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Beaudry Jun 15, 2014 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6618690)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/850/7wjk.jpg
That marquee area and port cochere look awfully familiar, I wonder what is there now?

I think you're thinking of Lawry's -- as well from the hand of Wayne McAllister.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_AbImehj4Li...600/lawrys.jpg

The above image comes from here, which emerges when you click The Stinking Rose.

As for Richlors, writes Chris Nichols in his book on Wayne McAllister: "The new owners of Richlor's chose to renovate the restaurant, an authentic product of the 1940s, into a 'fifties' cafe by grafting on an authentic 1930s-style prefabricated diner! The building was demolished in 2004."

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2934/...35fbe7bd_c.jpg

Quote and image from one of the great books on Los Angeles and beyond: TLAoWM

sadykadie2 Jun 15, 2014 5:19 AM

No EXCUSE for that! I always think of this kind of, dare I say it, RAPE, of our heritage happened in the 50's and 60's. No excuse for tearing down the The ModernCraft.

Those Who Squirm! Jun 15, 2014 5:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6612968)

Fascinating stuff, e_r! I'm almost positive that this house was occupied in the early 1990s by a co-worker of mine back then. He used to have pictures of it on his website, but evidently he's moved to another part of the country and took down his pictures of this house. Or maybe I simply couldn't find them.

I'll let him know about your post as he'd probably be interested.

sadykadie2 Jun 15, 2014 6:41 AM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6484371)
I saw this Magritte-inspired bollard design recently. It's the work of a French street artist called OakOak. Now that we've reached 1000 pages, maybe we should put up something similar in Los Angeles as a tribute to ethereal_reality :).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...e.jpg~original
oakoak on Facebook

I'd go for that!:cheers:

sadykadie2 Jun 15, 2014 6:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6618655)
:pissed:

No EXCUSE for that! I always think of this kind of, dare I say it, RAPE, of our heritage happened in the 50's and 60's. No excuse for tearing down the The ModernCraft.:hell:

GaylordWilshire Jun 15, 2014 12:22 PM

Somewhere on Wilshire Blvd, 1927


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-s...2520AM.bmp.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-S...2520AM.bmp.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-P...2520AM.bmp.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7...2520AM.bmp.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5...2520AM.bmp.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-y...2520AM.bmp.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-o...2520AM.bmp.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-w...2520AM.bmp.jpg

Retired_in_Texas Jun 15, 2014 3:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sadykadie2 (Post 6619084)
No EXCUSE for that! I always think of this kind of, dare I say it, RAPE, of our heritage happened in the 50's and 60's. No excuse for tearing down the The ModernCraft.:hell:

It's always about economics and always will be regardless of anyone individual's or group of individuals preservation beliefs. If real estate can be put to greater economic use it will be. While many lament the loss of architectural example, it always boils down to whether an existing property can generate income through direct use or leasing to make an investment worthwhile. As long as real estate changes hands for any reason there will be changes in what was for what will be; will be may not be an improvement in the eyes of many.

Los Angeles has been the domain of real estate promoters, developers, hustlers, and sometimes charlatans; perhaps more so than any other city in the country since the early 1900s. It probably will remain so until the San Andreas fault opens up and swallows it or all business and industry packs up for elsewhere.

Retired_in_Texas Jun 15, 2014 4:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 6618854)
I think you're thinking of Lawry's -- as well from the hand of Wayne McAllister.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_AbImehj4Li...600/lawrys.jpg

The above image comes from here, which emerges when you click The Stinking Rose.

As for Richlors, writes Chris Nichols in his book on Wayne McAllister: "The new owners of Richlor's chose to renovate the restaurant, an authentic product of the 1940s, into a 'fifties' cafe by grafting on an authentic 1930s-style prefabricated diner! The building was demolished in 2004."

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2934/...35fbe7bd_c.jpg

Quote and image from one of the great books on Los Angeles and beyond: TLAoWM

With all due respect are you certain these two buildings are the same? Sure looks like a lot of what was Lawry's is missing in the second photo. Was the building in the first picture actually the Beverly Hills Restaurant and not of a later production facility for Lawry's Seasoned Salt and other products later marketed by the company.

This is the restaurant as it exists today and it is on La Cienega Boulevardhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...x-Lawrys02.jpg

We all kind of missed on bringing up the fact that Lawry's and the Tam O'Shanter Inn in Burbank were both founded by the same person, Lawrence Frank. Though they sold the Lawry's Salt and other products business in 1979, the Frank family remains the owners of the restaurant in Beverly Hills an have expanded the restaurant business into a chain with a number of stores worldwide.

