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BuildThemTaller Jan 12, 2022 3:49 PM

That's great news. With the new office towers near the confluence, there had been a bit of a plateau developing there. An extra 15 feet isn't much, but it's enough to help Salesforce stick out just enough above its neighbors in the skyline.

the urban politician Jan 12, 2022 4:25 PM

Good news but nobody will notice 15 feet

Shoulda been over 900’

Steely Dan Jan 12, 2022 5:18 PM

^ yeah, +15' is rather esoteric stuff that could only ever matter to stat nerds like us.

And while every single vertical foot added to this project is welcome, in the real world, a 1.8% height increase is relatively meaningless as far as casual observation goes.

Now, if we were talking about a >10% height increase, then that would actually start to make a real world difference

thegoatman Jan 12, 2022 5:30 PM

I wish we could switch the Salesforce Tower SF got with the one we're currently constructing. That would've been great. But I'm not mad about this.

BuildThemTaller Jan 12, 2022 6:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 9500721)
^ yeah, +15' is rather esoteric stuff that could only ever matter to stat nerds like us.

And while every single vertical foot added to this project is welcome, in the real world, a 1.8% height increase is relatively meaningless as far as casual observation goes.

Now, if we were talking about a >10% height increase, then that would actually start to make a real world difference

You're comparing the increase to an unfinished building. The next-tallest tower near there is 110 N Wacker, which is 814 ft. The difference between the height went from 21 to 36 ft, which is a noticeable difference when viewed from afar.

River Point and 150 N Riverside are ~730 ft, so a difference of 105 vs 120 ft. From where the core is now, I think that's enough to have a noticeable height increase relative to its neighbors.

More height, something like 900-950, would have been even better.

left of center Jan 12, 2022 6:23 PM

Considering the location of this tower at the river confluence, we really should be looking at a supertall. Sad that couldn't be the case, but 850 ft isn't bad, and certainly beats a parking lot with an unabridged view of the Apparel Center. Ill gladly take that extra 15' :)

r18tdi Jan 12, 2022 9:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuildThemTaller (Post 9500792)
The next-tallest tower near there is 110 N Wacker, which is 814 ft. The difference between the height went from 21 to 36 ft, which is a noticeable difference when viewed from afar.

Really? Like you'd be able to tell from, say, the United Center? I kinda doubt it.

BuildThemTaller Jan 12, 2022 9:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r18tdi (Post 9501089)
Really? Like you'd be able to tell from, say, the United Center? I kinda doubt it.

Here's a shot posted on the last page. The top of the tower is going to be, what, 10 feet higher than the core right now? I think it's noticeable enough
of a height difference between its neighbors when you get out a half mile or more.

[QUOTE=chris08876;9492644]https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/busin...b71f983f1.jpeg

Steely Dan Jan 12, 2022 11:06 PM

^ but it's still very much in the same ballpark as the others. the extra 15' are not going to make a very noticeable difference to the casual skyline observer.

yes, obsessive eagle-eyed skylines nerds like us will take notice, but it's still not a terribly meaningful height bump in the real world.

now if it had been a 150 ft increase..... well that would obviously be quite noticeable.

rivernorthlurker Jan 12, 2022 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 9501262)
^ but it's still very much in the same ballpark as the others. the extra 15' are not going to make a very noticeable difference to the casual skyline observer.

yes, obsessive eagle-eyed skylines nerds like us will take notice, but it's still not a terribly meaningful height bump in the real world.

now if it had been a 150 ft increase..... well that would obviously be quite noticeable.

The extra 15' is more of a 'feeling' than something you notice. ;)

BVictor1 Jan 13, 2022 1:56 AM

01.10.22
https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...038796/enhance

01.12.22
https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...038930/enhance

untitledreality Jan 13, 2022 2:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuildThemTaller (Post 9500792)
The difference between the height went from 21 to 36 ft, which is a noticeable difference when viewed from afar.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuildThemTaller (Post 9501121)
The top of the tower is going to be, what, 10 feet higher than the core right now? I think it's noticeable enough
of a height difference between its neighbors when you get out a half mile or more.

