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GaylordWilshire May 10, 2014 1:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6571974)


Lucky find: There seemed to be no J. A. Pitch in L.A. CDs... but I did find a reference to one in the Times of November 30, 1925, living at 5401 La Cresta Court. He was referred to as a landlord, apparently owning several or all of the little houses in the neighborhood...which appears to be somewhat of a hidden jewel. Anyway, below is the house which once had a practically new '36 Ford in one of its front rooms:

http://i.imgur.com/VYOLZRM.jpg?1?8859


The driver's view moments before barrelling north on St. Andrews Place and climbing the steps of 5401...

http://i.imgur.com/bhceWiL.jpg?1?1596


I'd use my chainsaw on those annoying bushes, but then 5402 Monroe Avenue below gives you a good idea of what the little houses looked like before rampant, architecture-obscuring vegetation took hold in L.A....

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7...2520AM.bmp.jpg


Previous mayhem: The little noirish/James M. Cainish story that first led me to the neighborhood took place at 5402 Monroe...

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1...2520AM.bmp.jpgLAT Nov 30, 1925



http://i.imgur.com/6V1ayGb.jpg?1?7437


A blue shotgun streetsign from the past always suggests the noir era to me...

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-h...2520AM.bmp.jpg

ethereal_reality May 10, 2014 2:10 PM

:previous: Wow, good find GW!
La Cresta Court seems to have been frozen in time. I especially like how it's situated on that curve. Hidden gem indeed.
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HossC May 10, 2014 3:35 PM

I found this postcard of the Engstrum on eBay last night. Beaudry posted a slightly smaller version in post #1260. It made me wonder whether the Engstrum's setting ever really looked like this, or whether a few liberties were taken. My money's on the latter.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AEngstrum1.jpg
eBay

The following two pictures are from the LAPL. They show the Engstrum just behind the right side of the State Normal School. They also show the top of the Key West Rooms and Apartments/Hotel Key West that we discussed about a week ago.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AEngstrum2.jpg
LAPL

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AEngstrum3.jpg
LAPL

Finally, the advert below is from the 1942 CD, but this seems like a good excuse to post it.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...trumAdvert.jpg
LAPL

Martin Pal May 10, 2014 5:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6571647)
We've seen many photographs of the Hollywood Hotel over the years on NLA. Here's a photograph showing the aging hotel's
Highland Avenue side in 1952.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/841/lhov.jpg
ebay

-those first two cars need to turn into the nearest car wash.

Here's a similar view, also dated 1952. -originally posted by ChuckaLuck
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/836/q32m.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7998

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Since we have these great color shots of this Hollywood & Highland Corner, let's revisit Handsome Stranger's previous color addition, too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 5372263)
1941: Looking North on Highland Ave. from Hollywood Blvd.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J...252520BLVD.jpg
[source: eBay]

The other color photos in his post are dated 1948, but the above is 1941...

By the way, you can see this exact view and the entire 4 corners in some scenes (b&w) from the 1956 noir film MAN IN THE VAULT, referring to the Bank of America Building on the SE corner of Hollywood and Highland.

CityBoyDoug May 10, 2014 6:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6572520)
I found this postcard of the Engstrum on eBay last night. Beaudry posted a slightly smaller version in post #1260. It made me wonder whether the Engstrum's setting ever really looked like this, or whether a few liberties were taken. My money's on the latter.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AEngstrum1.jpg
eBay

The following two pictures are from the LAPL. They show the Engstrum just behind the right side of the State Normal School. They also show the top of the Key West Rooms and Apartments/Hotel Key West that we discussed about a week ago.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AEngstrum2.jpg
LAPL

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AEngstrum3.jpg
LAPL

Finally, the advert below is from the 1942 CD, but this seems like a good excuse to post it.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...trumAdvert.jpg
LAPL

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"Dear Mable:

The Engstrum hotel is not what I thought it would be. Their ad said it was ''spacious and modern''. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, the hotel didn't even look like the one in that old postcard.

See you soon. It'll be lovely to get back to Oxnard...there's so much fakery in Los Angeles.

Your sister, Dorothy

PS.....I didn't get the job at that dusty old Library, either."


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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psf23ec119.jpg

HossC May 10, 2014 8:37 PM

Another postcard found on eBay. The seller dates it as 1940s.
NB. The original images had some damage, especially the reverse side. I've done my best to restore them.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ertsMotel1.jpg

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ertsMotel2.jpg
eBay

e_r's original postcard of Albert's Motel, along with GSV images, can be found here.

ethereal_reality May 11, 2014 12:38 AM

Here's an interesting interior I don't think we've seen before on NLA.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/843/fc76.jpg
ebay


The address on the postcard places the cafeteria in the green terra-cotta tiled Sun Realty Building, designed by Claude Beelman in 1930.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/841/4qk6.jpg
GSV

but as I look again at the interior of the cafeteria, I believe it's a distinct possibility the postcard predates Beelman's 1930 building.
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HossC May 11, 2014 1:07 AM

:previous:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6572938)

...or does the Colonial Cafeteria predate Beelman's 1930 building?