GaylordWilshire Jun 15, 2014 5:10 PM

:previous:

If you read Beaudry's post a little more closely, you'll see that his comparison of Richlor's was to Ed Debevic's, both once at 134 N La Cienega. Their porte-cocheres and other details are the same.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 6618854)
As for Richlors, writes Chris Nichols in his book on Wayne McAllister: "The new owners of Richlor's chose to renovate the restaurant, an authentic product of the 1940s, into a 'fifties' cafe by grafting on an authentic 1930s-style prefabricated diner! The building was demolished in 2004."

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2934/...35fbe7bd_c.jpg

Quote and image from one of the great books on Los Angeles and beyond: TLAoWM


GaylordWilshire Jun 15, 2014 5:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sadykadie2 (Post 6619084)
No EXCUSE for that! I always think of this kind of, dare I say it, RAPE, of our heritage happened in the 50's and 60's. No excuse for tearing down the The ModernCraft.:hell:

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Originally Posted by Retired_in_Texas (Post 6619221)
It's always about economics and always will be regardless of anyone individual's or group of individuals preservation beliefs. If real estate can be put to greater economic use it will be. While many lament the loss of architectural example, it always boils down to whether an existing property can generate income through direct use or leasing to make an investment worthwhile. As long as real estate changes hands for any reason there will be changes in what was for what will be; will be may not be an improvement in the eyes of many.

Los Angeles has been the domain of real estate promoters, developers, hustlers, and sometimes charlatans; perhaps more so than any other city in the country since the early 1900s. It probably will remain so until the San Andreas fault opens up and swallows it or all business and industry packs up for elsewhere.


Stating the obvious about the economics of preservation versus development doesn't make the loss of the building any less regrettable.

Martin Pal Jun 15, 2014 6:42 PM

As for Lawry's
:previous:

In 1938 Lawry's The Prime Rib opened at 100 N. La Cienega Boulevard in Beverly Hills.

http://pstp-edison.com/img/exhibits/kim/25Kim04aLOW.jpg
http://pstp-edison.com/img/exhibits/kim/25Kim04aLOW.jpg

In 1947 Lawry's restaurant moved from its original location at 100 N. La Cienega across the street and a few blocks further south to a larger, mostly windowless, strikingly modernistic building designed by Wayne McAllister at 55 N. La Cienega.

This photo from Beaudry's post:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_AbImehj4Li...600/lawrys.jpg

In 1993 it moved to a new building on the original site at 100 N. La Cienega. McAllister's building is now occupied by The Stinking Rose, a well-known garlic-themed Italian restaurant. (55 N. La Cienega)

http://www.google.com/maps/vt/data=V...bHRiD8-mnWfbnw

http://lomo.architectureburger.com/w...1006-038-E.jpg
from Beaudry's link in above post

Retired_in_Texas Jun 15, 2014 6:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6619280)
:previous:

If you read Beaudry's post a little more closely, you'll see that his comparison of Richlor's was to Ed Debevic's, both once at 134 N La Cienega. Their porte-cocheres and other details are the same.

I believe you are correct. The Lawry's photo threw me a curve so to speak. It is indeed the same porte-codheres on both the Richlor's and Debevic's structures. Debevic obviously did nothing to actually enhance the original structure.

Retired_in_Texas Jun 15, 2014 7:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6619353)
As for Lawry's
:previous:

In 1938 Lawry's The Prime Rib opened at 100 N. La Cienega Boulevard in Beverly Hills.

http://pstp-edison.com/img/exhibits/kim/25Kim04aLOW.jpg
http://pstp-edison.com/img/exhibits/kim/25Kim04aLOW.jpg

In 1947 Lawry's restaurant moved from its original location at 100 N. La Cienega across the street and a few blocks further south to a larger, mostly windowless, strikingly modernistic building designed by Wayne McAllister at 55 N. La Cienega.

