I did not know this place used to be a Tiny Naylor's. I always knew it as the Beverly Hills Cafe, I believe. METRO has this area demolished right now, working on a subway stop.

FYI: Something I noticed.

The website Old L.A. Restaurants is shutting down. We've posted info, probably photos, from there on NLA before.

https://oldlarestaurants.com

Here's the explanation FYI:

Special Announcement

Old L.A. Restaurants
I have decided to close down this website. If you’re interested to know why, here’s the explanation…

When I put this site up in 2012, it took many, many long hours of configuration to get it the way I wanted it. That meant writing what they call a “theme” for it that would put this over here, that over there, the comments down there, etc. That’s the general look of the pages. Over the years though, the software that runs this site — WordPress — has been updated continuously and the most recent update doesn’t seem to work right with my 2012 template.

Suddenly, the comments — which are the whole point of this site — didn’t show. They were there but they didn’t show up on the pages you see. Some fine technicians and I spent a lot of time trying to solve this and we got it to the point where it would show comments up to the end of 2019 and it stopped there. I couldn’t get anything newer than that to display unless I rewrote the whole template/theme…and frankly, I don’t have the time to do that. Even if I did, I don’t remember all that I knew about doing that in 2012 and I’m also pretty sure that the technology has changed a lot since then.

So I’ve decided to give it up.

Please do not attempt to post any comments here. No one will see them. The site in its broken condition will remain online for a while and I will be transferring the articles I wrote about various old restaurants to my main website:

www.newsfromme.com

Around the end of 2020, this page will go away completely. [IT'S STILL THERE AS OF THIS POST TODAY.]

I want to thank everyone who contributed over the years and I hope you enjoyed reading all the comments as much as I did. — Mark Evanier

Thanks. Can't live well without good vino or good beer. :cheers:

General rule--Nobody called "Tiny" weighs less than 300 pounds. Any old pics of "Tiny" Naylor?

My mother was Irish and my father was a Scot. Both were charter members of Sons of Italy Lodge 2076 in Anaheim (long story). Growing up, I didn't know anyone who didn't drink! :cheers:

Thanks for your excellent post and research, Snix. :worship:
I didn't realize Eddie Arcaro was a business associate of 'Tiny' Naylor.




But what about Fats Domino and Minnesota Fats?...:shrug:......(I'm kidding)



CaliNative, I've been looking but as of yet, no dice. ...I guess it would help if I knew 'Tinys' real first name. (does anyone know?)



No 'Tiny' but. . .

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/5hnoXG.jpg
UCLA Archive

. . .here's Eddie Arcaro (middle, top), Johnny Longden (left) and Willie Shoemaker (ight) posing with Jayne Mansfield at the Jockey's Ball in los Angeles, 1957.



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Wikipedia gives his full name as William Wallace "Tiny" Naylor.

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From the Find-a-Grave entry for William Wallace Naylor:

"Founder of the Googie-style Tiny Naylor's Coffee Shops (1957) and Biff's (1948; named for his son). Dubbed "Tiny" due to his 6'4", 320 lbs. stature. He is credited for having developed the Patty Melt hamburger sandwich." https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...wallace-naylor

I'd like to see a photo of him standing next to some jockeys.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...bcbae267_z.jpg
Mirror News 8/18/59
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e5f49715_z.jpg
Los Angeles Times 9/26/71

Good sleuthing Snix. The hazards of being a restaurant owner...downing too many delicious patty melts. Naylor's connection with jockey great Arcaro now clear...Naylor bred and owned race horses. Maybe Arcaro rode some of Tiny's mounts? Naylor looks a bit like the pre-bearded Orson Welles when he made the noir classic "Touch of Evil" in the late '50s.

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The advantage of being a diminutive jockey...being at chest level with Jayne Mansfield. Shoemaker on the right resembled a "mini me" version of Johnny Carson. Arcaro to the top left of Jayne must be standing on a stool. No jockey is that tall.

Some nicknames (maybe most) are based on reality. Generally people called "Slick", or "Tex", or "Swifty" or "Shorty" are that. But it has been my experience that most "Tiny's" I have met are anything but. By the way, never get in a poker or pool game with a "Tex" or a "Slick" or a "Fast". You will lose.

