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I guess it didn't last. Schaber's: Quote:
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:previous: Oh my, I had forgotten about that interior view of Schabers I posted years ago. What a beauty!
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"Schaber’s Cafeteria and Einar Petersen" from the Daily Mirror 1940s. Just look at that terrazzo sidewalk: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-D...9%252520PM.jpg lapl "The Store of Happiness" ca 1940s: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q...0%252520PM.jpg lapl Before Schaber's was Figaro's it was a Carl's Jr for years. August 2014 as Cafe Figaro. So much of the beautiful ironwork went missing, inside and out: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9...0%252520PM.jpg gsv P.S. I remembered Schaber's b/c I sent Figaro's a bunch of photos from back in the day. They said they had them printed up to give to customers. Too bad they couldn't make a go of it. The listing to sell the restaurant is here Here's the 1928 building permit. Charles F Plummer was the architect: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-x...5%252520PM.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-A...0%252520PM.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n...3%252520PM.jpg ladbs For pix of other Charles F Plummer buildings click HERE |
Before we move too far from Hoss' Chateau Brentana post, I feel compelled to comment on this lighting fixture.
(there were actually two of them in the original photograph) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...905/b0H5sB.jpg detail / Shulman photograph This has to be one of the ugliest designs I have ever seen (is that hammered copper?) And if that wasn't bad enough, faux-icicles were added to the bottom. This is what my mom would call "a conversation piece". ;) __ |
'mystery' location.
Los Angeles Motor Coach Co., Bus #3702. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...903/Oi54uA.jpg eBay I can't tell where this bus has stopped. -perhaps someone here recognizes the impressive house in the background? -maybe GaylordWilshire? (our in-house house expert) here's a detail that's actually clearer http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...911/DStcf3.jpg The "Los Angeles 5th & Hill" sign on the side is the final destination, right? __ |
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Metro Library and Archive have this larger version of the whole picture on Flickr, in case it helps. I think the house on the left is clearer. Their caption says "Los Angeles Motor Coach bus no.3702 headed to 5th and Hill in downtown Los Angeles, circa 1930." http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original Metro Library and Archive |
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That's the Adolph Ramish house at the NE corner of Wilshire and Kingsley: http://wilshireboulevardhouses.blogs...e-see-our.html At left is a glimpse of the George Getty house: http://wilshireboulevardhouses.blogs...e-see-our.html |
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"Car and Alpha Beta truck mishap, 1970. Los Angeles. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...903/t1crhH.jpg eBay _ |
From a San Francisco 1902. Mr. Ramish says he wants the diamonds back and pronto!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pswzamps9p.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pshc3zvrzl.jpg cdfiles THERE IS NO COMPROMISE Miss Blanche Douglas and Adolph Ramish are Still at War It is war to the knife over the diamonds for which Adolph Ramish, a few days ago, brought action In the Superior Court, making Miss Blanche Douglass, of the Harrington Reynolds company, defendant. In speaking of the matter yesterday , Miss Douglas said: "No, indeed, there has been no compromise, and I most certainly will not return the jewels which Mr. Ramish gave me (There was an especial emphasis on the 'gave') until the court orders me to do so and I scarcely think that Is probable. I did not think my friends would stand by me as they have. They have simply taken the matter out of my hands and are fighting it for me.'' Attorney John G. Mott has been secured to defend the case." Mr. Ramish Insists that he only loaned the jewels to the pretty actress and that he has proof eought of this to secure the Jewels. |
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http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...le/6-27-46.jpg ad from LAT 6-27-46 http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...le/4-11-47.jpg LAT from 4-11-47 Their thanksgiving menu options for 11-26-1952 sound good. http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/11-26-52.jpg Schaber's opened up a new location at 665 S. La Brea. http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...le/11-4-47.jpg 11-4-47 |
I happened across this matchbook a month or so ago.
It has two different names on the same matchbook (with the same phone number). http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...911/FTlqJU.jpghttp://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...907/txxhhE.jpg eBay below: Inside the matchbook is this list of entertainers. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/910/Ouwdpl.jpg eBay After a few google searches I found this 1957 photograph showing the nightclub with the two different names (8572 Sunset Boulevard). http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...633/KY8BKg.jpg http://oldshowbiz.tumblr.com/image/37336536732 * I wonder what the difference is between the two nightclubs. Was one more formal than the other? Did one feature musicians, while the other featured comedians? :previous: I just noticed the "Dinners" sign under Crescendo....perhaps the Interlude didn't serve food, while the Crescendo was more of a dinner theater. below: Interesting fact: Mort Sahl was the first comedian to appear on the cover of Time magazine. 1960 http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...908/JPLOnj.jpg http://www.mortsahlofficial.com/biography.html *we first saw this photograph once before back in 2010. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1680 __ |
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And here we have what used to be in that parking lot. Updated.
