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ethereal_reality Apr 12, 2014 2:52 AM

topsy turvy...

freaky happy/sad pocket mirror.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/163/oioa.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/827/a6mb.jpg
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HenryHuntington Apr 12, 2014 3:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6536094)
I missed this detail altogether Albany NY.
The seller didn't included a date (other than 1960s) so I have no idea why there should be so much interest in this particular streetcar.

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Last day of service for L.A. streetcars was March 31, 1963, so the timing would have been approximately right. I strongly suspect that's what we're seeing here.

CityBoyDoug Apr 12, 2014 3:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6536107)
GW doesn't buy into this theory, so hold onto your hat CityBoyDoug.
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LOL....oh well, that's life.:):D:):D:D:notacrook:

Wig-Wag Apr 12, 2014 5:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6536094)
I missed this detail altogether Albany NY.
The seller didn't included a date (other than 1960s) so I have no idea why there should be so much interest in this particular streetcar.__

ER, HenryHuntington was correct that this was a fan trip. However, I believe this is an in service car on an excursion in February of 1963 that featured PCC 3101 (not shown).

Cheers,
Jack

GaylordWilshire Apr 12, 2014 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6536107)
GW doesn't buy into this theory, so hold onto your hat CityBoyDoug.
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Based on what I've read--including all the "My Father/Mother/Sister/Best Friend Killed the Dahlia" books--the only crime Hodel committed was siring a son who insists his father is a murderer/butcher, and one who's proud of it, and capitalizes on it. I'm with Larry Harnisch on this... still waiting for Buster the Wonder Dog.

http://ladailymirror.files.wordpress...our_theory.jpg

See http://ladailymirror.com/category/black-dahlia/

and

http://www.lmharnisch.com/intro.html

ethereal_reality Apr 12, 2014 4:36 PM

You have to admit though, George Hodel is a fascinating, if unsavory, character. And it's true he was on the list of Black Dahlia suspects.

Hodel was a child prodigy on the piano (composer Sergei Rachmaninoff came to the household to hear little George play).
George's parents commissioned Russian architect Alexander Zelenko to build a second house on their property for George's private use.

Los Angeles Times, Oct. 15, 1922
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/835/6bn8.jpg
http://www.latimes.com/


The Zelenko house, 6512 Walnut Hill Avenue
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/716/75qf.jpg
Oct. 15, 1922

(I typed 'Zelenko' as a search word and nothing came up on NLA)


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CityBoyDoug Apr 12, 2014 5:58 PM

Noir watercolor by Blair...
 
This painting of the Bunker Hill area by Preston Blair [1908-1995]seems to reflect a bit of noir.

Preston Blair was an American character animator, most noted for his work at Walt Disney Productions and the Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer animation department



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps0a4fd6f1.jpg

CityBoyDoug Apr 12, 2014 6:22 PM

Murder as art?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6536609)
You have to admit though, George Hodel is a fascinating, if unsavory, character. And it's true he was on the list of Black Dahlia suspects.

Hodel was also a child prodigy on the piano (composer Sergei Rachmaninoff came to the household to hear little George play).
George's parents commissioned Russian architect Alexander Zelenko to build a second house on their property for George's private use.

Los Angeles Times, Oct. 15, 1922
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/835/6bn8.jpg
http://www.latimes.com/


The Zelenko house, 6512 Walnut Hill Avenue
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/716/75qf.jpg
Oct. 15, 1922

(I typed 'Zelenko' as a search word and nothing came up on NLA. -nevertheless this little house seems familiar)


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Murder suspect Dr. George Hodel was a friend of artist Man Ray.

