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ethereal_reality Sep 19, 2012 4:49 PM

1958 Los Angeles ad touting its lack of skyscrapers.

http://imageshack.us/a/img840/3156/a...ngnoskyscr.jpg
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oldstuff Sep 19, 2012 5:21 PM

court house corner stone
 
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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5784098)
You finding that cornerstone is one of the coolest things I've ever heard. To think of the literally hundreds of people who have seen it and not known what they were looking at, the thousands of people who have passed within a few feet of it and not understood the link it represented and then to have you come along with the eyes to see it. It puts you in pretty select company. Wow, it doesn't get too much better than that. I'm happy for you.

While I can't prove it, I think that the current courthouse (Stanley Mosk Courthouse) has a piece of the "Red Sandstone Courthouse" of which we have frequently seen in this thread. it is located on the Hill Street side, to the left of the steps. The stone is definitely red sandstone and there must be a connection, especially since they moved the bronze clock hands and numbers from the first courthouse to the red sandstone and then to Stanley Mosk as a nod to history.

ethereal_reality Sep 19, 2012 5:29 PM

http://imageshack.us/a/img62/9984/hotelwillardn.jpg
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http://imageshack.us/a/img824/1686/hotelwillardmap.jpg


Hotel Willard? I always knew this simply as the Bible Institute. (shown below in 1915)

http://imageshack.us/a/img705/686/ho...ibleinstit.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1348075093191




below: The 'Hotel Willard' is just to the right of Bertram G. Goodhue's brand new library, circa 1926.

http://imageshack.us/a/img835/8867/hotelw1926.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1348075093191

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ethereal_reality Sep 19, 2012 7:06 PM

East Los Angeles Union Pacific Station at 5480 Ferguson Avenue. Somehow we've overlooked this charming little train station.


http://imageshack.us/a/img7/2050/eas...cstationea.jpg
http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/kt167nd7x0/





It still stand today....behind a wire fence.

http://imageshack.us/a/img7/1425/eas...cificstati.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8426355...5911/lightbox/





http://imageshack.us/a/img515/3945/e...cificrrlaa.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/39252242@N07/4851328387/

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The following photos were taken in 2001.




http://imageshack.us/a/img829/5823/eastlarevisited1.jpg
http://losangelesrevisited.blogspot....bello-and.html







http://imageshack.us/a/img834/5240/eastlarevisited.jpg
http://losangelesrevisited.blogspot....bello-and.html
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Just to be sure that it's still there I checked Google Earth. Yep, still there! :)

http://imageshack.us/a/img32/6523/ea...npacaerial.jpg
Google Earth

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unihikid Sep 19, 2012 7:42 PM

wow,thats just amazing,i wonder if its protected? i didnt even know east la had a station.

rmos Sep 19, 2012 8:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5836942)
It doesn't really matter--it's a great shot whatever the year--but I think this is most likely a Christmas before 1959.... American would probably not have been advertising piston-powered DC7 service so prominently in 1962. AA inaugurated jet service on January 25, 1959, flying its new 707 from LAX to Idlewild/JFK.


I can't make out what movie is showing at the Admiral . . . that would be a easy way to date the card. I agree . . . it's a great shot!

GaylordWilshire Sep 19, 2012 9:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5837344)
East Los Angeles Union Pacific Station at 5480 Ferguson Avenue. Somehow we've overlooked this charming little train station.

http://imageshack.us/a/img7/2050/eas...cstationea.jpg
http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/kt167nd7x0/

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I think Lana drops her husband off at the East L.A. station in The Postman Always Rings Twice.... Can anyone come up with a screenshot?

MichaelRyerson Sep 20, 2012 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 5837226)
While I can't prove it, I think that the current courthouse (Stanley Mosk Courthouse) has a piece of the "Red Sandstone Courthouse" of which we have frequently seen in this thread. it is located on the Hill Street side, to the left of the steps. The stone is definitely red sandstone and there must be a connection, especially since they moved the bronze clock hands and numbers from the first courthouse to the red sandstone and then to Stanley Mosk as a nod to history.

Yes, I see it. I went streetview surfing and thanks to you it jumped right out at me. I have to agree there isn't any other explanation that seems as reasonable. If that is the case, isn't it maddeningly obtuse to put it there without any apparent notation as to what you're looking at. I hope there's some plaque that just doesn't show up in streetview.

