintenance since it gets tagged so easily. And what about water damage? They should consider using granite rain screens to allow water to drain out behind the face panel. The stone would last forever and it can't easily be damaged from vandalism. Using standoff glass on that enclosure was smart though as it's easy to maintain. |
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None of the subway renovations thus far have had great interiors. North/Clybourn comes the closest, mainly because it stayed pretty neutral. The original structural glass/vitrolite interiors were fantastic but not well-suited to changing requirements over the years. CTA's massive assistant booths, turnstiles, and metal fences don't help either... sight lines are terrible in most of the mezzanines. |
I don't think anything on the interior at North/Clybourn was actually replaced except the ceiling and lighting. The tile walls were just cleaned or—in some places—painted (!).
Its ironic to mention sightlines, because of the innovative way the original mezzanines were designed with curved walls and obtuse angles precisely so there would be no hiding places. |
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Re the Harrison station rehab: http://www.transitchicago.com/harrisonrehab/
That page says the back entrance on Polk won't be redone with the modern red/white design, it'll just be maintained. Good news to me, the Harrison station is probably the dumpiest underground station in the downtown area -- except maybe for Lasalle blue line. I doubt it'll be turned into a pristine unterstraße oasis, but any improvement would be welcome. |
Nothing can ever beat the Lasalle Blue Line station.
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^I think you mean Wells & Lake, and I agree it's nice.
http://www.ktransit.com/transit/NAme...-090111-01.jpg |
Well I meant more of the interior of the station before they fixed the place a bit. It originally looked like the stereotypical grimy, shady subway station.
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OK, now I'm confused. What subway station are you talking about?
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I was talking about the Lasalle Blue Line station. I don't know what the Wells/Lake entrance looks like on the inside, maybe it is more shady than Lasalle and I just didn't know it. Sorry for confusing you there.
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weird place to put the LED as youre going to have people pausing on the stairs to get updates. seems it would make more sense to place it outside the entrance. |
The display is big enough to read while in motion—and all that glass means you don't even have to be head-on. The benefit is to all the people who can avoid running down the stairs fearing they'll miss the train.
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The other subway stations they've added screens to, there's screens on both sides -- so you could see the approaching times as you come toward the stairs from either direction.
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Yeah, that's probably what will happen here. I really hope these screens don't display ads, or people WILL pause on the stairs
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People stand around on the stairs at Chicago Av RL for no reason. The nightmare has come true!
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CTA narrows possible routes for proposed CTA Red Line expansion
http://www.suntimes.com/26869554-418...l#.U04zAVVdX9Q
BY FRAN SPIELMAN AND ROSALIND ROSSI Staff Reporters April 15, 2014 10:04PM The 95th Street station is now the end of the Red Line. That station is due for a major renovation, and the CTA is looking at routes to extend the Red Line to 130th Street..... |
I still wish that the Gold Line on Transit Future featured to branches to show how redundant it is for the Red Line to extend alongside the Bishop Ford. I would much rather prefer it to extend alongside Halsted.
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$2 billion for 5 miles? why not just build it as a subway down Halsted?
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I would rather spend 2 billion on an Ashland subway or circle line.!
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Y O U All Elect them, and YOU'RE getting just what YOU deserve....... |
CTA to redo 4 North Side Red Line stations
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^^^^^^ Awesome news! I just wonder why they never want to somewhat enclose these platforms...its not like we live in a warm weather city, some sort of wind break would be nice! Albeit i am only going off the renders.
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Time to re-extend the green line to Stony Island.
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I kept thinking - didn't they just do this a few years ago!?!? Finally I went and re-read....and the Tribune posted....as a headliner article on their website....an article that's well over 2 years old. Talk about confusing people. |
So does this mean that the RPM project will be done in phases and once a phase receives funding, they will start construction for it immediately?
