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KevinW Sep 22, 2012 6:51 PM

4032 Wilshire
 
You may be on to something with Wilshire. Here is a piece of a 1954 Satellite shot:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8318/8...f9df3aca_o.png

Dead center seems to be our building. It's the right location and shape.

pwrof3 Sep 22, 2012 6:54 PM

It's sad that most of these once glamorous areas of Los Angeles are now reduced to slums. I have lived in Long Beach, CA my entire life and have always been fascinated with old Los Angeles. Unfortunately, due to the degredation of the area I have only been down on Broadway twice in my entire life. I love seeing these buildings in person, but it is sad to see them neglected and falling apart in an area of town that is now not a great plac eto hang out and spend the day.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4776702)
Tally's New Broadway Theater at 6th ST. & Broadway.


http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4...heaterat6t.jpg
usc digital archive


Can you imagine what this looked like at night with the exceptional electric signs (especially in 1905).




Below: Amazingly, the Elden Hotel building (1894) to the left of Tally's New Broadway is still there.

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9...telyouaret.jpg
HomeE / you-are-here.com


GaylordWilshire Sep 22, 2012 7:06 PM

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-i...2520PM.bmp.jpgHistoric Aerials

I'm now thinking 4032 Wilshire is a red herring... a blowup of what once occupied the lot reveals an asymmetric facade... back to square one.

GaylordWilshire Sep 22, 2012 7:16 PM

Well, pwrof3, the same is probably true of downtown Long Beach as well as many other American cities.... Also, downtown L.A. is in the best shape it's been in in decades. Take the Blue Line up to check it out for yourself.

pwrof3 Sep 22, 2012 7:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 4786230)
http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2008-08/41759352.jpg L.A. Times photo

Mickey and LaVonne Cohen's house at 513 Moreno Ave., Brentwood, 1949. Wonder if it still looks anything like this? (Note the Caddy convertible in front. In addition to his bulletproof Fleetwood, Mickey was given to ordering two other Cadillacs every year--apparently with money he should have been sending to the IRS instead.)

This is over two years old, but here is Cohen's Brentwood home today. Even the garage door is the same.
https://dz1lpg.blu.livefilestore.com...hen.jpg?psid=1 Bing Maps, Microsoft.

MichaelRyerson Sep 22, 2012 7:44 PM

Maybe.
 
I don't put a lot of stock in these 'dates' but this shot may be a bit early. But regardless, there is a smallish, rounded building in our spot here...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8457/8...d122478a_b.jpg
Wilshire corridor, ca.1930

Aerial view of Wilshire corridor looking east to downtown Los Angeles. Buildings along Wilshire are lightly interspersed among residential housing. In the center left is the dome of the Wilshire Blvd. Temple. The Pellissier Building, housing the Warner Bros. Western Theatre (later renamed the Wiltern) is opposite and down from the Temple. In the top center is the City Hall tower and to the right of the tower is the business district of Los Angeles.

LAPL

pwrof3 Sep 22, 2012 7:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5840902)
Well, pwrof3, the same is probably true of downtown Long Beach as well as many other American cities.... Also, downtown L.A. is in the best shape it's been in in decades. Take the Blue Line up to check it out for yourself.

Oh, I know! Downtown Long Beach is pretty bad these days. Probably worse than Los Angeles.
I went to downtown LA last year and spent time at the Pueblo de Los Angeles, Pershing Square, Angels' Flight and the historic section of Broadway in what is now the diamond district (old Warner's theater).
It was in much better shape than when I went in the ealry 1990s, but it is still far from where it could be if people showed pride in their neighborhood. Lots of trash, broken curbs, sidewalks that haven't properly cleaned in decades. Of course, most of that is the city's fault for not taking care of the older parts of town (unless your by city hall).
I hope to head back to that area sometime soon just for the pure joy of seeing so many historical buildings. Although, when I was there last year, I felt like I was the only one who even knew the history of these buildings. Most folks didn't seem to care.
I hope to stay in the Biltmore one of these weekends just for fun.

BifRayRock Sep 22, 2012 8:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5840896)
I'm now thinking 4032 Wilshire is a red herring... a blowup of what once occupied the lot reveals an asymmetric facade... back to square one.


By no means dispositive, please look at the 1948 footprint. http://www.historicaerials.com/aeria...6501&year=1948 Looks slightly more symmetrical to my tired old eyes.

