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BifRayRock Dec 31, 2012 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 5954063)
Your posted photo reminds me that of the time a former work colleague told that one of the most vivid (and not unpleasant) memories of his childhood was watching Clara Bow have it off with King Vidor in the back seat of a car in his father's driveway while a party was in progress in the house. Dunno if it was a LaSalle.

Oops. :redface:
http://www.81dayswithoscarandme.com/img/WingsClara.pnggoogle

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qB_dIrLWN4...1600/clara.jpghttp://dawnschickflicks.blogspot.com...fun-facts.html


Vidor > http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8043

FredH Dec 31, 2012 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5953812)


Circa '39 (According to source)
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00101/00101363.jpglapl

Ended up like this:

http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/8955/00008755.jpg
lapl

What happened to the auto loan place?

johnjohn7188 Dec 31, 2012 12:42 AM

The church is the original Blessed Sacrament Church in Hollywood.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=2234

http://paradiseleased.wordpress.com/...-of-hollywood/

:)


Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 5914192)
Church and house on Hollywood Blvd, ca. 1905 Cross street is either Ivar or Cherokee. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7267
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics39/00039371.jpg
1907
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics16/00007787.jpglapl

East on Hollywood Blvd from Cherokee. Source marks image as '55, more likely circa '24, as indicated on second image.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics26/00032807.jpglapl
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics16/00007813.jpg

1930 - 6646 Hollywood Blvd. - Cherokee Building
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...8MDUTM486J.jpgCalStLib

Hollywood and Cherokee apartments, 1937 (?) Assume complex is north of Hollywood Blvd.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics42/00070647.jpghttp://jpg3.lapl.org/pics42/00070649.jpglapl

1937 - NW corner Hollywood and Cherokee
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00098/00098558.jpglapl

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...3668808E5?v=hrUSC Digital


FredH Dec 31, 2012 1:51 AM

Well, What do you know!
 
I went looking for more information on the U.P. Hotel at Ceres and Central...

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3221/00041854.jpg
lapl

...and found it right here on our own thread.

Beaudry had posted this photo way back on June 2, 2010:

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/6...01a0339d0b.jpg
USC

There is our hotel on the right, and it is directly across the street from the Union Pacific Station at 5th and Central. That not only explains why it was named the U.P. Hotel, but also why there was even a hotel there at all.

Also, check out the tracks going down Ceres!

tovangar2 Dec 31, 2012 3:15 AM

El Aliso
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Los Angeles Past (Post 5119107)
(in reply to sopas_ej)I can't stop looking at this phenomenal image! What an incredible historical treasure. First thing I went looking for was the semi-legendary ancient sycamore tree for which Aliso Street was named. I think I heard once that it was located near where the old Maier Brewery stood, but I can't see anything in that general area that stands out as possibly being the tree...

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5165/...9eebabae_o.jpg

BTW, is there a URL link for this image? I'd like to learn more about its provenance, if possible.

-Scott

Did you ever get your question answered about the location of the sycamore? El Aliso is on the right, surrounded by the low-level white buildings of Vignes' El Aliso Winery.

Los Angeles Past Dec 31, 2012 3:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 5954215)
Did you ever get your question answered about the location of the sycamore? El Aliso is on the right, surrounded by the low-level white buildings of Vignes' El Aliso Winery.

Oh, yes! Your previous post about El Aliso and the Tongva was one of my favorites in this whole thread. :tup:

-Scott

tovangar2 Dec 31, 2012 3:26 AM

Union Pacific Hotel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 5954158)
I went looking for more information on the U.P. Hotel at Ceres and Central...

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3221/00041854.jpg
lapl

...and found it right here on our own thread.

Beaudry had posted this photo way back on June 2, 2010:

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/6...01a0339d0b.jpg
USC

There is our hotel on the right, and it is directly across the street from the Union Pacific Station at 5th and Central. That not only explains why it was named the U.P. Hotel, but also why there was even a hotel there at all.

Also, check out the tracks going down Ceres!

Thank you so much FredH. I can see now the balusters that filled-in the roofline trim on the hotel. It's one of the joys of this thread that one can look back at previous posts and suddenly see buildings one has just learned about. Abigail Stark's house is an example. Since GW told us about it, I look at previous photos with new eyes.

tovangar2 Dec 31, 2012 3:31 AM

El Aliso
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Los Angeles Past (Post 5954218)
Oh, yes! Your previous post about El Aliso and the Tongva was one of my favorites in this whole thread. :tup:

-Scott

Thank you. High praise indeed.