Jayne was supposed to be quite smart, anything but a "dumb blonde" (Jayne started off as a brunette). But I have also met many smart blondes in my life, and many beautiful women are also smart. Austrian-American film beauty Hedy Lamarr invented radio "frequency hopping" during WW2...google it. Hair color or beauty or race or sex are unrelated to intelligence. Poor Jayne died young in a terrible car wreck in the mid '60s

My favorite Hedy Lamarr quote:

"Any girl can look glamorous. All you have to do is stand still and look stupid."

Cheers,

Earl

That's Hedly.

Indeed. The two most erotic films from the early pre-code era of film in my opinion are Hedy's nude swim in "Ecstasy" (*) and Maureen O'Sullivan's nude swim in one of the early "Tarzan" films ("Tarzan and His Mate"?). :tup:

(*Ecstasy may have been made in Austria after the code was instituted in the U.S., so I believe it's release in the U.S. was banned. Correct me if I'm wrong)

Are there any other good erotic films from the pre-code era that I have missed? Any with Barbara Stanwyck that show significant skin? I like the early sweeter Barbara over the later harder cynical version, but I do of course love noir classic "Double Indemnity", with great performances by Stanwyck, MacMurray and Edward G. Robinson. MacMurray was also great as the villainous boss in Wilder's later film "the Apartment". The antithesis of the My Three Sons dad. Barb had one of the longest careers in HoWo, from the 1920s to the 1980s ("the Thornbirds").

Lamarr died in January 2000 at 85, but even as her end drew near, she was still inventing things: a fluorescent dog collar, modifications for the supersonic Concorde airliner, and a new kind of stoplight. After her death, her son, Anthony Loder, said that she would be pleased with the legacy of her “frequency hopping” concept: “She would love to be remembered as someone who contributed to the well-being of humankind.”

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An original negative of the Minnewaska was just listed on eBay.


This is an original vintage negative by Chinese-American photographer Doris Nieh. From her personal archive. The photographer's note on the sleeve:
"Los Angeles, March 1962".

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/t02hip.jpg
eBay



A bit more on Doris.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/TiRZMW.jpg
clinteastwoodarchive

Nieh was born on September 10th, 1936 (I'm not sure where) and died on December 25th, 2002 at the age of 66. She had been residing in Los Angeles County, California.




We've only seen one other photograph by Doris Nieh....A parking lot. HERE


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The documentary "Bombshell: The Hedy Lamarr Story" by Alexandra Dean is available on Netflix DVD and I recommend it highly.

Cheers,

Earl

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There was a group of fairly mediocre slides of Chinatown (1959) on eBay several week ago. But stuck in the middle of the group there were three more interesting slides of a separated location(s).
I believe the eBay seller thought all the slides were all of Chinatown.


The first two are of. .umm. .what I believe to be. . the alley-like court area downtown but I can't think of the name of it.

A European style flower shop and, what appears to be, a small cozy bar on the right.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/FzFy5Y.png
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The 2nd slide is the one that gave the location away.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/RiqKvj.jpg
eBay

I wonder what it says above the door directly under the bridge. That one shop might be a bicycle shop(?) perhaps :shrug:










This next one is a mystery.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/CMxWgF.jpg




The wall is vaguely oriental so perhaps this is Chinatown. :shrug: but I don't remember an Al Fresco dining area with modern looking whicker chairs.





Just for fun let's take a closer look at that little rendevouz spot.

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If anyone wants to see the three Chintown slides I'll post them as well.
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I would like to!



Also, it's too bad he put the watermark (the "L" of the word slide) over the blade sign. It looks like that is eminently readable.


Dated 1962 and the sign on the building says "Furnished Apartments Newly Decorated." Wasn't it apparent at that time this building was going to be eliminated? The fire was in August, 1964. Would the building have remained but for the fire?

I found this in my LAPL dump but I can't find the context

Found it

https://tessa.lapl.org/cdm/singleite...id/41791/rec/1

Chinese tea garden offers sightseers relaxation
Photograph caption dated July 5, 1962 reads, "Guests enjoy the peaceful atmosphere of the Hong Kong tea garden."; This photograph series includes images #00075808-#00075811.

https://i.imgur.com/iqnZv0x.jpg

:previous: That appears to be "St. Vincent Court," in downtown LA. https://www.google.com/maps/place/St....2535307?hl=en



https://totally-la.com/wp-content/up...food-court.jpghttps://totally-la.com/wp-content/up...food-court.jpg





http://www.movie-locations.com/movie...ents-Court.jpghttp://www.movie-locations.com/movie...ents-Court.jpg





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When Hedy was romantically linked to Howard Hughes, the eccentric billionaire encouraged her inventions, especially in aircraft streamlining. Hughes told his design staff to listen to Hedy. She thought correctly that boxy aircraft could be faster if designed like streamlined fish, marine mammals and birds. Hughes may have passed along the suggestion to Lockheed. The revolutionary Lockheed Constellation may have been the result. Hughes owned TWA bought lots of Constellations. As you said, decades later the Concorde adopted the Constellation-like dolphin shaped arched fuselage and dipped nose.

