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plinko Jul 28, 2023 8:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MiEncanto (Post 10001117)
That resort is already so huge I didn't expect this.

I hope the put some money into existing units cuz it badly needs a facelift.

At 1100 keys that opens it up to some very large conferences which is cool.


The owners of this are very into the user experience so expect something great.

combusean Jul 28, 2023 11:29 PM

The narrative for the Arizona Grand is here:

https://www.phoenix.gov/pddsite/Docu...0Narrative.pdf

Lots of fun details, looking forward to this one.

exit2lef Jul 29, 2023 4:18 PM

One of the retail tenants at the San Carlos Hotel told me yesterday that the property will close for renovations this fall, the work is expected to take two years, and all tenants will see their leases not renewed. Supposedly, that even includes longstanding businesses like Seamus McCaffrey's Irish Pub. Has anyone heard more about this?

exit2lef Jul 31, 2023 10:54 PM

Although I still don’t know all the details about the retail tenants, here are the plans for the renovation:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vTp...w?usp=drivesdk

plinko Aug 1, 2023 2:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CrestedSaguaro (Post 9990672)
Pretty good view of the skyline today from Phoenix Children's webcam:

https://instacam.earthnetworks.com/i...CH/PHNCH_l.jpg

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Originally Posted by locolife (Post 9991821)
What a difference a few years makes, would be cool to see a side by side of this view from 2010.

Not exactly the same angle, but here is a shot I took in 1991, which predates even City Hall and AWA. Arizona Center was brand new and there were only 10 buildings taller than 200ft downtown.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d883c815_b.jpg
phx032 by Michael Stroh, on Flickr

Move on to 2001...add AWA, the BOB, City Hall, 1 N Central, and Collier Center...

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...dca4261e_o.jpg
phx124 by Michael Stroh, on Flickr

TJPHXskyscraperfan Aug 1, 2023 5:13 AM

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Originally Posted by plinko (Post 10004081)
Not exactly the same angle, but here is a shot I took in 1991, which predates even City Hall and AWA. Arizona Center was brand new and there were only 10 buildings taller than 200ft downtown.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d883c815_b.jpg
phx032 by Michael Stroh, on Flickr

Move on to 2001...add AWA, the BOB, City Hall, 1 N Central, and Collier Center...

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...dca4261e_o.jpg
phx124 by Michael Stroh, on Flickr

Wow, I can’t even see AZ Center in those pics.

somethingfast Aug 1, 2023 1:56 PM

love seeing those throwback pics! i still remember reading about the huge plans colliers had in 93 or 94 that of course basically never came to pass. took 25 years to get going but finally had our downtown boom. just hope we can finally get that 500+ footer in Astra going and then (hopefully) some day something more like 700+

ASU Diablo Aug 1, 2023 5:20 PM

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Originally Posted by exit2lef (Post 10003958)
Although I still don’t know all the details about the retail tenants, here are the plans for the renovation:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vTp...w?usp=drivesdk

What a bummer to see Seamus close (if true) during renovations. Have to make sure to grab a beer before it does. Centrico also had amazing chilaquiles and will be curious to see if it has a home when renovation work is done.

Thanks for the providing the plans exit2lef. There may be hope for Seamus as the plan is for a basement bar/lounge. The existing Seamus location is slated for a restaurant. Exterior facade work and the pool is being relocated from its existing place to the top of the hotel portion. Renovation work looks promising as the hotel was beginning to show its age.

MiEncanto Aug 1, 2023 9:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ASU Diablo (Post 10004540)
What a bummer to see Seamus close (if true) during renovations. Have to make sure to grab a beer before it does. Centrico also had amazing chilaquiles and will be curious to see if it has a home when renovation work is done.

Thanks for the providing the plans exit2lef. There may be hope for Seamus as the plan is for a basement bar/lounge. The existing Seamus location is slated for a restaurant. Exterior facade work and the pool is being relocated from its existing place to the top of the hotel portion. Renovation work looks promising as the hotel was beginning to show its age.

The plans show a complete remodel of the area where Seamus' is so I think it's gone.

combusean Aug 1, 2023 11:38 PM

I'm sure there'd be enough demand for a restaurant like Seamus to reopen, but whether they'd make the money to recover moving costs remains to be seen. I feel like there's been a track record of places that attempt to renovate/reopen, usually with a menu update but none of what made the original special moves with it and they don't live long after.

I think with the whole project there's ample time for them to get their ducks in a row, so they have that going for them.

CrestedSaguaro Aug 2, 2023 4:30 PM

1500 N. Central
 
Received the latest on 1500 N. Central (and McDowell). 250' @25 floors. Lots of retail space.

View all docs on my Google Drive: https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...XW?usp=sharing


https://i.imgur.com/nQiemBx.png

https://i.imgur.com/2s2HWCN.png

Phxguy Aug 2, 2023 5:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CrestedSaguaro (Post 10005393)
Received the latest on 1500 N. Central (and McDowell). Lots of retail space.

View all docs on my Google Drive: https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...XW?usp=sharing


https://i.imgur.com/nQiemBx.png

https://i.imgur.com/2s2HWCN.png

The best design we've seen so far! A TOD project more than 4 floors at a major intersection with most frontages activated, especially on the McDowell panhandle, feels like winning a development lottery in Phx. Glad to see this back in review process!

ASU Diablo Aug 2, 2023 6:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Phxguy (Post 10005509)
The best design we've seen so far! A TOD project more than 4 floors at a major intersection with most frontages activated, especially on the McDowell panhandle, feels like winning a development lottery in Phx. Glad to see this back in review process!

Agreed looks great! Stuck looking at the documents via my cell phone and having a tough time finding this info.

Floor count and total height? Also, any mention of a grocer going in the retail space? At some point, it was rumored to be a Whole Foods but not sure if this was ever confirmed?

CrestedSaguaro Aug 2, 2023 6:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ASU Diablo (Post 10005524)
Agreed looks great! Stuck looking at the documents via my cell phone and having a tough time finding this info.

Floor count and total height? Also, any mention of a grocer going in the retail space? At some point, it was rumored to be a Whole Foods but not sure if this was ever confirmed?

Updated my post with height and floor count.

ASU Diablo Aug 2, 2023 6:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CrestedSaguaro (Post 10005540)
Updated my post with height and floor count.

:cheers:

Phxguy Aug 2, 2023 6:35 PM

Case ZA-284-23, to be heard at the 8/17 ZAHO, is requesting a temporary construction staging area on the SWC of 1st St and McKinley for up to 36 months and Clayco is the applicant. Could this be a sign of movement on Vela?

CrestedSaguaro Aug 2, 2023 6:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Phxguy (Post 10005563)
Case ZA-284-23, to be heard at the 8/17 ZAHO, is requesting a temporary construction staging area on the SWC of 1st St and McKinley for up to 36 months and Clayco is the applicant. Could this be a sign of movement on Vela?

Probably so. Vela pretty much has all the permits completed and I've been suspecting movement by end of summer.

gymratmanaz Aug 2, 2023 10:56 PM

Remind what Vela is again?

ASU Diablo Aug 2, 2023 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gymratmanaz (Post 10005854)
Remind what Vela is again?

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=254504

combusean Aug 4, 2023 6:12 AM

I really dig the concept at the SWC of Central and McDowell, I just wish it weren't Aspirant building it. This company bites off more than it can chew and I suppose it will be like two years before this even starts construction, which is longer than a serious project should take. The Chicago developers that are well capitalized and want to build don't mess around like this.


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