With respect, I think the proof would be in locating a full frontal view. Too bad Ansel rarely, if ever, responds to e-mails. Wouldn't be surprised to learn that the info is contained in a forgotten non-digitized and coffee-stained journal kept by photographer Herman S. that reposes at the LAPL. The sequence of negatives (images captured before and after) might also hold several clues - if they exist.


GaylordWilshire Sep 22, 2012 8:12 PM

:previous:

It does look more symmetrical there-- other than finding photographer's notes, perhaps someone tuning in has an LAPL library card and can access Sanborn maps online, which are usually very accurate in depicting the shapes of buildings... I access them thru NYU down the block from my apt, but I'm not in the city right now....

BifRayRock Sep 22, 2012 8:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5840959)
:previous:

It does look more symmetrical there-- other than finding photographer's notes, perhaps someone tuning in has an LAPL library card and can access Sanborn maps online, which are usually very accurate in depicting the shapes of buildings... I access them thru NYU down the block from my apt, but I'm not in the city right now....

Upon reexamination of the original photo, it is not exactly clear that the subject building is a perfect square or rectangular.

It could be due to the angle or the the lens used, but . . . one "wing" of the building (bearing the placard) may be sitting a few feet forward of the other. However, unless one of the images were reversed, this seems opposite of what is depicted in your later found image. The earlier '48 image is blurry enough to chalk up to time of day conditions (or maybe the fact that pilot was distracted - by saucer shaped objects looking to land next to the mother ship (Simons @ Wilshire and Fairfax). :rolleyes: Parenthetically, I wonder if the original building was on a hill or slightly elevated when compared to whatever is to the viewer's left of the building? (Could be time to look toward Maywood.)

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/1...iedbuildin.jpg

westcork Sep 22, 2012 9:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5840992)
Upon reexamination of the original photo, it is not exactly clear that the subject building is a perfect square or rectangular.

It could be due to the angle or the the lens used, but . . . one "wing" of the building (bearing the placard) may be sitting a few feet forward of the other. However, unless one of the images were reversed, this seems opposite of what is depicted in your later found image. The earlier '48 image is blurry enough to chalk up to time of day conditions (or maybe the fact that pilot was distracted - by saucer shaped objects looking to land next to the mother ship (Simons @ Wilshire and Fairfax). :rolleyes: Parenthetically, I wonder if the original building was on a hill or slightly elevated when compared to whatever is to the viewer's left of the building? (Could be time to look toward Maywood.)


http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/1...iedbuildin.jpg

Does anybody have the link to the original LAPL page?

Chuckaluck Sep 22, 2012 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westcork (Post 5841031)
Does anybody have the link to the original LAPL page?

Sure!

Unfortunately, the link originally provided self-expires. If you are serious, search LAPL for "Schultheis 4032" and you will likely find it. Otherwise, below are the bulk of the notes culled from that page.

Good hunting!



Quote:

Filing Information Herman J. Schultheis Collection
N-004-955 8x10
Date [ca. 1937]

Description 1 photographic print : b&w ; 11 x 15 cm.
Notes Herman J. Schultheis was born in Aachen, Germany in 1900, and immigrated to the United States in the min-1920s after obtaining a Ph.D. in mechanical and electrical engineering. He married Ethel Wisloh in 1936, and the pair moved to Los Angeles the following year. He worked in the film industry from the late 1930s to the mid-1940s, most notably on the animated features "Fantasia" and "Pinocchio." His detailed notebook, documenting the special effects for "Fantasia," is the subject of a 14-minute short-subject included on the film's DVD. In 1949, he started employment with Librascope as a patent engineer. Schultheis was an avid amateur photographer who traveled the world with his cameras. It was on one of these photographic exhibitions in 1955 that he disappeared in the jungles of Guatemala. His remains were discovered 18 months later. The digitized portion of this collection represents the images Schultheis took of Los Angeles and its surrounding communities after he relocated to the area in 1937.
LAPL 00019101
Summary Two cars are parked outside an Art Deco style medical building, located at 4032 on an unidentified street in Los Angeles.


GaylordWilshire Sep 22, 2012 10:35 PM

I suppose this house

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-l...dorlaplred.jpg


could be this one:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-y...uildinXred.jpg

Both pics LAPL

ethereal_reality Sep 22, 2012 10:54 PM

...good eye GW. I overlooked the reflection.