This photo from Beaudry's post:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_AbImehj4Li...600/lawrys.jpg

In 1993 it moved to a new building on the original site at 100 N. La Cienega. McAllister's building is now occupied by The Stinking Rose, a well-known garlic-themed Italian restaurant. (55 N. La Cienega)

http://www.google.com/maps/vt/data=V...bHRiD8-mnWfbnw

http://lomo.architectureburger.com/w...1006-038-E.jpg
from Beaudry's link in above post

Another view of the original Lawry's

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townn...review-300.jpg

http://www.nwitimes.com/entertainmen...b0997434e.html

Martin Pal Jun 15, 2014 7:25 PM

http://petermoruzzi.files.wordpress....ation-1938.jpg

If you click the above link you'll see a different VERY LARGE size photo of the 1938 Lawry's location. (Lawry's 75th Anniversary was last year.)

On the left of the photo on the wall of the parking lot is painted in script what appears to read "The Simpson's of America," which is not in the other photo above. If that's what it says, does anyone know what that might mean?

Martin Pal Jun 15, 2014 7:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 6618854)
As for Richlors, writes Chris Nichols in his book on Wayne McAllister: "The new owners of Richlor's chose to renovate the restaurant, an authentic product of the 1940s, into a 'fifties' cafe by grafting on an authentic 1930s-style prefabricated diner! The building was demolished in 2004."

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2934/...35fbe7bd_c.jpg

Quote and image from one of the great books on Los Angeles and beyond: TLAoWM

Here's the grafted on 1930's-style prefabricated diner that would be on the right of the above photo--it was not used as an entrance:

http://roadsidepeek.com/roadusa/sout...ebevicla2k.jpg

Ed Debevic's was a jumpin' joint in the 80's and 90's! The wait staff was always "on" like they were in a show. They'd yell out quips, often jump on the counters and dance, do a Conga line or have a sing-a-along. They once had their signature meat loaf special, but the chefs burned it. Customers asked for it anyway and liked it and a week later "Burnt Meat Loaf" was on the menu! (I have to say, it was delicious!)

At the time, I had no idea of it's past as Richlor's.

I found this link with reminiscences of Ed's and video, too!
http://hiddenlosangeles.com/flashbac...f-ed-debevics/

Retired_in_Texas Jun 15, 2014 7:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6619288)
Stating the obvious about the economics of preservation versus development doesn't make the loss of the building any less regrettable.

In light of the original comment regarding the building in question, "No excuse for tearing down the The ModernCraft" I think re-stating the obvious required.


Loss regrettable? Certainly, as the ModernCraft building was a remarkable example of the style.


Martin Pal Jun 15, 2014 7:50 PM

I don't find that this establishment has been mentioned before:

http://pstp-edison.com/img/exhibits/kim/27Kim16aLOW.jpg
http://pstp-edison.com/kim.html

Address is obvious!

Pokey's: Beverly Drive and Santa Monica Blvd. would be Beverly Hills.

Dated 1955.

CityBoyDoug Jun 15, 2014 8:04 PM

Prime Rib....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6619353)
As for Lawry's
:previous:

In 1938 Lawry's The Prime Rib opened at 100 N. La Cienega Boulevard in Beverly Hills.

http://pstp-edison.com/img/exhibits/kim/25Kim04aLOW.jpg
http://pstp-edison.com/img/exhibits/kim/25Kim04aLOW.jpg

This restaurant has several old time signature dishes. Creamed Corn and Creamed Spinach are favorites. Menu...$$$$.

They have this huge stainless steel vehicle that grandly rolls to your table. The chef carves your slice while you watch.

This is the perfect place for our annual LA Noirish dinner or maybe Philippe the Original... the home to the famous French Dipped Sandwich [$$]. .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps6e519009.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps696a50f4.jpg
Lawry's images

GaylordWilshire Jun 15, 2014 8:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6619385)
On the left of the photo on the wall of the parking lot is painted in script what appears to read "The Simpson's of America," which is not in the other photo above. If that's what it says, does anyone know what that might mean?

Probably a reference to Simpson's in the Strand, London. Lots of meat.

jefn Jun 15, 2014 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm (Post 6619051)
Fascinating stuff, e_r! I'm almost positive that this house was occupied in the early 1990s by a co-worker of mine back then. He used to have pictures of it on his website, but evidently he's moved to another part of the country and took down his pictures of this house. Or maybe I simply couldn't find them.

I'll let him know about your post as he'd probably be interested.


Yup, it's me. I lived there for a little more than 19 years.

I cobbled together a page of some of my own photos of the house at 1190 Country Club Drive in Sunset Canyon above Burbank and posted it to my website: http://www.birdjanitor.com/1190.html


Jef


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