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Here's an intriguing page out of a family photograph album.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/FGjiJ4.jpg
eBay

Far right column: The home of cousin Maggie and George Young overlooking Hollywood, Los Angeles Calif.

If you look closely at the top right photograph there appears to be three street numbers on the porch (to Maggie's right / our left)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/sf6MCm.jpg
detail




In the next photograph George is thinking, "I really need to fix that porch step."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/4JaZa2.jpg
detail







Now let's move our attention to the photographs on the left side of the album page.


If you look closely at the top home(?) there is an intriguing sign to the right of the house that appears to say HEAL. . .or MEAL?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/5LWIin.jpg
detail




Now let's look at the remaining two photographs that show another home. There is writing on both photographs. (refer back to the album page)



To ease any eye discomfort here is a closer look at the writing.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/SDzElY.jpg
detail

As you can see, the top says Dunel's or Dukel's(?) Plaza. The writing below is more difficult to read.
The Pa. made me think Pennsylvania. . .so what's up with that? :shrug:


Good luck!
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Cousin Maggie and George Young's house.


https://i.imgur.com/0RoVagt.jpg
rescarta.lapl.org


803 Hyperion Avenue these days -

https://i.imgur.com/I7dQnBv.jpg
Google Maps

Methinks lil entry reads "Drexel"

Excellent finding that house Noir_Noir!

No relation to the "Carl's Jr." chain we know today I guess. Different Carl? :koko:

Anybody know where this is?....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

From an episode of "Burke's Law" broadcast 12/27/63....this expanse of lawn serves as a croquet training facility for comely young women....



This really does not add much to our location i.d. effort, just wanted to spice up the thread with a leggy brunette....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds



The instructor is Ken Murray, he of the "Blackouts" show that occupied the El Capitan Theatre for over 10 years....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds



Murray gets a little behind in his work....there's a Texaco nearby...

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds



Gene Barry.....maybe "used cars" below the Texaco sign?.....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds


The complete show is here....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJgB...nsHollyMartins

^^^^

Ken Murray probably couldn't get away with that amount of contact today. He would be banished and never seen again.

As far as where the photos were taken, I believe I recognize the rounded top hill in the top picture. It is in Santa Monica Mountains (Hollywood Hills) south of Ventura Blvd. in the Valley, perhaps near Laurel Canyon/Ventura Blvd. I think CBS used to have a production lot around there near Ventura Blvd. Was Burke's Law a CBS show? Gene Barry has a "what am I doing here?... I should have been a big film star by now" look in the lower pic. He did a pretty good job in 1953's classic "War of the Worlds" playing a scientist as L.A. faced the wrath of the Martians.

As CaliNative says it's Laurel Canyon/Ventura Blvd - CBS Studio Center in Studio City.

The rigorous croquet training is happening on the lawn that was in front of the offices on Radford Avenue.

Seen here to the left in 1960.

https://i.imgur.com/imhIhxj.jpg
tessa.lapl.org

Well the orchid corsage does add some poignancy....


https://i.postimg.cc/DZw86ThS/bodyroof1.pnghttps://i.postimg.cc/fTDTfsvD/bodyroofart1.png

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The site of that crash is now on the runway at Long Beach Airport.


Lakewood Blvd/Spring St. in 1956.

https://i.imgur.com/ZdhEFoA.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu


https://i.imgur.com/8yE3VKR.jpg
Google Maps

As Noir_Noir points out it's CBS's primary location in "Hollywood" now after they moved out of Columbia Square on Sunset and have sold CBS Television City. CBS2 and sister station KCAL9 currently reside there. It was formerly Republic Pictures and Mack Sennett built the studio in 1928.

FWIW: Burke's Law was from Four Star Productions and used the lot for its three seasons. (1963-1966.) The 3rd year the series was called Amos Burke Secret Agent. You'll often see Amos being chauffeured around on Ventura Blvd., as well as Sunset Blvd. Four Star also produced the Honey West series there, 1965-66, spun off from an episode of Burke's Law.They both aired on ABC. Both of these series have episodes that used the Gilligan's Island lagoon. When Get Smart was moved to CBS for its final season they moved production to this lot from Paramount Studios. Combat, on ABC, moved it's final season there, 1966-67, too, from MGM.