Chuckaluck Sep 23, 2012 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5744747)
Exterior of the Wilshire Theatre, designed by S. Charles Lee and built between 1928-1930. This classic Art Deco structure, located at 8440 Wilshire, originally operated under the Fox theater chain and includes a 2,500 seat auditorium, a tower with residential and office space (no longer used), and commercial space on the ground floor.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics18/00028683.jpgLAPL
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Theater_05.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Theater_04.jpg
Wikipedia
http://photos.cinematreasures.org/pr...JPG?1314660054Saban Theater
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5323/7...0a3a0b1a_b.jpgGoogle Earth

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The only thing missing from MCarlson's excellent post is a beginning - and maybe another Collie. Here is what once started out as the Fox Wilshire Theater. (1928-30)
http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/kt4d5nc5w9/hi-res

http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/kt029016qp/hi-res

http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/kt296nc3dt/hi-res

http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/kt4n39q2bk/hi-res

http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/kt400018fn/hi-res

http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/kt8h4nc8wn/hi-res
All from UCLA Digital

Note to "300": most skyscrapers were uncommon in LA until the '60s. This thread may cover all building, it's focus is on an aspect different than purely tall buildings. Hence, not much may be "readily" available, unless you are looking for "skyscrapers" of less than 32 Floors (the height of LA's current City Hall.):shrug:

Tourmaline Sep 23, 2012 1:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4776702)
Tally's New Broadway Theater at 6th ST. & Broadway.
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4...heaterat6t.jpg
usc digital archive

Can you imagine what this looked like at night with the exceptional electric signs (especially in 1905).

_________________


:)
http://cinemat.org/images/tally_selectricanim.gifhttp://www.google.com

ethereal_reality Sep 23, 2012 1:04 AM

:previous: Very cooool....fantastic job Tourmaline!
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I am looking for a little help here.

I found this photo on a very old cd of mine.
The only information I have is..."Model in downtown Los Angeles lobby before destruction"

http://imageshack.us/a/img831/1664/a...yatrium195.jpg
unknown

Anyone have an idea what lobby this might be?
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ethereal_reality Sep 23, 2012 1:46 AM

A rather humorous postcard of two tourists riding atop a Boeing-Stratocruiser. For some reason they are commenting on Los Angeles freeways.

http://imageshack.us/a/img29/3091/aakitschpc.jpg
ebay





A Pan American Airlines Stratocruiser maneuvering over the newly constructed Sepulveda Tunnel at LAX in 1953.
(I believe this is Pan American's clipper ship 'Southern Cross')

http://imageshack.us/a/img171/6079/l...unnelhuge1.jpg
http://www.flightpath.us/

above: Also of note is the Lockheed Constellation (preferred by TWA) to the left of the Stratocruiser.

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Los Angeles Past Sep 23, 2012 2:26 AM

I have re-opened my L.A. history blog.

http://losangelespast.blogspot.com

Most of the images have been updated and increased in size, to better accommodate today's higher monitor resolutions and download speeds. Several posts have entirely new images, too - ones that I think tell the story better than those that were there previously.

There are already 6 new articles. My most recent post shows Hollywood as you have probably never seen it before!

-Scott

Those Who Squirm! Sep 23, 2012 3:33 AM

A piece of forgotten L.A.
 
Lost L.A.--we talk about it a lot here. Historic houses and buildings, in fact whole neighborhoods, have fallen to wrecking balls and bulldozers, and sometimes whole streets are made to vanish to such an extent that we can't even remember where certain landmarks used to be.

Then there's Forgotten L.A., which we also discuss frequently. This comprises historic areas and buildings which, fortunately, were forgotten when the city fathers, in the post-World-War-II era, were deciding on which areas to impose their bland suburbanophile aesthetic. A day or two ago I was taking a virtual walk, courtesy of Google Earth, in the 1600 and 1700 blocks of North Spring--just west of the river. I don't normally like to use screen captures in my posts, and I fully intend to go there in person and get better pictures. But I think this is just too good to hold back. This picture is looking "north", as the street numbers go, but really more towards the east, facing the river.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8319/8...3ee23479_b.jpg

The buildings seen here are interesting in their own right. The one on the left occupies the gore-shaped lot where Baker and North Spring meet, and goes back to 1890 according to public records; the one on the right, now occupied by an art studio, goes back to 1925 according to the same records. I'm surprised it isn't a lot older.