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We will then go on a field trip to Germany (paid by the taxpayers) to see how such things run in other countries, pay for more studies and plans, have some lengthy discussions about soil erosion, traffic impacts, and what percentage minority contractors to use, and then after about 10 years abandon the project altogether. Transit expansion in Chicago is a joke. A shitty, annoying, worthless, pitiful, miserable, expensive joke. It is a scam designed to pay consultants. Period. End of story. Just use & renovate what we already have (something that at least Rahm seems to be halfway decent at) because we ain't expanding the transit system--EVER. |
Should be titled "CTA moves to studying doing something", but at least they are putting a Brownline flyover on the radar. It also irks me that they used "el" instead of "L", but I digress:
CTA Moves to Unsnarl North Side el Tracks The Chicago Transit Authority is announcing tentative plans today to proceed with a long-awaited fix to unsnarl a mid-North Side rail junction that ties up hundreds of Red, Brown and Purple line trains a day. The agency, as part of a broader $1.3 billion program to rebuild some track and stations, also wants to build a build a bridge or bypass for the Brown Line where it crosses the Red and Purple line over Clark Street a couple of blocks south of Wrigley Field, sources familiar with the announcement are saying. The work is predicated on a full engineering study of the plan and obtaining a source for the estimated $50 million to $75 million needed. But assuming that occurs, the project is likely to finally get a green light decades after CTA first began considering it. Roughly 850 trains pass through the crossing every work day, with southbound Red and Purple trains stopping every time a northbound Brown Line train needs to move through the so-called Clark Junction. Northbound Red and Purple trains also have to stop and wait if a northbound Brown line train is crossing in front of them. More Here: http://www.chicagobusiness.com/artic...side-el-tracks |
The subway option for this project was $2 billion yet they go with this inferior option. More windswept stations, more element exposed tracks.
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Just wait until the CTA sends out notices to all of the buildings that need to be purchased to straighten the Sheridan Redline stop. I wish they can extend the subway from North Avenue to Wilson. Think of all the new potential development when they remove the existing tracks? I am sure the surrounding property values would increase too.
When I attended an informational meeting years ago, most of the attendees complained about "potential cost overruns" with pursuing a subway option. Yes, there is risk, but run the numbers first. That is why financial models have sensitivity analysis. |
Renderings via Crains:
Flyover: http://www.chicagobusiness.com/apps/...20140417120501 New Platforms for the 4 rebuilt stations: http://www.chicagobusiness.com/apps/...20140417120501 http://www.chicagobusiness.com/artic...side-el-tracks |
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Also, as I've pointed out in the past, CTA doesn't always tear down buildings when it acquires them. This building at Armitage was acquired, shaved down in size, and the facade re-assembled. This stripmall at Diversey was acquired and shaved down. I expect CTA will do similar things for the flyover project. Some buildings have rear wings that will be demolished, while a few buildings might have to be torn down completely (like that condo building at School/Wilton. The effect on the street will be minimal. |
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Well, the Crains article pretty specifically says "demolish"
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Also, does anyone know what the status is of the Brown Line rehab south of Armitage/north of Merch Mart? I havent really seen any activity to indicate anything of real substance is happening...other than workers constantly walking up and down the tracks. Is there a timeline for when this is supposed to be completed?
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But I don't think it's too hard to see a near-term future where we don't have the pension issue hanging over our heads. Once that budget is no longer in crisis, adding the $500M (!) per year in Casino revenue--that's just the city's portion--goes a long way. If just one third of that was used to finance infrastructure bonds, my back-of-the-envelope calculation means we could afford $25B in transit infrastructure without any federal investment. That's everything on the wish list and a whole lot more. I'd be surprised if we don't see some big plans hatching in five years or so. |
CTA plans L overpass at Belmont to eliminate bottleneck
http://www.suntimes.com/26902197-761...l#.U1AxkVVdX9Q
BY ROSALIND ROSSI Transportation Reporter April 17, 2014 11:12AM The CTA plans on building a bypass north of the Belmont station to eliminate delays where the Red, Purple, and Brown lines intersect and trains must stand and wait for other trains to pass...... |
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We need to wait for CTA to do a detailed engineering study before they will know what gets torn down. 16 properties will be acquired but that doesn't mean the buildings on them get town down. |
I'm kind of confused where this flyover would actually go, could someone who understands draw a line on a map or something?
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This Curbed article has a decent schematic:
http://chicago.curbed.com/archives/2...roject-yet.php If the map is accurate, it appears some buildings just east and north of the Red Line at the split will need to go and some building north of the brown line just after the split. I checked streetview and it doesn't look like anything we would miss TOO much is in the path, but it's hard to know for sure. |
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