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BifRayRock Nov 17, 2012 7:30 PM

Recently discussed some street signage peculiarities near the Wilshire Brown Derby. Noticed this image, dated 1930, where there is a painted "WATCH TRAFFIC" warning on Wilshire. Assume this practice was short-lived as I don't recall seeing the warning in similar photos. Wonder whether this was a city-adopted traffic/pedestrian warning or something the Derby management employed on behalf of patrons skedaddling to the Ambassador?

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/160/38...b496a7ac_o.jpgFlickr

ethereal_reality Nov 17, 2012 8:19 PM

It's so great that you located Alice's house GW! -good job-

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GaylordWilshire Nov 17, 2012 9:19 PM

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/875...rncomplete.jpgCSP/OHP

1913 and 1951 Sanborn maps of the Hollywood High School campus...only two buildings survived the effects of the 1933 Long Beach
earthquake and still stand. The earliest of the two (ca. 1910) was originally the school's auditorium and later became the library,
which it remains today. This building is seen at the upper right corners of the maps above. (A new auditorium--the other remaining
pre-quake building--was built just north of the old in 1925 and is not visible on the map; its facade was last modernized in 1956.)

(Orange Drive was originally Orlando Avenue; also note that Sunset had been widened by 1951.)



http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/961...udit2nd900.jpgunknown
The auditorium/library as it originally appeared


http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7295/hhslibrary900.jpgThe Living New Deal
The library as altered in 1935


http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3486/hhstoday900.jpgGoogleSV
The library today. I'm glad we have what's survived, but regret that as with so much of the old architecture of Los Angeles, its
charms are marred by the parking lot, not mention the fencing and the dish and whatever kind of blasted tree that is at right.

Chuckaluck Nov 17, 2012 10:37 PM

Photo dated March 8, 1958. Stolen clothing recovered at 21219 South Figueroa. Photo depicts four individuals, including two police officers, the victim and the suspected perpetrator. The suspected perp seems right out of noir central casting. He likely went on to make several appearances on Perry Mason and The Untouchables;)
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...309-009~1?v=hrUSC Digital

Chuckaluck Nov 17, 2012 11:04 PM

Kings Market at 3500 Eagle Rock Blvd. 1939 (?) Seems clean, well stocked, prices are right, and no waiting!


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...-167-ISLA?v=hrUSC Digital

Graybeard Nov 17, 2012 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 5905071)
Photo dated March 8, 1958. Stolen clothing recovered at 21219 South Figueroa. Photo depicts five individuals, including two police officers, the victim and the suspected perpetrator. The suspected perp seems right out of noir central casting. He likely went on to make several appearances on Perry Mason and The Untouchables;)
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...309-009~1?v=hrUSC Digital

That number equals 4 in Texas...Just sayin'.:blink:

Chuckaluck Nov 17, 2012 11:32 PM

Forgive my ignorance, but is it possible to copy and post images from Google Earth by a link to the source, or must you download the image to an separate photo album account? If its from the source, how - please?:shrug:

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For example, here is a 1958-photo of flooding at an apartment complex located at 4217 Lockwood Ave., 90029.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...299-003~1?v=hrUSC Digital

Google street view for 4217 Lockwood offers a similar view of the same complex. Here is the thumbnail. How to capture the larger version of image and post?
http://cbk1.google.com/cbk?output=th...=1&w=300&h=118

Chuckaluck Nov 17, 2012 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graybeard (Post 5905096)
That number equals 4 in Texas...Just sayin'.:blink:

You got me before I got sidetracked and had a chance to correct. I have filed an amended post. Besides, rumor has it that the victim eats enough for two people!:koko:

tovangar2 Nov 17, 2012 11:59 PM

MGM's Washington Row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5903330)

I wanted to add a note about Washington Row (the north side of which is shown in both photos above), the extremely narrow building that runs west from MGM's old main gate for two blocks . It was built in 1918 1916, at the same time as the main gate by Thomas Ince for his Triangle Studios. Washington Row contains 200 rooms, each with an outside door and a couple of windows on the south front. Those on the ground floor open to a covered walkway while the rooms on the upper deck open onto a balcony, also under cover.

The rooms have, at various times, been used for offices, dressing rooms and rooms for screenwriters. During Lorimar's time on the lot, many were in use as editing rooms. We used to feed the motley collection of semi-wild studio cats at the west end of Washington Row between it and the Garland Building.

There's a nifty tracking shot of the south side of Washington Row, when the whole building was used as dressing rooms, at the beginning of The MGM Studio Tour, 1925, Part 3 (0:34 - 1:12) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE-LdSXTaYY It's no longer possible to see the full sweep of the south side of Washington Row as the Tracy, Crawford, Hepburn and Loy Buildings were built to the south of it subsequent to 1925.