(ETA: Added a couple of notations on the included pictures, a new "Now" version of the "Italian Stores" shot, and in the North Spring photo, an inset showing camera position and FOV.)
TL;DR version: I found a photo of the small block bounded by North Spring, New High, and Sunset Boulevard, now a forgotten piece of L.A. history long since obliterated by the giant El Pueblo parking lot at 601 N. Main. Picture is also displayed in an image tag below. You can read my comments on the Flickr page; for full picture credits and a more detailed discussion, read on. Quote:
I don't know if this has been answered yet, but a couple of days ago, just by luck, I happened on the answer, plus a view I don't think we've seen here before. On another message board community, a poster pointed out that the plat maps created and used by assessors often reveal old street alignments, and went so far as to compare it to an X-ray. He wasn't far wrong, as I found out when I went to the County Assessor's website's property database, and noticed that three oddly shaped parcels still mapped, right in the middle of that giant parking lot. Here, we see only the largest and westernmost of the three highlighted: https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5688/...88401a_o_d.png (From the L.A. County Assessor's website) No address, and no build dates, of course, but that's to be expected since there are no structures. But there used to be some buildings there, as we'll see. But wait, there's more. Switching from the satellite to roadmap view, we begin to understand what happened with Spring, Main, and New High streets. It's mildly astonishing that the database still records the old street alignments that vanished more than half a century ago. Although this appears to be based on Google Maps, Google itself doesn't provide this interest bit of knowledge. We now see that North Spring used to run east of New High, which it still does, but the modern alignment throws us off because today the nearly obliterated stub end of New High starts below the modern Spring Street alignment. South of Sunset/Chavez, Spring was rerouted about a block west. The original alignment resumes north of there, so that through New Chinatown both New High and Spring resume their old routes. This should surprise nobody, since that neighborhood still boasts a few buildings from the late 19th to early 20th centuries which are still clearly sited on their original streets. https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5774/...290716_o_d.png (From the L.A. County Assessor's website) Curiously, the plat map, shown in the next picture shows both the new and old alignments of Sunset Boulevard, now duly relabeled in honor of Cesar Chavez. https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5728/...0b1b1f_z_d.jpg (From the L.A. County Assessor's website -- better resolved image available here.) and again we see that weird triangular area comprising three parcels. As to the street address of the Sentous Block, the North Spring address is correct, as shown on the Baist map. The confusion with North Main comes from the fact that North Spring, like so many other streets, underwent not only realignment, as noted above, but also a flurry of name changes. In the 19th Century it was Upper Main, and was distinct from North Main, which was where it remains today. IIRC in those days there was a rise in elevation, hence the very confusing name for what we would now call North Spring, if only this block of it still existed. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/725/2...e01bcb_o_d.png (Sanborn Map, access provided by the San Diego PL.) For a few years early in the last century, it was San Fernando Road, but by the time of the 1921 Baist survey, it had become North Spring. From that map, it does appear that all of these parcels fronted both North Spring and North Main. Did the Sins book give an even numbered address for the Bamba? It's not difficult to imagine that they could have managed valet parking and taxis on the Main side. The situation with the Sentous is similar, though given its build date, it could have been listed, at various times, on "real" Main Street, or Upper Main, or North Spring. And now let's go back to those parcels in the middle of the parking lot. I found a photo in the LAPL collection taken from the west, dated April 9, 1940 according to the catalog entry. http://jpg1.lapl.org/00104/00104245.jpg (LAPL photo collection, order number 00104245, q.v. if you don't see the photo immediately above.) The Italian Stores Company was a small chain of grocery stores that had several locations in the DTLA area. This one appears in the 1934 City Directory, listed at 229 W Sunset, corroborating well with the Baist survey map image in Beaudry's post. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/602/2...bf4234_o_d.png (Los Angeles City Directory for 1934, classified section, p2534. LAPL Visual Collection) Later, the grocery store moved out and a restaurant called O Sole Mio moved in. Identifying the type of restaurant is left as an exercise for the reader. Obviously, this address was on the original alignment, where we see Sunset veering off to the right. The Baist map lists a couple of hotels in this block, but I was unable to find any of those listed in any of the directories. Possibly they were boarding houses run by landladies who only took in boarders with references, and preferred not to announce their presence to all and sundry. To the left of the Italian market, we look down Bellevue Avenue, somewhat close to the present-day alignment of Sunset/Chavez. The Bamba Club, one door north of the Sentous Block, is partially visible in the distance. ETA: In the far distance, at the very right margin, we can see the Fook Wo Lung building standing on the southeast corner of Los Angeles and Sunset/Marchessault, and dwarfed by the gasometer behind it. This building was home to the Dragon's Den Restaurant. As we let our gaze continue