(We're the tree people for sure.)

FredH Dec 31, 2012 4:17 AM

Clara Bow and the USC football team
 
Just to link together (so to speak) a couple of recent posts:

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1869/capturecud.jpg
http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/4236/capture1vf.jpg

Darn! That would have been noirish.

Hobocat Dec 31, 2012 6:19 AM

I love all the great photos on this site! Keeps me entertained for hours. The train station at 526 S Central was actually Southern Pacific's Central Station. In the days before Union Station (pre 1939) each of the 3 major carriers had their own stations. Santa Fe's was La Grande Station at 100 S Santa Fe Ave and Union Pacific's was right across the L.A. River from there. Railroad Hotels were common near depots in those days and it's possible this was once the "S.P." Hotel and a name change may have occured after Central Station was closed and new owners took over.

Hobocat Dec 31, 2012 6:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 5954221)
Thank you so much FredH. I can see now the balusters that filled-in the roofline trim on the hotel. It's one of the joys of this thread that one can look back at previous posts and suddenly see buildings one has just learned about. Abigail Stark's house is an example. Since GW told us about it, I look at previous photos with new eyes.

I love all the great photos on this site! Keeps me entertained for hours. The train station at 526 S Central was actually Southern Pacific's Central Station. In the days before Union Station (pre 1939) each of the 3 major carriers had their own stations. Santa Fe's was La Grande Station at 100 S Santa Fe Ave and Union Pacific's was right across the L.A. River from there. Railroad Hotels were common near depots in those days and it's possible this was once the "S.P." Hotel and a name change may have occured after Central Station was closed and new owners took over.

BifRayRock Dec 31, 2012 1:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 5954242)
Just to link together (so to speak) a couple of recent posts:

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1869/capturecud.jpg
http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/4236/capture1vf.jpg

Darn! That would have been noirish.

The road to hell is paved with the best of intentions.

Rightly or wrongly, Ms. Bow's publicity machine most successfully personified her as "it." The stills released from her films speak for themselves. Her cafe was popular or at least advertised as popular. Ms. Bow offered her hospitality to football heroes from USC and visiting teams at her home and other locations. "Hospitality" is a matter of interpretation.

The likelihood of her being acquainted with Wayne and Vidor in a small company town, under a huge magnifying glass, was great - even if it never happened. (T'ee.) This could have occurred at parties, premiers, the Fox commissary, the "It" Cafe, the second to the last row of the Ritz Theater, the La Brea Food Spot, Simon's, King Vidor's lengthy driveway on Summit Drive (below) or in the Shadow of the Sunset Tower. I have a strong suspicion that some observations were accurate but misinterpreted. As a consummate professional, Ms. Bow may have been merely rehearsing or researching film roles with K.Vidor. :rolleyes:

King Vidor's Summit Drive Home. Design primarily attributed to Wallace Neff.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Pmjd5_C6-M..._0940_001n.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Pmjd5_C6-M..._0940_001n.jpg

Mr. Neff and Paulette Goddard (more at link below)
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1TE4kcTuB_.../s1600/002.jpg

1931 - Sunset shadow-caster
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Pmjd5_C6-M...Tower+1931.jpg

1938 - starmap
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Pmjd5_C6-M...+Stars+Map.jpg (More>http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8043 )

All from an excellent primer on So Cal Architecture >>> http://www.christophechoo.com/southe...-sunset-strip/

tovangar2 Dec 31, 2012 8:19 PM

Vidor/Bow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5954414)
[COLOR="Indigo"][SIZE="2"][FONT="Tahoma"]The road to hell is paved with the best of intentions.

Rightly or wrongly, Ms. Bow's publicity machine most successfully personified her as "it." The stills released from her films speak for themselves. Her cafe was popular or at least advertised as popular. Ms. Bow offered her hospitality to football heroes from USC and visiting teams at her home and other locations. "Hospitality" is a matter of interpretation.

The likelihood of her being acquainted with Wayne and Vidor in a small company town, under a huge magnifying glass, was great - even if it never happened. (T'ee.) This could have occurred at parties, premiers, the Fox commissary, the "It" Cafe, the second to the last row of the Ritz Theater, the La Brea Food Spot, Simon's, King Vidor's lengthy driveway on Summit Drive (below) or in the Shadow of the Sunset Tower. I have a strong suspicion that some observations were accurate but misinterpreted. As a consummate professional, Ms. Bow may have been merely rehearsing or researching film roles with K.Vidor. :rolleyes:

LOL. My poorly constructed sentence may have misled one into thinking it was Vidor's driveway. It was actually Alfred Santell's, although I cannot now remember where that house was (let alone how secluded the drive).