Chuckaluck Nov 18, 2012 12:03 AM

Not sure whether these photos, that include a glimpse of the Chickasaw (second photo) have been previously posted. Here they are anyway! Curious as to what connection there may have been to the Chickasaw Indian Nation, with roots in Alabama. Perhaps happenstance, but there is a Chickasaw Ave., in or near Eagle Rock.

To all who celebrate Thanksgiving, have a safe and happy one!

1913 Eastern view of 6th and Hill vicinity.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-5828?v=hrhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-5829?v=hrhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-5830?v=hrUSC Digital

ethereal_reality Nov 18, 2012 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 5905123)

How to capture the larger version of image and post?
http://cbk1.google.com/cbk?output=th...=1&w=300&h=118

When you have the large google earth image on your monitor hit the 'Print Screen' key (upper right hand side of your keyboard).

Then open your programs (lower left) and choose 'paint'. A blank 'paint' screen will come up.

Then hit two keys at once, the 'Ctrl' key and the V key.

The image you want to save will automatically appear on the blank 'paint' screen.
Right click your mouse and choose 'Copy to...

Pick where you want the image to be saved (pictures or documents)
Entered a title for your saved image and click save.

THe image will remain on your 'paint' page. When you go to close it
a box comes up and asks "do you want to save changes to".
Clink 'don't save' and the 'paint' screen will close.
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I'm not sure where I learned this method.
There are probably easier ways....but this is how I do it.
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ethereal_reality Nov 18, 2012 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 5905140)
I wanted to add a note about Washington Row (the north side of which is shown in both photos above), the extremely narrow building that runs west from MGM's old main gate for two blocks . It was built in 1918, at the same time as the main gate. Washington Row contains 200 rooms, each with an outside door. Those on the ground floor open to a covered walkway while the rooms on the upper deck open onto a balcony, also under cover.

Thanks for the information on Washington Row tovanger2. I naively thought the long line of offices simply abutted the exterior wall.
I didn't realize it was all one structure. That detail makes it that much more interesting.

below: As you pointed out, the Washington Row building is extremely narrow.

http://imageshack.us/a/img689/5660/aabrowmgm.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1353198918739





http://imageshack.us/a/img23/3598/aabrowwash.jpg
google street view







http://imageshack.us/a/img822/445/aabrowmgmaerial.jpg
google aerial

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Chuckaluck Nov 18, 2012 1:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5905163)
When you have the large google earth image on your monitor hit the 'Print Screen' key (upper right hand side of your keyboard).

Then open your programs (lower left) and choose 'paint'. A blank 'paint' screen will come up.
Then hit two keys at once, the 'Ctrl' key and the V key.
The image you want to save will automatically appear on the blank 'paint' screen.
Right click your mouse and choose 'Copy to...
Pick where you want the image to be saved (pictures or documents)
Entered a title for your saved image and click save.
THe image will remain on your 'paint' page. When you go to close it
a box comes up and asks "do you want to save changes to".
Clink 'don't save' and the 'paint' screen will close.
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I'm not sure where I learned this method.
There are probably easier ways....but this is how I do it.__

Thanks for the tutorial, (unaware of "control + v") . . . its the posting or uploading of the image which is the issue. Thought I had read somewhere . . . (Chickasaw Hotel Lobby Guest Rules?) . . . that it was possible to "grab" an image and post it without using a hosting service. This might be possible if this site hosted such a service. The forum's image posting guide confirms the need to use such a service. (Last time I ask room service for posting advice. Next time, the front desk!) http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=168165

Thanks again.

ethereal_reality Nov 18, 2012 1:36 AM

What the heck is going on at the corner of Washington Blvd. and Mentone Avenue?

http://imageshack.us/a/img842/2255/aabrowsat.jpg
google street view

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ethereal_reality Nov 18, 2012 1:40 AM

http://imageshack.us/a/img853/279/aa...03vintages.jpg
ebay

never heard of it.
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BifRayRock Nov 18, 2012 1:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5905230)

724 S Olive in 1915 http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...ch_doc=newbery

tovangar2 Nov 18, 2012 2:37 AM

Washington Row's addition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5905190)
Thanks for the information on Washington Row tovanger2. I naively thought the long line of south offices simply abutted the exterior wall.
I didn't realize it was all one structure. That detail makes it that much more interesting.

below: As you pointed out, the Washington Row building is extremely narrow.

http://imageshack.us/a/img689/5660/aabrowmgm.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1353198918739





http://imageshack.us/a/img23/3598/aabrowwash.jpg
google street view







http://imageshack.us/a/img822/445/aabrowmgmaerial.jpg
google aerial

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Yes, Washington Row must have one of the more unusual footprints in the annals of architecture.


