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ethereal_reality Dec 28, 2012 2:51 AM

A wonderful looking home.

http://imageshack.us/a/img201/9056/a...ellyoung50.jpg
ebay



http://imageshack.us/a/img41/1170/aa...k2portrait.jpg
http://www.stanford.edu/~gdegroat/CKY/home.htm



below: 5070 Hollywood Blvd. today

http://imageshack.us/a/img145/9056/a...ellyoung50.jpg
google street view




I've never seen a movie star pennant.

http://imageshack.us/a/img526/3950/a...rak1penant.jpg
http://www.stanford.edu/~gdegroat/CKY/home.htm

Mostly forgotten today, Clara Kimball Young was the most popular movie star in the United States in the 1910s and early 1920s.

ethereal_reality Dec 28, 2012 2:58 AM

http://imageshack.us/a/img812/9674/aamlevy1labels.jpg
labels/ebay







314-312 Los Angeles Street in 1892.

http://imageshack.us/a/img89/1682/aa...tore1892lh.jpg
ebay




reverse
http://imageshack.us/a/img141/7193/aamlevy2.jpg

I love that they included ol' Joe (the horse).

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ethereal_reality Dec 28, 2012 3:03 AM

http://imageshack.us/a/img547/8763/aaadbungalow1907.jpg
vintage ad found on ebay

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FredH Dec 28, 2012 3:17 AM

:previous:

And now at 312-314 N. Los Angeles Street, we have this fine establishment:

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/7393/capturezjg.jpg
Google Street View

The wonderful Immigration and Naturalization Service

Lwize Dec 28, 2012 4:29 AM

So much of the city's core has disappeared, been paved over, rearranged, re-purposed -- I don't know where I'm going with this, but sometimes I wonder if exposing Los Angeles' past is upsetting some natural balance we maintain with the ghosts of our history. Or maybe the icy cold wind I'm feeling is just icy cold wind...

tovangar2 Dec 28, 2012 4:37 AM

Hollywood and Highland 1929 & 1953
 
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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5739747)
Beautiful shot of Hollywood Blvd and Highland Ave, 1953
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7213/7...3dd56154_b.jpg
Hollywood Blvd from the roof of the Roosevelt Hotel, Dec, 1953

Looking down at intersection of Hollywood and Highland, Hotel Hollywood left/center, Graumann's out of frame left bottom. image from Metro Transportation Library and Archive

This 1929 daytime shot is a close match:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-P...825%2520PM.jpg
reddawgcollectables -ebay

If the dates are correct on the two pix, the lack of change is amazing.
The palms at the Hotel Hollywood are a mite taller, but, other than that, there's not many differences.

malumot Dec 28, 2012 5:05 AM

All valid comments, GW, Tovangar, and ER......

Now for the cherry on top:

The very day after I was born.....:(

And a day after HER birthday as well!

Birthdays are milestones. Sometimes they are wonderful. Sometimes not.

I suppose if nothing else we have kept Esther's spirit alive here.


Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5950860)
A little bit of Esther's story:

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9785/easthercompl.jpgLAT


It seems that she was born in Nebraska on March 12, 1905, the daughter of Philip and Dora Stein; she had three sisters and two brothers. The Steins moved into their various residences several decades after they were built, each of their houses reflecting the changing architectural styles of the city and its westward development; in 1920, the family lived in a Victorian cottage at 275 East 49th St; in 1930, in a Craftsman at 1763 West 41st; in 1940, in a Mediterranean cottage at 1717 S Mansfield Ave.


http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6...housecompl.jpg
GoogleSV


ethereal_reality Dec 28, 2012 5:34 AM

:previous: Existential dread malumot.
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....on a lighter note.

A Burbank pastoral that will be 104 years old in seven days.

http://imageshack.us/a/img405/3125/a...storalebay.jpg
ebay

Can one of you geography experts figure out the location by using the mountains in the distance?
I tried and failed. :(
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ethereal_reality Dec 28, 2012 6:13 AM

Two 1898 photographs (albumin prints) newly listed on ebay.

http://imageshack.us/a/img534/1971/aabebaydec2012.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Two-5x8-inch...item337ec60a2a

The seller doesn't say, but that's the Bradbury Building at far right.






Los Angeles County Courthouse and environs
http://imageshack.us/a/img145/8595/aabebaydec2012a.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Two-5x8-inch...item337ec60a2a

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ProphetM Dec 28, 2012 6:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5951956)
:previous: Existential dread malumot...your post made me shudder.
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....on a lighter note.

