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sopas ej Dec 17, 2021 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SAN Man (Post 9480065)
Urban SoCal is sorta not following the state mandate. Oceanside has now joined Coronado and El Cajon in not using any resources to enforce the CA mask mandate. They said if you want to report a violation call the County.

I've gone into a few businesses since 12/15, most are not enforcing masks. My barber, no masks. My local convenient store, no masks. In N Out, mask required sign on the door, but people ordering without masks and obviously you can't eat with a mask. My local Vons, masks, but numerous people not wearing masks. Mailed Christmas gifts at the local USPS and the mailmen had noses hanging out. When I got my booster shot pre mandate at Kaiser some of the nurses weren't wearing their masks correctly. Again, noses exposed.

I believe you're being San Diego County specific. Los Angeles County has had an indoor mask mandate since July that hasn't yet been lifted, so this statewide thing is not even a big deal for us. All of our restaurants have their staff wearing masks. In fact, I was weirded out when I went into Riverside County and San Bernardino County a few weeks ago and saw many people unmasked inside many businesses. Even in Orange County about a month ago, I was weirded out by seeing restaurant staff not even wearing masks.

SAN Man Dec 17, 2021 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 9480343)
I believe you're being San Diego County specific. Los Angeles County has had an indoor mask mandate since July that hasn't yet been lifted, so this statewide thing is not even a big deal for us. All of our restaurants have their staff wearing masks. In fact, I was weirded out when I went into Riverside County and San Bernardino County a few weeks ago and saw many people unmasked inside many businesses. Even in Orange County about a month ago, I was weirded out by seeing restaurant staff not even wearing masks.

Yes. That's SDC specific. I know LA County has been more stringent and they've had a mask mandate in place for months. It's pretty funny how different the mentality is between LAC and SDC even though we're so close together. With that said, SDC has a very high covid vaccination rate. I think we're up in the 80 percentile range.

the urban politician Dec 17, 2021 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by iheartthed (Post 9480339)
New York sets new record for positive cases in a single day:

Too much testing.

I don’t recall people waiting in long lines to be tested for any other virus. Ever. In history

It’s like a religion (Covid is).

C. Dec 18, 2021 1:49 AM

There goes back to work plans for the big financial institutions.

mrnyc Dec 18, 2021 2:09 PM

we’re immune after all!

outer limits the vaccine ending lol

https://youtu.be/vf_iZD8JDTs

MonkeyRonin Dec 18, 2021 2:31 PM

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Originally Posted by iheartthed (Post 9480339)
New York sets new record for positive cases in a single day:


The most important sentence in the article: "The old record for most reported cases in a single day was 19,942, when reported hospitalizations were on the brink of 9,000. Now, the number of people admitted is down by more than half."

JManc Dec 18, 2021 3:24 PM

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Originally Posted by C. (Post 9480438)
There goes back to work plans for the big financial institutions.

Tech too. I was supposed to go back to office in January but pushed back to at least July. It's ridiculous.

twister244 Dec 18, 2021 4:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JManc (Post 9480705)
Tech too. I was supposed to go back to office in January but pushed back to at least July. It's ridiculous.

All Omicron is doing is continuing to move the needle towards permanent remote work.

iheartthed Dec 18, 2021 4:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MonkeyRonin (Post 9480680)
The most important sentence in the article: "The old record for most reported cases in a single day was 19,942, when reported hospitalizations were on the brink of 9,000. Now, the number of people admitted is down by more than half."

I think we're a couple of weeks from knowing how hospitalizations will look here because of omicron, since the spread of omicron is happening insanely fast.

I've been back in the office for several months and never had direct contact with someone in the office who tested positive in that time. Then within a few days multiple coworkers that I had direct contact with tested positive. We're all vaccinated and are required to be fully vaccinated to enter the office.

So far all of the people I know that have tested positive are reporting mild symptoms, but these are all vaccinated people. Hopefully omicron is milder that previous variants for everyone, vaccinated or not.

JManc Dec 18, 2021 5:58 PM

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Originally Posted by twister244 (Post 9480734)
All Omicron is doing is continuing to move the needle towards permanent remote work.

In my case, that's not so bad, the job is based in the SF Bay Area and I'm in Houston...would save me thousands in rent. I was supposed move out there in January but now that's up in the air. But at some point, we're just going to have to accept Covid as a fact of life and get on with business as usual.

photoLith Dec 18, 2021 10:10 PM

^
That ain’t going to happen for a long time unfortunately as governments and the news keeps ratcheting the fear porn for rona.

SAN Man Dec 18, 2021 10:37 PM

I'm going to Cabo in February. The thought of taking a test 24 hours in advance of my US bound flight and potentially testing positive in Mexico, being forced to quarantine there for 7, 10, 14 days is scary. To bypass that, I bought tickets out of Tijuana. There won't be a need to take a test in Cabo because it's a Mexican domestic flight and then when you land, you walk across the border which doesn't have testing requirements in place.