"The Graduate" houses....where?
 

The Graduate is always an entertaining film to watch, more than 50 years after it was filmed. I always assumed Ben's house and the Robinson's house was somewhere in an affluent section of west L.A. or maybe Bev. Hills, or perhaps an affluent section of the Valley near Ventura. But a friend said the fictional setting of the The Graduate and possible actual setting of the houses was in an affluent section of Pasadena or the San Gabriel Valley. I also read somewhere that the "Santa Barbara" Church on "Allen St." at the end was actually a church in the San Gabriel valley. can anybody shed light on the actual fiming and fictional setting of "The Graduate"? P.S....the "U.C. Berkeley" scenes were actually filmed at USC!

IMDB says the church was the United Methodist Church in La Verne, the Robinson house is 607 N. Palm in Beverly Hills. They filmed a lot of the college scenes at U$C, but also filmed a bit at Berkeley and UCLA(Royce Hall).

They could be correct about the church but I always advise skepticism of any information found on IMDb. I tried for years to correct my record there; they credit me on films and TV shows that I had nothing to do with, and they refuse to add my credits to shows I did work on. Also I've seen several "trivia" items that are ludicrously wrong. I tried correcting some of those as well, to no avail.

They are correct about the church, I looked at the stills and looked at the Googlemobile and that's the church. As far as the house goes, don't know for sure.

IMDb is easy to fake with.

My cousin, an actor in films, is listed as deceased in a ''road accident in CA".

In fact, his parents, whom I knew, were very embarrassed that he actually died of AIDS in New York city....therefore they changed his IMDb bio.

When Ben arrives at Santa Barbara he's on Highway 101 and takes the San Ysidro exit at Montecito. You can see the distinctive blue rooftiles of the Miramar Hotel across the highway. Problem is, he's going north on 101. Coming from San Francisco, he should have been going south.

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It's interesting that the outside staircase is missing in the Google street view of the church. It was there in the Wayne's World 2 homage to The Graduate, so I surmise that was added for both movies; in the first case to drive the plot (is there really a need for both indoor and outdoor stairs, except for the unlikely event that the main doors are closed at a wedding, and you want to get your hero in the balcony?) and in the second for verisimilitude.

The freeway exit here is different from the original, but they did choose a spot where mountains, rather than the beach, are on the left.

Wayne's World 2 clip (sorry 'bout the sorta-nudity):
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Article:

https://capitalandmain.com/the-histo...o-the-pandemic

In the scene where Ben is crossing the Bay Bridge from SF going to Berkeley he is on the upper deck, which is actually the deck going in the opposite direction to SF. These little errors don't really ruin the movie, which I can watch every year or two. And the music of S&G is GREAT.

Ben was & is a hero to aimless college students and graduates, but as I age I root more for Mrs. Robinson. Ben was a spoiled n'er do well floating in his parent's pool. But Ben still holds the record for most car trips on the 101 between L.A. and SF/Berkeley in the shortest time. I guess Interstate 5 hadn't opened yet. I think I once made the trip in less than 5 hours.

P.S.--the hotel where they meet seems like the Hollywood Roosevelt to me, although they call it something different.

Never fails to amuse: "Ben, are you listening? ....Plastics". Typifies the '60s. Today it would be "Ben, are you listening? ...Bitcoin".

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I was sure that we'd explored the locations of The Graduate here at NLA before, but no luck in a search.