The City Directories would seem to suggest that the Colonial Cafeteria moved when the Sun Realty Building was constructed:

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ColonialCD.jpg
LAPL

HossC May 11, 2014 1:09 AM

I can find several mentions of Montgomery Clift on NLA, but none for the Hotel Clift on Second and Figueroa Streets. The postcard below is from 1931.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...otelClift1.jpg

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...otelClift2.jpg
eBay

The Hotel Clift appears nearly in the center of this 1936 picture.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...otelClift3.jpg
USC Digital Library

Although the hotel building appears to have survived the construction of the Harbor Freeway (just out of shot to the left on the image below), it didn't survive the clearance of Bunker Hill. Here's how the same intersection looks today.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...otelClift4.jpg
Google Maps

ethereal_reality May 11, 2014 1:16 AM

:previous: That 1936 aerial is amazing HossC. I could look at it for hours.
So what are some of the other buildings in that view? (and no, I'm not feigning ignorance)

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ethereal_reality May 11, 2014 1:37 AM

Little girl with white muff and matching hat, Los Angeles.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/842/jwu0.jpg
ebay

So what is A.D.S. in the distance? -and who needs a muff in L.A.?
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ethereal_reality May 11, 2014 2:23 AM

This is quite mysterious.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/838/ryzl.jpg



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/838/0g7k.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/838/ji46.jpg
detail




This small Gilmore building seems oddly placed behind apartment buildings
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/842/x29m9.jpg
detail



reverse (I have no idea what this says)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/841/lrzg.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/843/04tu.jpg

I bet he was a spy. ;)

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ethereal_reality May 11, 2014 3:13 AM

pre-Hollywood Freeway

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/845/57hr.jpg
Richard Wojcik at https://www.facebook.com/VintageLosAngeles

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/834/0wyq.jpg
Richard Wojcik at https://www.facebook.com/VintageLosAngeles

ethereal_reality May 11, 2014 3:17 AM

...yet another accident.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/836/8esm.jpg
ebay

reverse/I can't quite make out what this says. Initially I thought it said the accident happened in Pleasure Cali.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/835/rbpr.jpg

CityBoyDoug May 11, 2014 3:43 AM

Merry Christmas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6571647)
:previous: -beautiful postcard scan
I like that the 'concave' center entrance has survived. (we've discussed this apt. before, but like you HossC, I wasn't able to find an earlier post)


We've seen many photographs of the Hollywood Hotel over the years on NLA. Here's a photograph showing the aging hotel's
Highland Avenue side in 1952.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/841/lhov.jpg
ebay

-those first two cars need to turn into the nearest car wash.






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You can tell this is December because the Christmas decorations are seen ''laying down in the street". See them?

CityBoyDoug May 11, 2014 3:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6573053)
...yet another accident.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/836/8esm.jpg
ebay

reverse/I can't quite make out what this says (except for 9th Street)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/835/rbpr.jpg

''Auto accident at 9th and Mesa...minor bruises & shock to woman in pleasure car ...Truck ? dead-"

Lorendoc May 11, 2014 4:49 AM

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;6573016]This is quite mysterious.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/838/ryzl.jpg

Translit:

"Y ego xozyaina est' Ford" - reklama Forda v Los-Anzhelose.

It says (not surprisingly):

" 'His owner has a Ford' - Ford advertisement in Los Angeles"

"Xozyain" means owner/boss/host/landlord/master.

(The reverse says the same thing.)

Lorendoc May 11, 2014 5:20 AM

At least something survived...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6573077)
''Auto accident at 9th and Mesa...minor bruises & shock to woman in pleasure car ...Truck ? dead-"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/836/8esm.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/kqI1oFB.jpg
GSV

Krell58 May 11, 2014 5:41 AM

reverse/I can't quite make out what this says (except for 9th Street)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/835/rbpr.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6573077)
''Auto accident at 9th and Mesa...minor bruises & shock to woman in pleasure car ...Truck ? dead-"

Truck completely destroyed.

HossC May 11, 2014 2:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6572961)

The Hotel Clift appears nearly in the center of this 1936 picture.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...otelClift3.jpg
USC Digital Library

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6572970)

That 1936 aerial is amazing HossC. I could look at it for hours.
So what are some of the other buildings in that view? (and no, I'm not feigning ignorance)

I've filled in as many names as I can from the 1936 CD.

Asher & Ponder are actually shown at 1261 S Figueroa in the 1936, but Al Asher is listed at 123 S Figueroa in 1938, and "Asher & Ponder" can be read on the wall when you zoom in.

One of the buildings below the La Salle is the Jennessee (formerly the Genesee) at 227 S Figueroa. On the opposite side of the street, I found an automotive repairer named R C Floyd at 220 S Figueroa, but I'm not sure which building that is. Just off the bottom right corner are the Raymond and the Tulsa at 240 and 244 S Figueroa.

The Liberty was formerly known as the Lue.

I couldn't find a name for 208 S Figueroa in the 1936 CD, but the Weygand is listed at that address from 1911 to 1932.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...otelClift5.jpg
USC Digital Library

Here's a ground-level view of the intersection from 1938. The Clift is on the left.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...otelClift6.jpg
USC Digital Library


FredH recently posted a color view of the Stanley just hanging on in 1965:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=21193


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