Here they are, MP.

Chinatown 1959

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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/CuXzM2.jpg
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Donald Duck







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Mystery solved! Thanks westcork :)

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I don't recall seeing these bubble signs before....I wonder how long they lasted. :shrug:

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They remind me of something you might find at the (now defunct) Japanese Deer Park in Buena Park.





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Thank you! Much appreciated.

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Although battered and covered in dirt the bubble sign is still in place. ... As hard as it is to believe I was initially looking in the wrong place. ;)


Here's a pic. from 2016.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/2ZfCRA.jpg
laist



And from the googleman's perspective.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/qFtsA1.jpg


The oblong lightbulb makes me think one of the bubbles is missing entirely. . . .hmmm. . .or judging by the octogonal fixture it might have been a chinese lantern.*


* I just looked at the 2016 photo again and it was a lantern. (and a short distance away from the bubble sign)




Postscript:

Actually, there are two sparate bubble signs. One along Hill Street and the other closer to the pagoda tower.



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/RC9D1x.jpg
google earth






Looking out to N. Hill Street.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/cxLCPg.jpg
google man view


Have we discussed that empty lot next to the bubble signs?..I checked old street views and it's been vacant sice the earliest days of the googlemobile.


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I found a few more from LAPL. This is on Gin Ling Way. Google Street View shows the circular frame is still there. I find it odd that I don't remember these globes.

https://i.imgur.com/P91lJ8J.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/t4oG2qe.jpg

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Wait, there's more!

So judging by the location of the bubble sign in westcork's photograph. (below)

July 5, 1962

https://i.imgur.com/iqnZv0x.jpg




The al fresco dining area was located in the open-air rectangular area you see below. ...Today, it appears to be, a shitty looking flea market. . .

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/40UY9k.jpg







. . .located behind these high walls.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/K2CBZK.jpg
googleman






Let's take one last look at the 1959 slide for comparison.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/ROCjrq.jpg
eBay

Such a shame.





I'm finished beating this horse.
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The beatings will continue until moral improves!
Chinatown a week and a half ago...
You can see the sign for the restaurant/tea area on the right:

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...5H2K9Dr-X2.jpgby BillinGlendaleCA

And further to the east:
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...kxrNFC7-X2.jpgby BillinGlendaleCA

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds
artsy.net

For a change I'm posting a non-Ruscha image, but it's close, as the photo is by Dennis Hopper, Ed's good friend and patron....La Cienega Blvd. at Rosewood Ave., looking south....the Norm's restaurant is just out of frame on the left....undated but likely around 1960.



https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

The Sydney's and the building with the "Tax" sign are gone.

:previous:

Wow, that billboard mounting/scaffolding thingy on top of that roof looks like it's the same one from the older photo.

Forget it, e_r. It's Chinatown.

I know I used this before but I couldn't resist. :uhh:

1937
 

Just a precision : the action in "Chinatown" happens in 1937. This is not the Chinatown of the movie which was at Union Station. I guess it wasn't still fully cleared by then.

I admit I'm having some trouble visualizing this photo and it's probably due to the lens/depth of focus or something, but...we see the bus bench and the Rosewood Ave. sign. Then is that Rosewood Ave. and then the mailbox on the other side of Rosewood?

Today there is a bus bench and the Rosewood Ave. sign in the exact same spot. If that's the case, what I'm having trouble visualizing is the other side of the street. Rosewood Ave. crosses La Cienega and is north of Norm's. If the car in the center of the b&w photo (Corvair to left) is turning, it isn't onto Rosewood because it passed Rosewood.

Your current GSV photo lines up with the b&w photo, except the GSV is taken south of Rosewood.