But check out those vintage street lamps! I don't mean the taller ones that have an armature extending over the street with a clearly visible globe, because I think those are new. I've seen them on Santa Monica Boulevard near the 405, and those were put there in the last decade or so. Rather, I'm referring to the smaller ones of which you can see two on the left. I didn't think there were any such lampposts left, and these must be among the oldest in the city.

Oddly enough, it seems that on all of the few occasions I've ever been in this neighborhood, it was gloomy and overcast every time.

Those Who Squirm! Sep 23, 2012 3:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Los Angeles Past (Post 5841237)
I have re-opened my L.A. history blog.

http://losangelespast.blogspot.com

Most of the images have been updated and increased in size, to better accommodate today's higher monitor resolutions and download speeds. Several posts have entirely new images, too - ones that I think tell the story better than those that were there previously.

There are already 6 new articles. My most recent post shows Hollywood as you have probably never seen it before!

-Scott

Dammit, Scott! How do you expect a man to get any work done?

GaylordWilshire Sep 23, 2012 4:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm (Post 5841283)
Lost L.A.--we talk about it a lot here. Historic houses and buildings, in fact whole neighborhoods, have fallen to wrecking balls and bulldozers, and sometimes whole streets are made to vanish to such an extent that we can't even remember where certain landmarks used to be.

Then there's Forgotten L.A., which we also discuss frequently. This comprises historic areas and buildings which, fortunately, were forgotten when the city fathers, in the post-World-War-II era, were deciding on which areas to impose their bland suburbanophile aesthetic. A day or two ago I was taking a virtual walk, courtesy of Google Earth, in the 1600 and 1700 blocks of North Spring--just west of the river. I don't normally like to use screen captures in my posts, and I fully intend to go there in person and get better pictures. But I think this is just too good to hold back. This picture is looking "north", as the street numbers go, but really more towards the east, facing the river.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8319/8...3ee23479_b.jpg

The buildings seen here are interesting in their own right. The one on the left occupies the gore-shaped lot where Baker and North Spring meet, and goes back to 1890 according to public records; the one on the right, now occupied by an art studio, goes back to 1925 according to the same records. I'm surprised it isn't a lot older.

But check out those vintage street lamps! I don't mean the taller ones that have an armature extending over the street with a clearly visible globe, because I think those are new. I've seen them on Santa Monica Boulevard near the 405, and those were put there in the last decade or so. Rather, I'm referring to the smaller ones of which you can see two on the left. I didn't think there were any such lampposts left, and these must be among the oldest in the city.

Oddly enough, it seems that on all of the few occasions I've ever been in this neighborhood, it was gloomy and overcast every time.


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7546

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7575

Those Who Squirm! Sep 23, 2012 5:56 AM

You certainly got better screen captures than I did!

BTW how do you get all that information about past tenants and owners?

ethereal_reality Sep 23, 2012 6:48 AM

Those Who Squirm, I like your enthusiasm!

I felt the same way when I first came across this interesting area on North Spring Street.
The thread is so large, repetition is unavoidable.

Keep exploring

Los Angeles Past Sep 23, 2012 10:04 AM

Cahuenga time travel
 
The same spot, on the same road, in three centuries.

Los Angeles Past Sep 23, 2012 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm (Post 5841285)
Dammit, Scott! How do you expect a man to get any work done?


LOL! I totally sympathize. Actually, though, after I get done with my posting backlog, I expect I'll revert back to my old pattern of only updating my blog occasionally. It won't be worth checking every day by any means; maybe once a month, tops.

GaylordWilshire Sep 23, 2012 1:36 PM

[Re the 1600 block of N. Spring]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm (Post 5841367)

BTW how do you get all that information about past tenants and owners?


The usual places-- L.A. city directories from the LAPL and other sources, insurance maps, & just googling.


Here's another post about 1646 N Spring

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7577

You'll see in this one the plaque on the facade, the date of which agrees with the records you found. I'm not sure if we ever figured out what exactly "House of 1646 N. Spring" means. Maybe there is no particular meaning--

rick m Sep 23, 2012 3:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5841190)
:previous: Very cooool....fantastic job Tourmaline!
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I am looking for a little help here.