Someone get this man a glass of water.

BuildThemTaller Jan 13, 2022 3:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 9501262)
^ but it's still very much in the same ballpark as the others. the extra 15' are not going to make a very noticeable difference to the casual skyline observer.

yes, obsessive eagle-eyed skylines nerds like us will take notice, but it's still not a terribly meaningful height bump in the real world.

now if it had been a 150 ft increase..... well that would obviously be quite noticeable.

Why would we consider the casual observers of the skyline on this forum?

I wanted this to be 950+ feet tall, but that ship sailed when they axed the hotel. When I see pics of this (haven't been to Chicago since the core got above WPS), it looks very prominent. The extra 15 feet helps is all I'm saying.

harryc Jan 13, 2022 3:41 AM

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rivernorthlurker Jan 15, 2022 10:00 PM

1/15/22

Topped out.

I empathize with everyone about 'wishing it was taller', but if you showed the forum this view back in the skyscraper doldrums of 2015 I think most of us would have had to pick our jaws up off the floor.

https://i.imgur.com/z8OMYB6.jpg

Tombstoner Jan 15, 2022 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harryc (Post 9503975)
Jan 13


Beautifully composed shot--very atmospheric :tup:

southoftheloop Jan 16, 2022 1:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rivernorthlurker (Post 9504460)
1/15/22

Topped out.

I empathize with everyone about 'wishing it was taller', but if you showed the forum this view back in the skyscraper doldrums of 2015 I think most of us would have had to pick our jaws up off the floor.

https://i.imgur.com/z8OMYB6.jpg

Azul

Drcastro Jan 16, 2022 6:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rivernorthlurker (Post 9504460)
1/15/22

Topped out.

I empathize with everyone about 'wishing it was taller', but if you showed the forum this view back in the skyscraper doldrums of 2015 I think most of us would have had to pick our jaws up off the floor.

https://i.imgur.com/z8OMYB6.jpg

This view is really making me wish it had a spire :)

left of center Jan 17, 2022 3:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drcastro (Post 9504881)
This view is really making me wish it had a spire :)

Never too late to stick a 150' flagpole on top of it and claim its a supertall :haha:

rivernorthlurker Jan 20, 2022 12:56 AM

Riding on the brown line around North Ave, Salesforce matched up against Willis shockingly well. (wasn't able to get a good pic) I suppose this is because it is much closer but it really added a pairlike bulk to this part of the skyline. Looking forward to seeing more from this angle when finished.

harryc Jan 22, 2022 8:08 PM

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chris08876 Jan 24, 2022 3:17 AM

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...368fd3e0_k.jpg
Distances by kedar datta, on Flickr

colemonkee Jan 24, 2022 4:23 PM

Oh wow, epic shot.

thegoatman Jan 24, 2022 5:54 PM

^what a city. the west side of the river needs to get built up. those parking lots gotta go and it'd be nice if those tracks get capped. and river/lakefront property is prime real estate.

BVictor1 Jan 25, 2022 12:58 AM

01.24.22
https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...072054/enhance

chris08876 Jan 25, 2022 2:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegoatman (Post 9512478)
^what a city. the west side of the river needs to get built up. those parking lots gotta go and it'd be nice if those tracks get capped. and river/lakefront property is prime real estate.

Are there plans to build up those lakefront lots? I'd imagine a nice park along the water, like a riverfront park, and 1000's of units along it. Could be a very prime location if it goes through some rehabilitation.

r18tdi Jan 25, 2022 2:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 9513117)
Are there plans to build up those lakefront lots? I'd imagine a nice park along the water, like a riverfront park, and 1000's of units along it. Could be a very prime location if it goes through some rehabilitation.

https://www.ballys.com/chicago/tribune-project.htm

ardecila Jan 25, 2022 2:51 AM

Yeah the casino is the latest plan for the site but there's also a plan for a mixed-use development (River District) that was approved several years ago.

The Chicago Tribune still uses the facility there to print and deliver newspapers, so it doesn't seem like there is any urgency to move forward on the mixed use project.