:shrug:

Anyway, I happened to recently see this photo of Jeno Paulucci pulling Stan Freberg down La Cienega Blvd., also in 1960. Norm's can be seen in the background, upper left.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kq6XkfshQ.../unnamed-5.jpgPinterest

Stan Freberg's been mentioned on NLA before. I looked up (Wiki) Jeno Paulucci: Among other things, he was an entrepreneur and in the 1940's, Paulucci developed the Chun King line of canned Chinese food products. (Which might explain the rickshaw above?) Other brands included Jeno's (pizza & pizza rolls) and Michelina's (his mother's name). This AdAge article explains the photo above: Mr. Paulucci has always been a demanding client. In his 1988 autobiography, Mr. Freberg recalled a bet: Mr. Paulucci promised to pull the adman down Los Angeles' LaCienega Boulevard in a rickshaw if a commercial actually worked. Mr. Freberg won the bet and the rickshaw ride.

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Here's a nice looking home that appears to have been destroyed by the construction of the Santa Monica Freeway....:(



2923 W. 23rd St. Los Angeles ...rppc / postmarked 1913.

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Here's the reverse.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/SsCmTl.jpg







And the former location.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/FPbpCZ.jpg
google_earth

Note that it was almost on the same block as the South Seas House'.



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There's a good possibility we have seen this rppc (real photo postcard) of the French Village in Hollywood but it's so magnificent I thought it wouldn't hurt to see it again. :)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/bAoQ9z.jpg
worthpoint




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Since I'm on a roll. :)



Here's a good look at the seldom seen (so seldom seen that I didn't know it was there) fountain that graced the front entrance of the Garden Court Apartments in Hollywood. (now gone)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/u8TseB.jpg



Back in the early 1980s, shortly after moving to Los Angeles, I remember parking one evening in front of the Garden Court Apts. on Hollywood Blvd....The glass in all the windows was missing
and it was obvious there were squatters inside because you could see candles burning. I couldn't believe what I was seeing because the building, itself, was still quite beautiful.



for search purposes:....scenes on brown's pierce arrow tours...auditorium hotel..phones metropolitans 0502 / 4383.

Warner Oland & 1930 Laurel Canyon Blvd.
 

Does anyone have any vintage photos of 1930 Laurel Canyon Blvd?
The house was built for silent film star Warner Oland (who played Charlie Chan) in 1923.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Oland

It just came up for sale.
https://www.1930laurelcanyon.com/

I'm so curious why it has 2 front doors and if that is the original design?

https://assets.sothebyshomes.com/pho..._1800x1200.jpg

KoOr is it the Chaplan studios (now Henson studios) "English Village" at La Brea near Sunset? Probably not. The hills don't match. What is the street location of this "French Village"? The hills kind of look like those in or near Cahuenga Pass, maybe near the Hollywood Bowl?

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https://i.postimg.cc/yx7tLrwZ/Fr-Vil-LAT-26-6-6.jpg
LA Times, June 6, 1926

But it's looking to me as if this French Village never got built, and the pic is of the one up towards the Cahuenga Pass.

This house--between 7th & 8th avenues--actually became 3717 West 23rd after annexation-related renumberings around the city circa 1911-13. Unfortunately, it was demolished in 2007.

"B" is Blanche Fitzgerald, one of two unmarried daughters of Nathan and Julia FitzGerald--the other daughter was Malia. Nathan FitzGerald was a lawyer who had recently retired and moved down from Tacoma. (Blanche was 29 or 30, Malia 27 or 28.) Blanche was a secretary in a law office for decades and was still listed at 3717 in the CD as late as 1956.


What's there now:
https://i.postimg.cc/DZqbkC7z/3717w23-bmp.jpg

At least one of those Caryatids from the Garden Court Apartments survives and is on display in the Hollywood Heritage Museum

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...f514bded_m.jpg


https://s3-media0.fl.yelpcdn.com/bph...4jWDjqzQ/o.jpg

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https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/holl...BbKgT80kyPfqAA
Yelp

Martin, you are quite right, I had to take the Googlemobile south of Rosewood to get the buildings on the east side of La Cienega to match up....as you say it's likely a depth of focus issue, I'm not a camera guy so this is all beyond me.

Does anyone know if there was ever a streetcar line on Third Street?