along Sunset, we see the south end of that narrow block between North Main and North Spring; the building there is the Pacific Hotel at 608 1/2 North Spring. Just north of there was the Hotel Atlantic, with the Sentous building just beyond that. If we could wander on down Sunset and turn left at North Spring, then wander up to the other end of the block, this is what we'd see if we turned around: https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1708/2...97f06d_b_d.jpg (LAPL Photo Collection, order number 00014327, q.v. if image doesn't appear here. Inset from the 1921 Baist map, showing approximate position and FOV of camera, added by me.) At once we're struck by the abundance of hotels; nearly every other building seems to house one. The demand for cheap lodgings, given the neighborhood population of the era which skewed heavily transit dependent and working class, was vast and deep. The decade following these images brought about a major change, as a result of which the neighborhood now skewed heavily towards -- nothing. NYC has Tribeca; San Francisco has...well, San Francisco; and Chicago has the Near North Side. Even San Diego has the Gaslamp. But in L.A. we've got a half-dozen parking lots and a few architectural remnants--and, of course, relentlessly regularized boulevards. If we could keep going down Sunset, we'd cross Main and then the north end of the Plaza, immediately south of the Simpson Building, Olvera Street, and the Methodist Church. There was a time when the Plaza Church, now addressed on the west side of Main, and the Plaza Methodist Church both had Sunset Boulevard addresses, W and E respectively. Going still further we'd pass the last remnant of Old Chinatown on our right, and then straight across Alameda into the main entrance of Union Station. Having seen all of these images, it is impossible not to feel resentment, nay, a simmering rage, at what has been lost, and for nothing more than a parking lot. Here we see images from a time when this neighborhood possessed a certain vigor and was full of crazy-angled streets and old architecture--a sort of Southern Californian Altstadt. In hindsight, it seems that this neighborhood, in particular, became the poster child of the suburbanist urban renewal ethos of making Downtown America car-friendly and everything-else-unfriendly. Another factor, perhaps, was a priggish urge to rid the neighborhood of "unsightliness", including any evidence of nightlife like the Bamba, and for that matter the working people who lived here along with the cheap hotels and other businesses that catered to them. The neighborhood was going to be cleaned up, and if it meant total destruction, then so be it. We couldn't have busloads of school children coming down here to see Olvera Street and let them see that, could we? 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I believe the mill's address was changed to 443 S. Figueroa. There are two October 1939 LADBS permits for a garage at that address; the first permit is for work on the building and then the second one, 18 days later, is for tearing the whole thing down. Perhaps its condition was found to be too far gone for remodeling. # # # This c. 1887 photo was supposedly taken from near 5th and Figueroa. It may show the Woolen Mill Ditch flowing to the start of the flume that led to the roof of the mill, but the photo might be looking too much to the north for that: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...p.jpg~original Seaver Center -- http://collections.nhm.org/seaver-ce...&refirn=558426 I am definitely confused about the above photo. Perhaps the section of flume is over a ravine further up the ditch, rather than the section leading directly to the mill roof in the 1876 photo? If this were the section of flume leading directly to the roof, I think we'd see the little creek that ran just south of the mill. The long scar on the hillside in the upper right corner may show 2nd Street after the cable railway was built there. Here's a closer look at a portion of the above photo. In the middle distance is a prominent sloping hill at the left side of the red box. On the right side of the box, below the green star, there is a smaller, flat-topped hill the same shade as the prominent sloping hill. There seems to be a small, partially bare knoll just in front of the left side of that smaller flat-topped hill: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...w.jpg~original Now here is an enlarged view of a portion of the 1876 photo of the mill. I think we see, lower and from a little further east, the same prominent sloping hill at left and the flat-topped hill on the right, with the little knoll in front of its left side: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original Anyway, it seems like the 1876 photo looking across the flume and the c. 1887 photo looking up the flume show the same background, and that has me confused. Maybe the two photos show two different flumes on the Woolen Mill Ditch, or maybe the c. 1887 photo shows not the Woolen Mill Ditch but a different one? What I've referred to as the "prominent sloping hill" can be clearly seen in the center of the 1916 panorama I posted before, with the former mill in the lower left corner: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...x.jpg~original Thanks er for the 1880 article on the woolen mill. Here is another mention: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...p.jpg~original May 1880 Semi-Tropic California @ Hathitrust -- http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?i...eq=48;size=175 This reference to the mill and ice house is from the 1886 LA City Directory: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...p.jpg~original fold3.com |
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Amazing FW. I don't think I've ever seen a photo from this early, from this POV (1887 was the same year the Belmont Hotel burned down):
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