I found this photo on a very old cd of mine.
The only information I have is..."Model in downtown Los Angeles lobby before destruction"

http://imageshack.us/a/img831/1664/a...yatrium195.jpg
unknown

Anyone have an idea what lobby this might be?
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My guess is the Biltmore Theatre - not the vanished Metropolitan-Graumans-Paramount as that was a baroque interior--- Leonard of Caravan Books spoke recently of observing some of that demolition process... at 6th n Hill

Fab Fifties Fan Sep 23, 2012 5:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5841190)
:previous: Very cooool....fantastic job Tourmaline!
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I am looking for a little help here.

I found this photo on a very old cd of mine.
The only information I have is..."Model in downtown Los Angeles lobby before destruction"

http://imageshack.us/a/img831/1664/a...yatrium195.jpg
unknown

Anyone have an idea what lobby this might be?
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That is actually the lobby of the Mason Theater that once proudly stood at 127 S. Broadway.

Opened in 1903 as the Mason Opera House, it was demolioshed in 1956 to make room for the State of California office building, which has since been demolished as well. It is currently a dirt lot surrounded by a chain link fence.

1950 Exterior Shot
http://imageshack.us/a/img43/4320/masontheater3.jpg
www.library.ca.gov

The lobby looking in from the entrance. (The staircase that the model is standing on in E_R's image is top right.)
http://imageshack.us/a/img338/7845/masontheater1.jpg
LAPL

The model's view toward the front entrance.
http://imageshack.us/a/img832/5739/masontheater2.jpg
LAPL

Many thanks to our friends over at Historic Los Angeles Theaters (https://sites.google.com/site/downto...ngelestheatres)
ALWAYS an awesome reference site!

~Jon Paul

ethereal_reality Sep 23, 2012 5:47 PM

:previous: Wow! I had no idea. Thanks Jon Paul. :)

I like the 'vignettes' of the movie stars*.....but I wouldn't want to be standing under that giant urn during an earthquake.



http://imageshack.us/a/img15/5715/aamodelmason.jpg

Another thing that confused me about the original photograph was the model. I would never have guessed she was from 1956 (the year the theater was destroyed). I would have guessed a date closer to that late 1970s or early 80s. She sees quite contemporary actually.
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Fab Fifties Fan Sep 23, 2012 6:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5841655)
:previous: Wow! I had no idea. Thanks Jon Paul. :)

I like the 'vignettes' of the movie stars*.....but I wouldn't want to be standing under that giant urn during an earthquake.

*I just realized I don't recognized any of them. Are they Hispanic actors?

http://imageshack.us/a/img15/5715/aamodelmason.jpg

Another thing that confused me about the original photograph was the model. I would never have guessed she was from 1956 (the year the theater was destroyed). I would have guessed a date closer to that late 1970s or early 80s. She sees quite contemporary actually.
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e_r, I think you are spot on with your observation on the vignettes as the one directly below the "killer" urn appears to be the mexican actor Cantinflas. I don't recognize the others though.

Cantinflas
http://imageshack.us/a/img401/9895/cantinflas5.jpg

I also totally agree with the model appearing quite contemporary. I had thought perhaps late 60's because of her hair style and makeup.

~Jon Paul

ethereal_reality Sep 23, 2012 6:39 PM

The Mason Theater can be seen at far right in this wonderful color photograph.

http://imageshack.us/a/img59/8154/aamodelmasoncolor.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/3930393...n/photostream/




below: The same view today.

http://imageshack.us/a/img443/5204/a...odaylatime.jpg
google street view

That monstrosity is the Los Angeles Times annex and garage.
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Fab Fifties Fan Sep 23, 2012 6:50 PM

So it's not a dirt lot but, still, yuck!!!

~Jon Paul

BifRayRock Sep 23, 2012 7:01 PM

Broadway and record holding Lunch Counters?




Woolworth's? (431 S. Broadway) (ER's previous post http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=938) or
http://postcardcollector.org/forum/u...8/Project3.jpghttp://www.cardcow.com

Fosgate and Rees' (449 S Broadway)
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics18/00008641.jpgLAPL

JJ Newberrys (5th and Broadway) "a mile of counter space"
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3333/...d6f71ebf93.jpghttp://www.cardcow.com/backs/images/...rd00339_bk.jpg
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics47/00058336.jpgLAPL Flickr cardcow


BifRayRock Sep 23, 2012 7:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5783322)


ONE BIG LOOK!