And another reason, the tickets were about $700 cheaper flying in and out of Tijuana compared to SAN.

chris08876 Dec 21, 2021 3:44 AM

The idea is being floated that NYC may castrate its New Years Eve celebration.

:(

Keyword, "may".

Although there might not be a point. Same with closing schools. The peak is coming, the ones that aren't vaxxed will get it, and life will resume. By March, should be fine.

But any sort of restrictions will not stop this. A little late on that bandwagon.

Acajack Dec 21, 2021 3:49 AM

Impact: teens with not much to do decide to start painting rooms in the house.

10023 Dec 21, 2021 11:00 AM

Everyone is going to get Covid. Everyone. If you haven’t had it yet, you will. If you’ve had it already you’ll probably get it again soon enough. If you are vaccinated, you have nothing to worry about (even the unvaccinated usually have nothing to worry about).

Enough already.

There isn’t even a point to restrictions at this point. A strict March 2020 style lockdown can reduce transmission, for a few weeks, at huge cost, but when it’s lifted cases will just rise again. And more modest restrictions are just for show, and for government to look like it’s doing something. They’re doing to do something impossible, and it’s time to just let everyone get this one variant.

I’ve just returned to London for Christmas. It might be a short visit. If they go back into lockdown here, I’m having movers come and returning to the US permanently.


edit: what is shocking here, just from the airport and taxi through central London, is the sheer number of old people out and about. Not only are the demographic differences stark after being in a much younger US city for a couple weeks, but obviously the first step if there’s any concern about Omicron should be telling old people to stay out of shops and restaurants. It’s December 2020 all over again.

Crawford Dec 21, 2021 3:09 PM

I mean, there aren't a lot of people in South Florida "out and about" as regular pedestrians, of any age.

Yeah, some touristy areas like South Beach, a bit in Brickell and a few other nodes. London is a real city where people of all ages regularly walk, for daily tasks. Who in South Florida is walking for groceries?

mrnyc Dec 21, 2021 3:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 9482667)
Everyone is going to get Covid. Everyone. If you haven’t had it yet, you will. If you’ve had it already you’ll probably get it again soon enough. If you are vaccinated, you have nothing to worry about (even the unvaccinated usually have nothing to worry about).

Enough already.

There isn’t even a point to restrictions at this point. A strict March 2020 style lockdown can reduce transmission, for a few weeks, at huge cost, but when it’s lifted cases will just rise again. And more modest restrictions are just for show, and for government to look like it’s doing something. They’re doing to do something impossible, and it’s time to just let everyone get this one variant.

I’ve just returned to London for Christmas. It might be a short visit. If they go back into lockdown here, I’m having movers come and returning to the US permanently.


edit: what is shocking here, just from the airport and taxi through central London, is the sheer number of old people out and about. Not only are the demographic differences stark after being in a much younger US city for a couple weeks, but obviously the first step if there’s any concern about Omicron should be telling old people to stay out of shops and restaurants. It’s December 2020 all over again.



this is complete ignorance and fake news. not everyone is going to get covid. not even close. even the spanish flu peak was one third at most.

of course in your case you may very likely personally be the cause of someone getting it, but that is another story. :rolleyes:

photoLith Dec 21, 2021 3:56 PM

^
The world is a much more connected place than it was 100 years ago. Therefor, it is logical to conclude that nearly everyone at some point in the next couple of years will get this largely innocuous virus.

twister244 Dec 21, 2021 4:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mrnyc (Post 9482841)
this is complete ignorance and fake news. not everyone is going to get covid. not even close. even the spanish flu peak was one third at most.

of course in your case you may very likely personally be the cause of someone getting it, but that is another story. :rolleyes:

Maybe not infected with severe illness, but I agree that most people will get exposed, if they already haven't. You can't look at Omicron and think most people won't get exposed somehow...... You're living in a bubble if you think there's not a significant chance you get in contact with it at some point. Doesn't mean you need to freak out, but just be aware of how easily this thing can spread.

iheartthed Dec 21, 2021 4:15 PM

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Originally Posted by twister244 (Post 9482877)
Maybe not infected with severe illness, but I agree that most people will get exposed, if they already haven't. You can't look at Omicron and think most people won't get exposed somehow...... You're living in a bubble if you think there's not a significant chance you get in contact with it at some point. Doesn't mean you need to freak out, but just be aware of how easily this thing can spread.

Anecdotally, I never became symptomatic after recently having a large number of direct exposures. I tested negative about 1.5 weeks ago but haven't tested again because no symptoms, and I'm no longer planning to travel. I assume that all of these cases were omicron, since they were all vaccinated and I'd never personally seen that type of spread among vaccinated during the waves of delta. All of my known direct exposures were about three weeks after I had the booster. Everyone I have spoken to who has been infected in the past two weeks was either not boosted or within 2 weeks of the booster.


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