Thx for the excellent link :-)

I do like Leland Bryant. His Afton Arms is how we got on this tangent to begin with.

tovangar2 Dec 31, 2012 8:32 PM

Central Station/Santa Fe Station/River Station
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hobocat (Post 5954299)
I love all the great photos on this site! Keeps me entertained for hours. The train station at 526 S Central was actually Southern Pacific's Central Station. In the days before Union Station (pre 1939) each of the 3 major carriers had their own stations. Santa Fe's was La Grande Station at 100 S Santa Fe Ave and Union Pacific's was right across the L.A. River from there. Railroad Hotels were common near depots in those days and it's possible this was once the "S.P." Hotel and a name change may have occured after Central Station was closed and new owners took over.

Thx for the clarification. Previous posts here referred to Central Station as either S.P. or U. P., which left me a bit confused.

Nathan Masters has more here: http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_fo...ing-buses.html

And yet more here from kla4067: http://www.flickr.com/photos/84263554@N00/6617756803/

While growing up here I had no thought of what was in use before my beloved Union Station.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...m5HhteIUwPGVyA
usc digital archive (previously posted by e_r)

And digging up River Station http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...les&id=6381253

FredH Dec 31, 2012 9:54 PM

Happy Noirish New Year Everyone!

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/407/00009066.jpg
lapl

Venice Beach

BifRayRock Dec 31, 2012 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 5954747)
LOL. My poorly constructed sentence may have misled one into thinking it was Vidor's driveway. It was actually Alfred Santell's, although I cannot now remember where that house was (let alone how secluded the drive).

Thx for the excellent link :-)

I do like Leland Bryant. His Afton Arms is how we got on this tangent to begin with.


No confusion with driveway ownership. Whether she ever personally visited it or not, Clara probably knew King Vidor's driveway was as long as his lengthy reputation. It's not always possible to determine what is happening on a humid night with steamed up car windows. Cue the fog machines and Bernard Hermann treatment of Blue Jay Way. A lot can be seen or not seen. When the legend reads better than the truth, another director (J.Ford) says print the legend. Now Gary Cooper and Clara Bow is another story. . . . ."

As an aside, many who follow this thread are aware that some believe King Vidor solved the William Desmond Taylor murder. "Cast of Killers" http://vimeo.com/11028211 Others remain unconvinced.

1967 - The Castle
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics49/00059391.jpg

1940's (?)
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics34/00051541.jpg lapl

_____________________

Coop and Bow
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_QOFSeWNczR...nofdivorce.jpggoogle

http://content8.flixster.com/photo/9...447258_gal.jpggoogle

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0...8fuqo1_500.jpggoogle

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3...8fuqo1_500.pnggoogle

Comfortable Clara
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3...fuqo1_1280.jpggoogle

Gary Cooper's Brentwood Residence
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics24/00061828.jpglapl

1950
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics47/00073061.jpglapl

Hap Hap Happy New Year to all.




BifRayRock Dec 31, 2012 10:55 PM

Heimann Monroe & Jones Optical
Circa 1937 - Wilshire Blvd. and Westlake Ave. (2000 Wilshire Blvd. (?))
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics32/00065821.jpglapl

BifRayRock Dec 31, 2012 11:02 PM

Be careful out there!

October 20. 1952 - Slauson Avenue and Long Beach Blvd.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics34/00066983.jpglapl


tovangar2 Jan 1, 2013 12:32 AM

Angels Flight Station House through the Years
 
I'm still wondering why the Angels Flight station house got truncated in the 20's, why the six-bay 1910 version wasn't restored when the railway was relocated and also when the unfortunate, bulky porch was added. The arches of the open pavilion end of the 1910 version were picked out in lights to match the gate at the lower terminus. Jim Dawson never brings the subject up in his book on Angels Flight. (And if anyone has a better pic of the 1910 version, I'd love to see it.)

1900:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-y...740%2520PM.jpg
usc digital archive

1910:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--...641%2520PM.jpg
eBay (detail of panorama)

1920's
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J...351%2520PM.jpg

The lost years:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-S...320%2520PM.jpg
LAT

Today:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-d...053%2520PM.jpg
LosAngelesPast.blogspot.com

tovangar2 Jan 1, 2013 12:42 AM

Happy New Year!
 
http://www.ifc.com/wp-content/upload...r-12302011.jpg
ifc.com


....and Thank You :-)


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