The Robinsons' house was at 607 N Palm in BH ("Glenview Road" in the movie)

https://i.postimg.cc/HWM5g0b2/robinsonhouse-bmp.jpg

It looked better whitewashed in the film--and from an angle closer to the street rather than from atop the google truck. I think you see more of the half-timbering on the chimney in the movie and instead of a Range Rover Mr. Robinson drove Elaine (who got started in the back seat of a Ford) back up to Cal in a '67 Continental (as Mrs. R trailed forlornly after the car as it left the driveway, her ravishing of Ben having been revealed). I wouldn't call Ben a ne'r do well-- I mean, he won the Frank Helpingham award, after all. I think he was supposed to have graduated from a Little Ivy like Williams. PS At least one real estate description refers to 607 N Palm as the work of Paul Williams, but I haven't been able to find any verification of this...maybe it was mixed up with 707 N Palm, which was definitely designed by Williams.

CaliNative-- while I might defend Ben, I also have been struck over years of reviewings by Mrs. R's plight. Anne Bancroft did a great job conveying it when Ben asked her what her major had been and she said art and he said I guess you lost interest over the years and she sighed, "Kind of."

I've read somewhere that the pool scenes at the Braddocks' house were filmed at 607 N Palm...something like that.

And I'm pretty sure the hotel lobby scenes were filmed at the Ambassador.


https://i.postimg.cc/HktW4nXX/graduatechurch-bmp.jpg

D Street, La Verne. Do you suppose that cross is the one Ben used to lock the doors?


https://i.postimg.cc/HkTdxmRx/graduatebus.jpg

I thought so, too. And I know once I mentioned that the strip club scene from The Graduate was filmed at The Galaxy, 8917 Sunset Blvd. I couldn't find that in a search either. :shrug:

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You can type something like this into google:

site:skyscraperpage.com noirish "the graduate"

The first hit says the Knickerbocker Hotel in Hollywood was the site of Ben and Mrs. Robinson's first romantic encounter.

Hint: replace the word "showpost" with "showthread" in the URLs to see the posts in context.

Thanks for your help Noir Noir. I really appreciate it. :)


Ever since I found the Young photographs, I've wondered why the street address is on the side of the porch instead of the front.
(unless that little sign isn't the street address)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/h3OzfG.jpg

It made a little more sense once I noticed that the garage (toward the back of the house) is facing an unknown side-street.







If you look at the aerial (below) you can see, what must be one of the shortest street in L.A., ADRIAN ST. I believe this is the street the garage faced.

Maggie & George's house is circled in red.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/LWtpyD.jpg
google-earth

It's a dead-end now, but I imagine it was once a through street (to Hyperion) back in the days of Maggie & George.


If the house was a duplex it might have also had an Adrian Street address.


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Wikipedia says this about the early days of Carl's Jr:

"In 1945, the Karchers moved the short distance to Anaheim, California, and opened their first full-service restaurant, Carl's Drive-In Barbecue at 1108 N. Palm St. (now Harbor)...

In 1956, Karcher opened the first two Carl's Jr. restaurants – so named because they were a smaller version of Carl's Drive-In Barbecue restaurant – in Anaheim and Brea."

So in the late '40s & early '50s, there was the growing Carl's/Carl's Jr. enterprise in Orange County, Carl's on Figueroa, and Carl's At The Beach in Pacific Palisades, all apparently unrelated.

I think since then it has been established that the Ambassador was used as the "Taft" in The Graduate, or at least as inspiration for sets. There are probably online experts on this, but here are a few comparisons of detail:


https://i.postimg.cc/7YxqyBHS/graduateambdesk-bmp.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/nrV774Jg/graduate1-bmp.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/SxVWStb8/graduatebuckhy-bmp.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/hv9dH20X/gradua...detail-bmp.jpg

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This colorful original slide was recently listed on eBay



Charles Luckman & Associates, 9220 Sunset Blvd. Los Angeles California [1962]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/ECl7Mq.jpg

What we're seeing here is. .umm. . .the parking lot?

If I'm not mistaken Luckman's mid-century office was gone less than two years after this 1962 slide was taken.
I say this because the high-rise building that took its place was built in 1964. (according to redfin).

1/2 hour later:

Here's a second scenario:...The date on the slide is incorrect and the Charles Luckman and Associates offices were located in the new high-rise tower....(?)...Does anyone know?