A Burbank pastoral that will be 104 years old in seven days.

http://imageshack.us/a/img405/3125/a...storalebay.jpg
ebay

Can one of you geography experts figure out the location by using the mountains in the distance?
I tried and failed. :(
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Using Google Earth, the mountain peaks match up very well from the intersection of Glenoaks & Olive. They're far enough away though that the view is about the same from anywhere in that area. there's no telling exactly where it is unless someone knows something about that house at the right edge of the picture.

ethereal_reality Dec 28, 2012 6:20 AM

Thanks ProphetM.
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DouglasUrantia Dec 28, 2012 7:07 AM

Burbank ~ 2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 5951968)
Using Google Earth, the mountain peaks match up very well from the intersection of Glenoaks & Olive. They're far enough away though that the view is about the same from anywhere in that area. there's no telling exactly where it is unless someone knows something about that house at the right edge of the picture.

Its difficult to get a clear view of the hills from street view due to the trees.
GSV....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psc300ddb8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psd8d2063b.jpg
Photo by Profit M and originally from Ethereal Thank you for the use.

GaylordWilshire Dec 28, 2012 2:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5951842)
A wonderful looking home.
http://imageshack.us/a/img201/9056/a...ellyoung50.jpg
ebay
below: 5070 Hollywood Blvd. today
http://imageshack.us/a/img145/9056/a...ellyoung50.jpg
google street view

Mostly forgotten today, Clara Kimball Young was the most popular movie star in the United States in the 1910s and early 1920s.


Well, ER, 5070 Hollywood Blvd was actually the studio of commercial photographer Charles W Beam. The house in the picture is a mystery... it doesn't seem to match up with any of the houses listed on various websites as Kimball's home. Clara was listed in the 1920 census at the well-known Ramsey-Durfee house at 2425 S Western Ave (I thought we'd covered it here, but I can't find it; see Big Orange Landmarks. The house in the picture looks to me to be one even farther east in the West Adams district; she did once live at 1010 Magnolia--a now-missing block of that street, but I'm not sure the terrain would match up. Maybe it still stands somewhere....

ethereal_reality Dec 28, 2012 4:57 PM

mystery location (to me anyway)

http://imageshack.us/a/img585/3465/a...tionyenkon.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/
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ethereal_reality Dec 28, 2012 5:06 PM

A snapshot from ebay.

http://imageshack.us/a/img507/4931/aagordonsunset.jpg



detail
http://imageshack.us/a/img825/4433/a...tdetail520.jpg

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ethereal_reality Dec 28, 2012 5:15 PM

Anyone know where this was located? The date on the photo is 1929 (no other information).

http://imageshack.us/a/img16/5430/aa...lsarchwhat.jpg
ebay

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ethereal_reality Dec 28, 2012 5:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DouglasUrantia (Post 5951991)
Its difficult to get a clear view of the hills from street view due to the trees.
GSV....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psc300ddb8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psd8d2063b.jpg

Impressive job DU.
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except your pictures are missing

AlvaroLegido Dec 28, 2012 6:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 5865469)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5865777)

I noticed all through the thread in the "then & nows" that besides looking "noirisher", the buildings and mansions always look bigger, sometimes taller and a lot more imposing in black & white than in colors. In the "nows" they get an obvious lack of majesty. Why ?
Is there among us a photographer who can explain that ?
A current example :

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 5951542)


GaylordWilshire Dec 28, 2012 6:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5952251)
Anyone know where this was located? The date on the photo is 1929 (no other information).

http://imageshack.us/a/img16/5430/aa...lsarchwhat.jpg
ebay

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http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/1...vhillssign.jpgGoogleSV

If there is still just one of these signs, it looks to me like it--or an update of it--is in the same spot it was in when the picture was taken. I've read that the current park was created at about that time,
but you'd think there'd be more houses in the background. The ladies' clothes look earlier than the late '20s.... Below is an ad from the winter 1906-07 Sunset magazine.


http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/4...lsadsunset.jpg

tovangar2 Dec 28, 2012 6:50 PM

Beverly Gardens Park
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5952251)
Anyone know where this was located? The date on the photo is 1929 (no other information).

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That's Beverly Gardens Park. 22 blocks long & one block house lot wide. Opened 1911. The sign looks like this now:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...21.03.2012.jpg
wiki

It runs along Santa Monica Blvd and shields the upscale residential part of BH from the commercial sector and the homes on the "flats", on the wrong side of the once-literal tracks.

(I seem to recall that it was the homeowners north of Santa Monica Blvd that bought the land for the buffer-zone park & presented it to the city, but I can't find the reference right now.)




P.S. The sign is in the slightly wider part of the park between Canon & Beverly.

Everyone knows Beverly Garden's western end:
http://neplains.com/ProductImages/pc...836-1AH392.jpg
ebay

Elizabeth Frazier Lloyd, Harold Lloyd's mother, raised the money to build the Electric Fountain in 1930 through the Beverly Hills Women's Club.


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