Here is a link that depicts various art pieces by Man Ray. Did Dr. Hodel dissect Elizabeth Short in a manner influenced by the art of Man Ray and Salvador Dali?


http://mondo-blogo.blogspot.com/2012...and-black.html


Art by Man Ray

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pse15e2348.jpg

rlrdrken Apr 12, 2014 6:26 PM

Not sure if this ever appeared in NLA but here goes. The first Elvis Impersonator

"The Near and Far Club" operated by Al and Mal Warner in Los Angeles.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-p1PBnfFpt_...0/IMG_0010.jpg

http://vintagesleaze.blogspot.com/20...l#.U0mES9GPLct

ethereal_reality Apr 12, 2014 6:39 PM

Mei Wah Drum Corp.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/835/i2g9.jpg
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HossC Apr 12, 2014 6:47 PM

According to the caption, this is the "Subway terminal parking garage" in 1926. It's on the corner of Olive and 4th, so the lamp post on the right is outside the entrance of the Fremont Hotel. Just out of shot on the left you'd have found the Hotel Clark Garage, Hotel Antlers, and the end of Clay Street. The photographer must've been standing outside the Mutual Garage. As well as the large adverts for the Yellow Cab Company, I also noticed the name Calpet Gasoline, which reminded me of the service station on Wilshire.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...iveGarage1.jpg
USC Digital Library

Since 1926, three corners of the intersection have changed beyond recognition, but not this one. The garage has been slightly remodeled, but is still recogizable. The buildings behind are also the same, although they've now got fake details included in the paintwork of the upper floors.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...iveGarage2.jpg
GSV

While I'm in the area, here's a picture from a year earlier (according to USC's dating) which looks up 4th from Hill. Just behind the Wright and Callender Building is the Hotel Sheldon - it had gone by the time the 1926 picture above was taken. Beyond the garage, most of the Fremont Hotel is visible. On the left, there's no sign of the Subway Terminal Building yet.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Callender1.jpg
USC Digital Library

Zooming in, here's a better view of the Hotel Sheldon. The garage appears to have been the Savoy Auto Park in 1925.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Callender2.jpg
Detail of picture above.

On the left of the Wright and Callender Building there's a sign for Turkish Baths. Looking through previous posts, it looks like 4th Street was the place to come for a Turkish bath!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Callender3.jpg
Detail of picture above.

ethereal_reality Apr 12, 2014 7:14 PM

:previous: -very interesting details HossC.



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/835/5p0e.jpg
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I thought perhaps GW could dig up an address with his vintage newspapers.

HossC Apr 12, 2014 8:10 PM

I've searched NLA, and can't find any previous mentions of property developer Isaac Newton Van Nuys' house at 1445 West 6th Street. USC date this picture at circa 1904.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ysMansion1.jpg
USC Digital Library

I found the address and the wider view below in an article titled Van Nuys--But He Didn't Live There.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ysMansion2.jpg
oldhomesoflosangeles.blogspot.com

The good news is that the house was subsequently moved to Windsor Square, and can still be found on the corner of Fourth Street and Lorraine Boulevard. A site called www.perrymasontvseries.com has screengrabs of the house appearing in two episodes of the show. IMDb also says it was used in an episode of 'Murder, She Wrote', the 2003 remake of 'Cheaper by the Dozen', and an episode of 'Scarecrow and Mrs. King' (see Moxie's SMK Forum post here).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ysMansion3.jpg
Google Maps

ethereal_reality Apr 12, 2014 8:39 PM

What in the world is this contraption at Cawson's Ostrich Farm!?!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/716/qcd8.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Photo-Ostric...item1e89f9b5dd


It's in the next pasture so it's really HUGE. I stared at this for a long time and can't figure it out.
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CityBoyDoug Apr 12, 2014 9:12 PM

Sun Power.....yeah.
 
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6536831)
What in the world is this contraption at Cawson's Ostrich Farm!?!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/716/qcd8.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Photo-Ostric...item1e89f9b5dd


It's in the next pasture so it's really HUGE. I stared at this for a long time and can't figure it out.
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This huge machine is a solar heater for a steam engine.

Cawston convinced Eneas [the inventor] to move to California (Eneas later set up his business, the Solar Motor Company, in downtown Los Angeles) and Eneas convinced Cawston to buy one of his machines for about $2,500.

Cawston wanted the motor so he could pump water onto his property. In the age before aqueducts, the area was "dry as a bone," said Kryza.

Eneas installed the six-story high apparatus on a sunny hillside in 1901. The device, which resembled a radar dish, was 33 feet in diameter at its widest point and lined with 1,788 mirrors. The mirrors funneled the sun's rays onto a boiler containing 1,000 gallons of water. The resulting steam was used to power an engine that pumped between 1,400 and 1,500 gallons of water a minute from a deep well on the farm. The dish was attached to a track on a supporting tower so it could be kept trained on the sun.