P.S...I believe the slide was taken because of the flowers.... Why do I say this? Slides by this same amateur photographer are mostly flower-centric)

oops

So the body found on the roof was first believed to be a woman until it was learned that the victim was a man dressed in woman's clothing with a corsage pinned to his dress? Mercy! That is certainly an interesting twist. This was in 1953. Wonder where the victim tended bar?

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Victim's residence, 1241 Dawson Avenue, Long Beach:

https://i.postimg.cc/FFVyVwyW/1241-Dawson.jpg
gsv

The residence had had drama previously:

https://i.postimg.cc/FsFjWGG9/1241-D...1938-11-23.jpg
LA Times, 11/23/1938

and

https://i.postimg.cc/JzGjmn9v/1241-D...1947-12-12.jpg
LA Times, 12/12/1947

5900 Normandie Avenue.


https://i.imgur.com/2XXcs7x.jpg
Google Maps

Window and door security bars and bricked up windows.

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I've gone through every past post that mentions "Effie" (there were a lot of them!) and I didn't see the following images.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/wkAlwU.jpg
CSUN








https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/UaFOYf.jpg
CSUN








https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/cGoH6W.jpg
CSUN

At first I thought the images were pneumonic plague photographs that we saw in the early years of NLA. (they're not)

If interested, or if you're a newbie, you can find the amazing plague photographs from 1924 Here. (377 images! Lots of rats!)



for search purposes: panoramic view from the corner of bishop and effie streets showing the property of charles e. johnson of 1705 pine street -
about 25 shacks can be seen from this vantage point - almost all of them have been illegally constructed without any building permits. - inspector myers 1-18-1938

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For those as mystified as myself by "the corner of Bishop Road and Effie Streets," here, from a very useful but undated Bekins map (only clue to date is, perhaps, the map's mention of "Population 175,000") which I have is a detail of the locale in question:

https://i.postimg.cc/NG5xRJKX/Effie001.jpg
Bekins map, odinthor collection

Effie Street Search
 

Thanks, Odinthor, I went searching also. My conclusion was that those streets were "rearranged" by the Harbor Freeway and Dodger Stadium constructions. Great map!

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The intersection is at the center of this 1938 aerial (taken about seven weeks after e_r's photos). The location is now a parking lot to the north of Dodger Stadium. The reservoir in the lower-right corner is still there to give you a point of reference.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...fieBishop1.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

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Thanks for the maps, odinthor & HossC. :) They helped quite abit.



Now how about LeRoy Street? (in 1938)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/yHByNA.jpg
CSUN

for search purposes: 313-35 LeRoy Street - Exterior view of the house court - Frank Childs, owner 48 apartments - 2 rooms each - without gas - electricity - kitchen sinks or any plumbing inside the building.



Sadly, two additional photographs are missing. They probably showed the court area.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/qR4deP.jpg

If I eventually find them as. .say. .miscellaneous photographs, I'll make sure to post them and link them back to the top photo.

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Ah, good ol' Leroy Street! Beautiful to look at, lovely to stroll:

https://i.postimg.cc/7ZfFJMgY/Leroy001.jpg
Much enlarged detail, Bekins Map ca. 1905?, odinthor collection; going by historical population count, the map with its "Population 175,000" would seem to date to somewhere around 1905.

Thanks, Noir Lady, and Welcome!

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For me, photos don't mean a lot until they have at least the context of location . . . and so my first interest is always in seeing where they are, what areas adjoin, what streets are near, to get an idea of what the location is all about. And then I move on to wondering What happened there, who lived there, what were their stories???--and so on.

Here is the "now" version of 313 Leroy. It is part of the William Mead housing project.

https://i.imgur.com/sErq0YR.jpg
GSV

I made a post about this neighborhood 4 years ago here.