This large format photo is too good to pass up - even if its been seen here before in easier-to-view format. (Hope you all agree) (See http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3378)
http://silentlocations.files.wordpre...w-00012813.jpghttp://silentlocations.files.wordpre...w-00012813.jpg

"A fire on October 20, 1943 damaged the line and put it out of commission."
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics06/00012811.jpgLAPL

sopas ej Sep 23, 2012 7:38 PM

The Hat, northwest corner of Garfield Avenue and Valley Boulevard, Alhambra, 1950s. This is the very first location of The Hat, which opened in 1951. It is somewhat of a San Gabriel Valley institution with a big local following. They have since expanded to other SoCal locations.
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...11702108_n.jpg
thehat.com

The Hat, northwest corner of Garfield Avenue and Valley Boulevard, Alhambra, September 23, 2012. The original still exists! I wish their 1950s prices still existed. I just came home from this location after having called in 2 orders of chili cheese fries for take-out. One order can feed a family of four, it's so huge. Their food is pretty good. Prior to today, I've only ever been to the one in Pasadena, which is in an enclosed building.
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...83479905_n.jpg
photo by yours truly

ethereal_reality Sep 23, 2012 7:38 PM

:previous: I've never heard of The Hat.....amazing that it's still there! Good to hear from you sopas, it has been a while.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Fab Fifties Fan (Post 5841716)
So it's not a dirt lot but, still, yuck!!!

~Jon Paul

I went back to double check Jon Paul. I believe you were correct in saying it is an empty lot.
I had the wrong side of Broadway.
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sopas ej Sep 23, 2012 7:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5841756)
:previous: I've never heard of The Hat.....amazing that it's still there! Good to hear from you sopas, its been a while.

Thanks. Yeah, the last few months have been quite busy for me--family/illness/death. But now that that chapter is finished, I'm ready to catch up on all the posts in this thread that I haven't seen yet! :D

ethereal_reality Sep 23, 2012 8:02 PM

Residence of A.D. Cajal, Alhambra, Los Angeles County circa 1910

http://imageshack.us/a/img826/2268/a...ncealhambr.jpg
ebay
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BifRayRock Sep 23, 2012 8:37 PM

Quote:

September 26, 1934 L.A. Times reads: "Charles J. Prudhomme, 80-year-old historian and guide in the City Hall tower who has told countless interesting stories of early Los Angeles to visitors to the City Hall tower since it was built in 1928, died yesterday. For eighteen years Don Carlos, as he was called by his associates, resided in a room at 741 Central avenue, with only his collection of old documents and other mementoes of old California as companions. Prudhomme was born in 1854 in a tiny adobe house just 300 feet from the southeast corner of the City Hall. His great grandfather was first owner of the vast Malibu rancho, having received it as a grant from Gov. Jose de Arrillaga in 1804. His father was Leon Victor Prudhomme, a Frenchman who came to California as a young man, married Mercedes Tapia and was an active citizen. He was president of the vigilantes of this vicinity in 1836. As a boy Prudhomme attended the second public schoolhouse in Los Angeles. It was erected in 1856 and occupied the southeast corner of North Main and Macy Streets. Prudhomme belonged to the first fire volunteers' organization in Los Angeles, was a member of the pioneer French Benevolent Society, and was historian and curator for Ramona Parlor N.S.G.W.. He leaves no immediate family. Rosary services will be conducted tonight at Reed Brothers chapel, 721 West Washington Street. Final rites are to be tomorrow at 1 p.m. at the Plaza Church".
Undated photo of Charles Prudhomme (left) and Don Geronimo Lopez (right). (Names/spelling per source notes)
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-1575?v=hr
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-37226?v=hrUSC Digital

BifRayRock Sep 23, 2012 9:59 PM

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3254/3...45a8f1b4_o.jpgUSC Digital

Recently posted the above 1941 photograph of 9th and Figueroa and wondered about the "20¢ Times” Theater (and Finkle Arms). The "20¢" was never part of the theater's name. With a little assistance from the Floyd B. Bariscale site, the "Times" started out as the Playhouse (1924) and eventually became the Variety Arts theater. It hosted live stage plays, radio dramas, television shows, musical performances, and of course, 20¢ Movies. I am unfamiliar with the building, but sources indicate the building housed two theaters with live performances upstairs (250 seats) and movies downstairs (950 seats). Wonder how the smoking balcony affected the theater above it?