Did the Hollywood Freeway construction through Cahuenga Pass swallow and digest this faux "French Village"? Is anything left of it today? At least some of Charlie Chaplin's "English Village" studio near Sunset/La Brea survives as the Henson complex, complete with a statue of Kermit as the Little Tramp.

Was the nearby "Rocky & Bullwinkle" statue preserved on the Sunset Strip? The Rocky & Bullwinkle show appealed to both kids & adults back in the early '60s, a proto Simpsons with a "Mad Magazine" subversive satire vibe. All the smart kids read Mad Magazine and watched Rocky & Bullwinkle back then. The normal kids watched Huckleberry Hound, Yogi Bear and the Flintstones. The Flintstones was a rip-off of the Honeymooners. Never did get Soupy Sales, but some kids watched him.

I will leave it to one of the real transit experts here to expound if they wish to, but yes, streetcars ran on Third Street. Below is an often-seen image from the LAPL, with a car heading west on Third east of Bunker Hill (aka "Beaudry Hill"***). As LARy lines were revised over the years, Third had a line as far west as La Brea.


***I was lucky enough to tune into the Windsor Square–Hancock Park Historical Society's great presentation this past week of Nathan Marsak's work on Bunker Hill. I don't know if a video of it is available on Youtube or somewhere, but Noirishers should seek it out. Bunker Hill and our own Beaudry really come alive.

Windsor Square–Hancock Park Historical Society info:
https://windsorsquarehancockpark.com/event/540/

https://i.postimg.cc/Ls7SzmtG/lary3rdst-bmp.jpg

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re:...The French Village - Hollywood California

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/RZDd9L.jpg
vintage_everyday....via.... Paradise Leased

There is some roadwork going on along Highland Avenue. (note the huge contraption) At first I thought it was a steamroller but there are blades extending from the back of the thing.

Yes, you're correct CaliNative.

The French Village was located where Highland Avenue and Cahuenga Blvd. converge at the mouth of the Cahuenga Pass.

Approximately within the red triangle. (with the emphasive on approximately)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/gL3EDB.jpggoogle_earth

I wonder if odinthor knows there's an Odin Street in Hollywood.







Remember the man in the car in the sepia postcard. He was parked a little to the left of the building(s) shown below.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/kZDmby.jpg

DIG THOSE NAMES!







Here's a layout of the French Village as completed in 1920.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/vtzAVU.jpg

But there was an expansion a few years later when the streets were widened. (it's confusing) see below

In 1925 a major street widening project for Hollywood with the somewhat sinister sounding name of the “Five Finger” plan cut the property nearly in half and forced the
demolition of the beautiful Tower House. Rather than disaster, however, the Davis brothers saw the Five Finger plan as an opportunity to actually enlarge the Village
and adapt it to the growing needs of Hollywood. In doing so they scored a major architectural achievement." ....STEVE VAUGHT

So how in the heck was the French Village enlarged after it was cut in half? :shrug:




Found at vintage_everyday....via....Paradise Leased
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CaliNative, I did a bit of a history post of the Bullwinkle statue at this link:
https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...ostcount=33703

That February, 2016 post ended with the statue being displayed in West Hollywood City Hall's lobby...

The WeHo city website said at the time:

Over the next year after that post the statue disappeared from the lobby and no one had any information as to what happened to it; why it hadn't been placed back on the strip or anything.

Then last August BillInGlendale discovered it had been re-installed on the Strip on March 28, almost a year ago now, in the Holloway Triangle, and he posted a pic he took of it:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...f5bff324_z.jpg


And I followed with this post:

Thanks for the update! Rocky & Bullwinkle show should be revived. Millennials would get a kick out of it. Fractured fairy tales, clueless Mountie Dudley Dooright, time traveling dog genius Mr. Peabody and his faithful boy Sherman, Natasha and Boris Putanov, Aesop & son, and of course a moose and his flying squirrel pal.

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mystery location / officers club




Photo album page found on eBay (1951)
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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/50luVV.jpg
Link


As you can see from the top two photographs the officers club had an amazingly streamlined entrance.




Here's a closer look:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/RHyBeL.jpg






https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/IwKyqL.jpg


Any idea where this officers club was located? :shrug:




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Just for fun, here are the other three photographs from the page.




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The boy is hip.









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This is no doubt where the family was staying. I should recognize it. I'm sure that we've seen it on NLA before.










And the Vine Street Brown Derby.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/M6ceQW.jpg
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All the photographs are dated 1951.



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