As on the ca. 1905 Bekins map, some of the names are obscured, I thought it might be useful to Noirishers to also see another map of this area with its tiny streets, from the 1955 Renie Atlas for the various Southern California counties:

https://i.postimg.cc/zfQGz8Rf/SPYARD-No.jpg
odinthor collection, Detail from Renie Atlas, 1955 ed., much enlarged.

Many of the streets have names which resonate with those who have read the city's newspapers of the latter part of the 1800s: Naud, Weyse, Schieffelin, Moulton, Baker, and so on.

Lamar Street
 

I remember 2 series of posts on Lamar Street...

For those interested in the beginnings of recently-mentioned Effie Street:

https://i.postimg.cc/DyMtCgHt/Effie-LAT-1898-11-26.jpg
LA Times, 11/26/1898.

But--just who was Effie???

:shrug:

Effie Perine. Her daughter, also called Effie, moved to San Francisco and got a job working for the detective agency of Spade & Archer as a secretary.

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

Cheers,

Earl

This mystery photo has not been placed, but I finally found another picture that looks like it was taken from Edd Byrnes' house. The railing is the same, anyway. Recall that it is reportedly in Coldwater Canyon somewhere. He also described his house as "Chinese modern"

https://i.postimg.cc/prrRBLqb/Edd-Byrnes-railing.jpg

ebay

This won't be much help, but it also shows a view outside with apparently the same railing:
https://i.postimg.cc/CLq6Qrmn/Edd-Byrnes-Double-Pic.jpg
ebay

And the rain gutter and the board below it matches this photo.
https://i.postimg.cc/hth8YXSy/Edd-Byrnes-Jaguar.jpg
eBay

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Interesting information Mackerm :) but I thought we found Byrnes' address. (I probably no doubt have it confused with someone else's address)
'Chinese Modern' is always intriguing to me. I remember when I was very young our house in Illinois had 'Chinese Modern' lamps and brick-a-brac. (this would be around 1960-1965)


p.s.....not sure why I placed among some vines in commas. ....*slaps forehead*

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Mystery of the Acme Sequoia Lodge. 7-28-1942


When I hear Sequoia I think Northern California but this photograph shows a group of men, and a few women, from the Southern California Tavern Owners Ass'n.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/HhY3qb.jpg
eBay (no longer listed)

The lodge looks absolutely amazing. . .built using heavy timber. The undulation that you see isn't the architecture it's due to the way the photograph was folded.

Like this.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/H4Iuwk.jpg


To me Acme seems like a rather odd choice for the name of a rustic lodge but back in 1942 it merely meant the "pinnacle" or the "top" with no connotations to Wile E. Coyote and the Road Runner. . . .giggle

I still think it's a shitty poor name for a lodge.




Obviously the July meeting could have taken place in Northern California but if you look at the back you will see that the photography company is from Los Angeles. (619 N. Windsor Boulevard)
There's also a name and address penciled in that says C.C. Davidson, 3917 S. Vermont.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/n2QH8f.jpg




Lastly, let's take a closer look at the label on the front.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/dF7TKf.jpg

Is that Robert Benchley?


Does anyone have an idea where the Acme Sequoia Lodge was (is) located?


P.S. If you look closely at the photograph all the beer glasses are empty. . .might explain some of the frowns. (solemnity of the moment

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/yh2ug2.jpg
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Acme
 

Could be wrong but ACME was a popular beer in So.Cal during those years, maybe they were hosting the bar owners? :cheers: I just found this, In partnership with its Southern California agent, Bohemian Distributing Co., Acme built a plant in Los Angeles (Vernon) at 2080 East 49th St. The brewery was positioned between Bohmeian's headquarters and the Sequoia Lodge, which was the hospitality center for two operations. The plant operated as the Acme Brewing Co. from its opening in June of 1935.

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Not a great quality picture, I tried to tweak it a little. I think this is the Acme Sequoia Lodge in the foreground next to the brewing plant on East 49th Street in Vernon.


https://i.imgur.com/rhNmaDl.jpg
brewerygems.com

Interestingly it is a racially integrated group. Unusual for 1942.