>http://bigorangelandmarks.blogspot.c...-building.html and >https://sites.google.com/site/downto...y-arts-theatre

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3241/3...499bd2e6_o.jpghttp://farm4.staticflickr.com/3290/3...6c7df219_o.jpgFLICKR

Other views of the Playhouse/Times/Variety Arts:

1926
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics37/00038121.jpg
http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater3/00015862.jpghttp://jpg2.lapl.org/theater3/00015863.jpgLAPL

1930
http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater3/00015502.jpgLAPL

1941
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...NG-5350-H?v=hrUSC Digital

1977
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3290/3...53e4c526_b.jpgFLICKR

2008
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3197/3...52f282c6_b.jpgFLICKR

ethereal_reality Sep 23, 2012 10:11 PM

I certainly didn't notice that the '20cent Times Theater' in your 1941 photo was the old Playhouse.
Thanks for pointing that out bifrayrock.

I wonder what the 'The Playhouse' is used for today. It looks like it's in pretty good shape.
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ethereal_reality Sep 23, 2012 10:17 PM

http://imageshack.us/a/img826/2910/a...gemetrolib.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/metroli...9123/lightbox/

I've been trying to read the hotel sign at the corner of the building but I can't quite make it out.*
The entrance on the right look like the old Nadeau Hotel entrance but I know that can't be right.
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* I just found out this is the corner of First and Main.

BifRayRock Sep 23, 2012 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5841888)
I wonder what the 'The Playhouse' is used for today. It looks like it's in pretty good shape.
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The old gal has got a new role as a haunted house - in addition to being used for movie/tv production. :fruit:

See recent LA Times article: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...,3155904.story

Those Who Squirm! Sep 23, 2012 11:01 PM

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Here's another post about 1646 N Spring

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7577

You'll see in this one the plaque on the facade, the date of which agrees with the records you found. I'm not sure if we ever figured out what exactly "House of 1646 N. Spring" means. Maybe there is no particular meaning--
I'd be willing to bet that the "kissing ducks" are the logo of whatever that business was.

Zillow says incorrectly that it is a private house, though who knows--maybe at one time it was.

Those Who Squirm! Sep 23, 2012 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 3940dxer (Post 5683481)


And then there is the very old wedge shaped building, at 1635 N. Spring St., at Baker. I have a note that it dates to 1888. Have seen it described as the "Charles Raphael Plate Glass Co. Building at Junction Block", but I've also seen the the block called "Raphael Block". I think we can all agree that it would look better without the "mural".

I can't quite agree with you on the mural; anything that allows the occupants or owners to feel comfortable with the existing structure is preferable to its being abandoned or replaced.

I'm not entirely sure about this, but I seem to recall a few other old narrow buildings around town that were also glass works. It makes sense that a long narrow space with plenty of ventilation would have been perfect for dealing with the high temperatures involved in glass-making.

Those Who Squirm! Sep 23, 2012 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5375567)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E...7%252520PM.jpgYoutube

Just saw one of those TCM "Travetalks" about Los Angeles in the late '30s. It seems that what's on TCM isn't usually available on Youtube, and this was no exception. But I was led to a very interesting and very early color film about Olvera Street. I didn't see a date on the title card--the Youtube notation for it says "1937"--but judging by the cars and the early '30s hats, I'd say it was filmed at least 6 years earlier than that. Take a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50Dni...3FC1845A0A8589

I've watched this film in the Prelinger Archives collection; maybe they have the other TravelTalk items. Speaking of which, I'm wondering how James Fitzpatrick ever got that rural Midwestern accent seeing as how he was born in New England.

For our purposes here it's considerably more interesting that his narration obviously refers to "Sonoratown" and, IIRC, specifically mentions adobes that were still in existence at the time. Also, the way he mentions iced tea at La Golondrina suggests that Prohibition hasn't been repealed yet, placing it somewhere between 1930 and 1933.

Los Angeles Past Sep 24, 2012 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5841893)
I've been trying to read the hotel sign at the corner of the building but I can't quite make it out.*
The entrance on the right look like the old Nadeau Hotel entrance but I know that can't be right.
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* I just found out this is the corner of First and Main.



This is the Natick House/Natick Hotel.

ethereal_reality Sep 24, 2012 2:44 AM

Thanks Scott....much appreciated. :) I should have known.

ethereal_reality Sep 24, 2012 5:23 AM

A beautiful postcard found on ebay. Has anyone heard of this cafeteria?

http://imageshack.us/a/img818/4144/a...ecafeteria.jpg

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