The monstrous magnifier only heightened the farm's exotic quality. "No extra charge to see the Solar Motor!," declared printed handbills. "The only machine of its kind in the world in daily operation! 15-horsepower engine worked by the heat of the sun!"


Test for type size.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pse1ca510f.jpg

Ninja55 Apr 12, 2014 10:54 PM

[IMG]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5146/...0f97b09f53.jpgSCAN1071 by ZX14r, on Flickr[/IMG][IMG]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5067/...a4e1086c35.jpgSCAN1070 by ZX14r, on Flickr[/IMG][IMG]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5104/...832ca69730.jpgSCAN1069 by ZX14r, on Flickr[/IMG][IMG]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7292/...bff0b13f12.jpg6300 wilshire blvd. Los Angeles, Ca by ZX14r, on Flickr[/IMG]

Joe Musso married my grandma Emma Rovere Scaramuzzi, sister of Bert Rovere. As you all know, Joe was the "Musso" of the original Musso and Franks restaurant. He left his interest in that restaurant and opened up his own place which remained until his death in 1946. Unfortunately, his beautiful place on Wilshire is long gone.

Moxie Apr 12, 2014 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6536812)
I've searched NLA, and can't find any previous mentions of property developer Isaac Newton Van Nuys' house at 1445 West 6th Street. USC date this picture at circa 1904.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ysMansion1.jpg
USC Digital Library

I found the address and the wider view below in an article titled Van Nuys--But He Didn't Live There.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ysMansion2.jpg
oldhomesoflosangeles.blogspot.com

The good news is that the house was subsequently moved to Windsor Square, and can still be found on the corner of Fourth Street and Lorraine Boulevard. A site called www.perrymasontvseries.com has screengrabs of the house appearing in two episodes of the show. IMDb also says it was used in an episode of 'Murder, She Wrote', the 2003 remake of 'Cheaper by the Dozen', and an episode of 'Scarecrow and Mrs. King' (see Moxie's SMK Forum post here).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ysMansion3.jpg
Google Maps

Thanks for the shout out, Hoss. :) As I scrolled down the page and saw the b&w photos I thought the house looked awfully familiar, but the landscape was all wrong. I didn't realize it was one of the houses that was moved. Always great having new info on one of "my" locations. ;)

Tetsu Apr 13, 2014 1:57 AM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6534880)
Great find, Tetsu. I went to check Historic Aerials, and it looks like the original grounds with the large lawn survived into the '50s. I'm afraid I couldn't make this 1954 image any clearer. By the '70s there were other houses in what had been the grounds, and the gardens were significantly reduced in size.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ansion1954.jpg
Historic Aerials

Thanks HossC (and e_r too). Surprising that the gardens survived without the property being subdivided for even that long.

Tetsu Apr 13, 2014 2:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6535838)
http://homeshoothome.net/wp-content/...05/1900_59.jpgcredit link


Tetsu-- Fantastic find, I'm amazed, & can't thank you enough for finding the Max Linder movie house. Looks like it's in great shape. A lot of pictures of the house today are here. I've been looking for more vintage shots, and info on who built it, the architect, etc. So far, no luck. Anyone?

And thanks for your aerial, Hoss.

Thanks! I was gonna ask the same thing as far as architect & original owner. Surprisingly elusive info for a home of this scale. Of the local architects who could possibly have designed it, I'd wonder about Marston, van Pelt, and Maybury or possibly Joseph J. Blick. Just guesses on my part though.

ethereal_reality Apr 13, 2014 3:18 AM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/716/qcd8.jpg
Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6536845)
The inventor Eneas installed the six-story high apparatus on a sunny hillside in 1901. The device, which resembled a radar dish, was 33 feet in diameter at its widest point and lined with 1,788 mirrors. The mirrors funneled the sun's rays onto a boiler containing 1,000 gallons of water. The resulting steam was used to power an engine that pumped between 1,400 and 1,500 gallons of water a minute from a deep well on the farm. The dish was attached to a track on a supporting tower so it could be kept trained on the sun.

Thanks very much CBD....sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction.
(you should consider using this normal size type. It doesn't feel like you're yelling at us.) -just a suggestion.


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