SIGSEGV Jan 25, 2022 4:26 AM

I didn't realize this would be visible from the lakefront

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0

rivernorthlurker Jan 25, 2022 5:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIGSEGV (Post 9513222)
I didn't realize this would be visible from the lakefront

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0

That extra 15' makes a difference from this angle. :P

Kinda joking kinda serious.

BuildThemTaller Jan 25, 2022 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rivernorthlurker (Post 9513249)
That extra 15' makes a difference from this angle. :P

Kinda joking kinda serious.

I didn't think it was a crazy thing to suggest at the time, although everyone else thought I was nuts. It does help! Another 100 feet would have really helped this stand out.

kolchak Jan 26, 2022 1:46 AM

Today... brrr
https://i.postimg.cc/sg9bF36G/20220125-103844.jpg

harryc Jan 30, 2022 1:07 AM

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rivernorthlurker Jan 30, 2022 5:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harryc (Post 9518772)
Jan 26



Nice shots harryc.

400 N Lakeshore would mirror One Bennet here to the right (South) at almost the exact same height on this view. About 30 ft taller but a smidge farther away.

And Tribune East would split them right in the middle.

kolchak Jan 30, 2022 5:12 PM

Today. The base looks fantastic. Turning out much better than WPE.]https://i.postimg.cc/X7zGW2qF/20220130-111209.jpg

These shots show why I think the Apparel Mart should have been left beige. Now from Wacker it looks like the parking garage for WP. The clump of silver grey buildings next to the beige Merchandise Mart is a bit jarring.

https://i.postimg.cc/d163x6gh/20220130-110000.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/VvSwWFwQ/20220130-110312.jpg

r18tdi Jan 31, 2022 2:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kolchak (Post 9519237)
Today. The base looks fantastic. Turning out much better than WPE.

I'm going to hold out judgement until the columns are clad and we see how the active use comes together. I think the base of WFE is pretty nice, as far as functionality, activation, and landscaping.

rivernorthlurker Feb 8, 2022 11:36 PM

I believe the next setback will start on top of this steel on the north end of the building. Probably next week.

The building has some serious heft to it when walking around River North. And it looks quite tall from the north approaching south on Orleans.

https://i.imgur.com/8PfxY7s.jpg

chris08876 Feb 10, 2022 3:35 AM

Salesforce can seen.


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...144c6618_k.jpg
Windswept Broad Shoulders by Jason DeVoll, on Flickr


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...88ac07ea_k.jpg
Frosty Crossing by Jason DeVoll, on Flickr

twister244 Feb 10, 2022 5:58 AM

That is an amazing photo from the lake. The steam bent to the East.... The wisps of stream tilted is one thing. But those dunes of wind-swept snow that look like dollops of whip cream really does it for me.

JMKeynes Feb 10, 2022 3:16 PM

Beautiful!

harryc Feb 13, 2022 12:52 AM

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southoftheloop Feb 13, 2022 4:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harryc (Post 9534814)
Feb 10



Looking tall :cool:

r18tdi Feb 14, 2022 6:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southoftheloop (Post 9535224)
Looking tall :cool:

And considerably slimmer than it's "blue wall" siblings.

Ricochet48 Feb 15, 2022 1:56 PM

Some beams for the last setback are up this morning!

chris08876 Feb 17, 2022 1:28 AM

https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/busin...03ee7a50f.jpeg

https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/busin...c94f590df.jpeg
Credit: Carson Cloud

donnie Feb 17, 2022 3:17 AM

OCS really stands on its own, i have yet to see a bad angle of her...

harryc Feb 20, 2022 3:13 AM

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SIGSEGV Feb 21, 2022 12:21 AM

Friday, 2/18

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0

rivernorthlurker Feb 21, 2022 9:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HVAC_Zach (Post 9544092)
^ Nice shots.

A new post from Walsh:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CaPbjenr..._web_copy_link

To think; the I-Beams at the top of this building cost Walsh/Salesforce at least 210% more than the I-Beams at the bottom. Insane times we're in. Enjoy the construction while you can!

Really fantastic shot/post - thanks for sharing.


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