BifRayRock Sep 20, 2012 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5833314)
It appears they turned them frequently as there seems to be an area below each prop (including the rearward propellers) restricted by a chain link fence so that paying customers may have the experience of the spinning propellers without losing their heads.

Another angle of Bob's. Apparently from a post card. Only wish it were larger considering background includes a large Mobile sign and an area not depicted in other photos. The foreground includes a street which is likely Cochran Avenue at its intersection with Wilshire. Surprised that someone hasn't uncovered an aerial photo that includes Bob's. (I have been looking.;);))

http://www.johnmargolies.com/Travel/...aneService.jpggoogle


MR> In some shots the chain link fence is missing. Maybe safety (or prevention of unauthorized propeller removal) was an afterthought. Notice the cash register, in front of attendant, is exposed to all the elements. Wonder whether the station operated around-the-clock - or when closed, it (or its valuable contents) were moved indoors.



http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Converter?i...8&w=1200&h=771


BifRayRock Sep 20, 2012 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5837505)
I think Lana drops her husband off at the East L.A. station in The Postman Always Rings Twice.... Can anyone come up with a screenshot?

Have not viewed the film in years so I cannot vouch for the location. Always assumed it was in Glendale. IMDB lists Norwalk as shooting location. http://www.imdb.com/search/title?loc...ifornia,%20USA

For what it's worth . . . the players look like Garfield and Turner. Unfortunately, no topographical indicators.

http://28212.vws.magma.ca/movie_repr...IA___small.jpggoogle

BifRayRock Sep 20, 2012 1:07 AM

Have seen many early photos of Westwood on this forum and elsewhere. Something that did not seem to receive much attention was the size, height and number of building pylons or towers. The Richfield structure supporting an eagle is particularly impressive.

Pylon uniformity suggests they were the product of serious planning, rigorous enforcement of height restrictions - or the same architect/builder. If only they still existed.


1937
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics43/00071214.jpg
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics43/00071213.jpgLAPL


1945
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0-NPgEffAS...illage1945.jpghttp://uclafacultyassociation.blogsp...d-in-past.html

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unihikid Sep 20, 2012 2:44 AM

bif is that richfield neon sign from the service station near malibu? i remember about 10 yrs ago me and some friends got lost going to a palisades high school football game and ran into this retro service station that sold gas but mainly had older cars,i spoke with the owner and he sold lead in a can or something for older cars,so they would go there get lead and then fill up.the last time i was in la i couldnt find the place and i dont know the name or street it was on,but we were heading west from santa monica and ended up at the station towards a base of a hill,after we left we ended up on pch.:shrug:

BifRayRock Sep 20, 2012 3:09 AM

:previous:Sorry, unable to place neon sign location. You may be right about the coast, but Richfield covered many western States.

BifRayRock Sep 20, 2012 3:20 AM

1954
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics04/00021873.jpglapl

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zrD7EK_bSx...race_sells.jpggoogle

1958
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...301-030~1?v=hrUSC Digital

Undated photo of Rosemary Clooney and Liberace at Hillcrest CC party following Hollywood Bowl concert. (Unclear who was performing)
http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Converter?i...=0&w=868&h=736

Liberace and "some" singer from Tupelo Mississippi . . .
http://www.elvis-history-blog.com/images/Liberace1.jpghttp://www.elvis-history-blog.com/images/Liberace3.jpghttp://www.elvis-history-blog.com/elvis-liberace.html

westcork Sep 20, 2012 3:38 AM

There's a cool article in the LA Times about Glen Creason, the map librarian at the downtown Central Library.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...4236916.column

http://www.trbimg.com/img-505a5e43/t...g-20120919/600

MichaelRyerson Sep 20, 2012 12:47 PM

Bif, great shots of Westwood. Really great. Interesting to see it laid out and be able to appreciate what the unifying architectural vision had been. So obvious before the urban clutter intrudes. As for the outside cash box at our favorite Airplane-cum-GasStation, it used to be a standard feature at service stations to have a cash box mounted on a post at each of the pump islands. I don't remember how they were secured to the post but they would be carried out at the start of the shift or when the station opened for the business day and could be accessed with a key each attendant carried (usually on a retractable chain on their belt or waistband) in order to make change and later to issue the ubiquitous green (or blue chip) stamps. My dad worked at several gas stations as he was coming up and I have some early memories of how it all worked. He was robbed once when he worked at a station on Western Ave (around third street) and a week or so later managed to help in finding the robbers when they thoughtlessly drove by on his shift again and he and another guy flagged down a police cruiser and my dad rode along with them down Western for a mile or so until they found the car (at another gas station). The story became part of family lore.