Note too that an additional nine bays were added to Washington Row some time between 1918 (see photo below from your original post) and the 1935 shot above. The old terminus is still visible as a slight projection to the left (east) of the end of the present building.

http://imageshack.us/a/img42/7839/aabmgm1918usc.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1353038492210

One of the good things Sony did was restore Washington Row's original north-facing windows. They're in groups of six under pediments supported by Doric columns at two spots along the north facade. These had been boarded up or painted over by Lorimar's time. Sony has also installed 10 new, larger windows just to the west of the old Main Gate into what used to be the old Casting Office.

The very small window one can see in low in the second bay to the left of Washington Row's west end in the 1935 view still existed in Lorimar's day. It's now been removed as has the single window high on the narrow west facade.

I also appreciate Sony's installation of the wall, inspired by Claud Beelman's 1938 Thalberg Building, that surrounds what's left of the lot not already walled by Washington Row and the old Main Gate

tovangar2 Nov 18, 2012 3:04 AM

Dishes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5905225)
What the heck is going on at the corner of Washington Blvd. and Mentone Avenue?

http://imageshack.us/a/img842/2255/aabrowsat.jpg
google street view__

If I remember correctly (and was given the right info to begin with), the dishes exist to beam television programs made on the lot to the appropriate network HQ's in New York, who check them and then distribute them from there. I'm pretty sure the dishes were there in the Lorimar years (but my memory may be starting to go).

ProphetM Nov 18, 2012 3:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 5905207)
Thanks for the tutorial, (unaware of "control + v") . . . its the posting or uploading of the image which is the issue. Thought I had read somewhere . . . (Chickasaw Hotel Lobby Guest Rules?) . . . that it was possible to "grab" an image and post it without using a hosting service. This might be possible if this site hosted such a service. The forum's image posting guide confirms the need to use such a service. (Last time I ask room service for posting advice. Next time, the front desk!) http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=168165

Thanks again.

Yeah, you need to have hosting. Most forums are like that. Picasa is free, though. :)

Quick(ish) guide to uploading your own pics & screen caps with (and to) Picasa, assuming you have a PC....


Ctrl-V is the paste command, due to letter V's place on the keyboard in a line with X and C - Ctrl-X is cut and Ctrl-C is copy. 'Print Screen' copies an image of your screen to your computer's clipboard, the same place that most programs put stuff when you use the copy or cut command while editing documents, or web browsing, etc.

I use Picasa (the program) to organize my pictures. When I do a print screen while Picasa is running, it shows up automatically in a 'screen captures' folder. Then I can crop it down to eliminate stuff like menu and scroll bars, and upload it to the Picasa web site. Picasa is part of Google, and although the Picasa program now labels their upload button as 'Google+' instead of 'Picasa Web Albums', Google+ albums and Picasa Web Albums are actually the same location with two different addresses. So when visiting the pics with my browser, I just continue to use the Picasa URL at picasaweb.google.com. :haha:

If you have a Google account such as Gmail, you should easily be able to set up a Picasa account. Probably easiest to do it when installing the Picasa application. When uploading pictures, it allows you to upload the pics at a web sharing size of 2048 pixels wide, which doesn't count towards your free 1GB of storage. (I've got thousands of pictures uploaded, and am only using 3.7% due to some special pics that I uploaded at full size.) If your picture is already smaller than 2048px, choosing the web sharing size will have no effect. You pick an online album location for your upload - use an existing folder, or make a new one. Maximum size per online folder is 1000 pictures.

After uploading, the page for each photo lets you link to the photo page, or embed just the picture, with or without a link back to the album. It creates the URL for you on the fly based on the options you pick, and you just copy and paste it.

For example, for the picture below here's the link they create in the 'embed image' box, when I select 'image only' and thumbnail size:
Code:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SrRhcRWJGiI/UJ9GoSeUZQI/AAAAAAAAf_k/gtv9H7EF5ZU/s144/DSC03854.JPG
The part that says "/s144/" in the example above indicates the size of the largest dimension, in pixels. There's a drop-down menu to select this size and a few others. The biggest selectable size on the Picasa page is 800, but when you paste the link you can change that part to s1000, or s1200, or whatever size you want. If you change it to s0, it will post the picture at the original size that you uploaded it (such as the web-sharing size of 2048 pixels).

For this forum I typically use 1000 pixels, which comes out this size:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-S...0/DSC03854.JPG

I took this shot of some buildings most of us should be familiar with, at the end of October, from the observation deck of LA City Hall. 27th floor, fantastic views in all directions! The only drawback is that they aren't open on the weekends. :(

ethereal_reality Nov 18, 2012 3:42 AM

One of the other 1947 slayings.

http://imageshack.us/a/img40/1497/aafrenchmurder.jpg
found on ebay




reverse info.
http://imageshack.us/a/img42/159/aafrenchmurber1r.jpg

I believe some of this information on Jeanne French is incorrect.
Ms. French's personal history is an amalgam of several Jeanne French(s) that lived in the Southern California area.
Good luck to anyone who can distill the truth from all this misleading information.

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