GaylordWilshire Sep 20, 2012 4:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5837344)


Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5837505)
I think Lana drops her husband off at the East L.A. station in The Postman Always Rings Twice.... Can anyone come up with a screenshot?

I was mixing up Lana with Barbara as far as whose husband was dropped off in East L.A.--Barbara dropped hers off at the Tropico station (rebadged "Glendale" for Double Indemnity). Lana's husband Nick was dead by the time of the train station scenes with Audrey Totter when Lana arrives back from Iowa... anyway, the station in Postman was indeed the East Los Angeles station. Here are some screenshots:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-p...2520PM.bmp.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-V...2520PM.bmp.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2...2520PM.bmp.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o...2520PM.bmp.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Z...2520PM.bmp.jpg

All pics Warner Bros.

BifRayRock Sep 20, 2012 8:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5838387)
I was mixing up Lana with Barbara as far as whose husband was dropped off in East L.A.--Barbara dropped hers off at the Tropico station (rebadged "Glendale" for Double Indemnity). Lana's husband Nick was dead by the time of the train station scenes with Audrey Totter when Lana arrives back from Iowa... anyway, the station in Postman was indeed the East Los Angeles station.


Kudos.

As noted, the not-always-infallible IMDB lists the station as being in Norwalk. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0038854/locations Oddly enough, the only filming listed for the purported station is the 1946 version of "Postman" without a physical address. As I am unfamiliar with Norwalk, I expected to see a few shots of an overlooked or long forgotten depot that may have served that location. A cursory search reveals only a modern Metrolink station. Wiki mentions Norwalk as having a train station:
Quote:

"While a majority of the Norwalk countryside remained undeveloped during the 1880s, the Norwalk Station allowed potential residents the opportunity to visit the 'country' from across the nation."
Unfortunately, no address is provided, nor does there appear to be any photos of a station. Perhaps in later years the depot devolved into a series of streetcar stops, with "heavier" rail traffic being available in nearby communities or hubs like Grand Central?

Edit:
Norwalk Station, date and name of horse unk. Per comments, the station was demolished in the early '60s. Paralleled Foster Rd. previously known as Locust St (near San Antonio). (?)
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3068/3...10aae63b_o.jpgFlicker

BifRayRock Sep 20, 2012 9:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5838131)
My dad worked at several gas stations as he was coming up and I have some early memories of how it all worked. He was robbed once when he worked at a station on Western Ave (around third street) and a week or so later managed to help in finding the robbers when they thoughtlessly drove by on his shift again and he and another guy flagged down a police cruiser and my dad rode along with them down Western for a mile or so until they found the car (at another gas station). The story became part of family lore.

A happy ending for your Dad - what are the odds!

The exposed cash register and your Dad's story reminded me of running low on gas before the days of cell phones and expensive gas - in the deep and unfamiliar South. Drove miles out of my way to find the only station open on a Sunday night. Attendant refused to sell gas claiming he was waiting for the owner and police. The outdoor cashbox and all it contents had mysteriously disappeared! Police were slow because they were on the hunt for an escaped convict. I did not stick around long enough to find out whether the escapee resembled Paul Muni. ;)

http://twentyfourframes.files.wordpr...e-lc.jpg?w=640http://twentyfourframes.wordpress.com/tag/paul-muni/
IMDB lists exterior locations that include Griffith Park and Chatsworth. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0023042/locations No mention of Norwalk :haha:


oldstuff Sep 20, 2012 9:24 PM

Burbank
 
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5486658)
I just found this photo of the Whelan Building from the 1960s. PAN right---->



http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/782...nandordoli.jpg
http://wesclark.com/burbank/san_fern...e_at_right.jpg


This is San Fernando Road with Olive Avenue at the right.

If you go back and look at sopas' 1952 photo you can spot both Maxwell's and Mayor Jewelers...as well as the Coca-Cola sign.

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The bones of the building are the original "Brick Block" from 1888, the oldest brick building in Burbank. Photos from the Burbank Historical Society show the building when it still had the dome at the corner. The elaborate cornices were put in somewhat later.


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