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SolarWind Jul 5, 2023 10:50 PM

Damen Green Line Station - Lake Street and Damen Avenue
 
July 3, 2023


Randomguy34 Jul 6, 2023 1:37 PM

Metra to Rockford is happening!

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Gov. Pritzker will be in Rockford tomorrow to announce a new "Metra intercity rail project," per his schedule. $275 million was set aside in the Rebuild Illinois capital program to reestablish passenger rail between the city and Chicago. Sounds like Metra will be named operator.
https://twitter.com/brendenmoore13/s...05031209709569

nomarandlee Jul 6, 2023 8:46 PM

Rockford Service
 
A total waste of resources and just another method of promoting sprawl.

SIGSEGV Jul 6, 2023 8:50 PM

Why? This is mostly intercity service, which is a nice alternative to the bus. But inexplicably, it fails to stop at the Illinois Railroad Museum.

sammyg Jul 6, 2023 9:43 PM

This is great news. Rockford has revitalized their downtown so this will help add more density to the urban core. A stop in Belvidere makes it really useful to people in the Rockford area, too.

Busy Bee Jul 6, 2023 10:22 PM

I completely fail to see how this would "promote sprawl" as someone suggests. Development, to the extent it's happening out towards Rockford, would occur regardless and like someone else said this will obviously provide needed and useful intercity service to a corridor with no option besides car and bus. This is great. There are no negatives here. It should have been done decades ago.

Steely Dan Jul 6, 2023 11:08 PM

Cool.

What's next?

Metra to restore service to the quad cities and Peoria on the old rock island tracks?

Let's be greedy.

VKChaz Jul 6, 2023 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 9986166)
I completely fail to see how this would "promote sprawl" as someone suggests. Development, to the extent it's happening out towards Rockford, would occur regardless and like someone else said this will obviously provide needed and useful intercity service to a corridor with no option besides car and bus. This is great. There are no negatives here. It should have been done decades ago.

If anything, this kind of thing should reduce sprawl by encouraging investment in already established areas that include potential redevelopment and brownfield sites.

Busy Bee Jul 6, 2023 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 9986203)
Cool.

What's next?

Metra to restore service to the quad cities and Peoria on the old rock island tracks?

Let's be greedy.

Considering the state pegged a corridor renewal and Amtrak operated Peoria service on the old CRI&P at close to 2 billion I'm not sure I'd hold my breath. That's an "eff off its not happenin" state press release.

Randomguy34 Jul 7, 2023 12:11 AM

Now we just need to restore the UP-N's former route to Milwaukee so Metra would cover all the major cities in our vicinity. That would provide a significant ridership boost, seeing as Metra desperately needs it

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Originally Posted by nomarandlee (Post 9986084)
A total waste of resources and just another method of promoting sprawl.

Rockford has about 150k people and is a little closer to us than South Bend, IN. Makes sense that we should have a Metra line go there, especially when the travel time is expected to be 95 minutes.

twister244 Jul 7, 2023 1:15 AM

If we are getting greedy, I would love to see Metra increase service along it's routes it already has. During the weekends the UP-NW is every two hours, which is frustrating when I'm trying to go get drunk on my cousin's boat out on the Fox River......

brian_b Jul 7, 2023 1:22 AM

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Originally Posted by VKChaz (Post 9986218)
If anything, this kind of thing should reduce sprawl by encouraging investment in already established areas that include potential redevelopment and brownfield sites.

All three stations are going to be in their respective downtowns without massive parking lots. It will be fantastic for those cities.

SIGSEGV Jul 7, 2023 1:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 9986203)
Cool.

What's next?

Metra to restore service to the quad cities and Peoria on the old rock island tracks?

Let's be greedy.

At least to Lasalle/Peru...

Mr Downtown Jul 7, 2023 3:57 AM

Call me an apostate, but if a private company already runs buses from Rockford to Chicago Union Station 12 times a day—without any subsidy—why is it important for the state to spend all this money to go into competition with them twice a day?

ardecila Jul 7, 2023 2:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SIGSEGV (Post 9986088)
Why? This is mostly intercity service, which is a nice alternative to the bus. But inexplicably, it fails to stop at the Illinois Railroad Museum.

I'm not too worried about this one. Union is too small of a hamlet for the state to fund a station, but the IRM has access to plenty of volunteer labor to build a no-frills platform next to their property.

Or they could extend their excursion track to one of the new stations in Huntley or Marengo. The Huntley station is (for some idiotic reason) planned for the middle of a cornfield at Coyne Station Rd, almost 2 miles from the center of Huntley. But it's only 1 mile from the current end of IRM's excursion track.

What IRM is *not* able to do is pay the very high, annual ongoing cost to operate several daily Metra trains. Now that the state is willing to pay for this, they'll find a way to get Metra riders to IRM.

Busy Bee Jul 7, 2023 2:52 PM

That would be so ideal. I didnt realize the Huntley stop would be that close. You could purchase your tickets right there and ride into the museum. I hope it happens. A rail museum not reachable by rail is so wrong.

sammyg Jul 7, 2023 2:59 PM

IRM could run a shuttle train that matches the Metra schedule like Princeton's "Dinky Line".

That's a fun way to get into the railroad spirit.

A dream project would be to get Wisconsin to co-build a Madison-Rockford line,

Busy Bee Jul 7, 2023 3:05 PM

Yep... "Timed transfers"

twister244 Jul 7, 2023 5:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Downtown (Post 9986393)
Call me an apostate, but if a private company already runs buses from Rockford to Chicago Union Station 12 times a day—without any subsidy—why is it important for the state to spend all this money to go into competition with them twice a day?

Well, according to:

https://chicagoyimby.com/2023/07/sta...-rockford.html

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Currently the quickest option between the downtown of the two cities is a combination of a Coach USA bus and a local bus taking nearly three-hours, the new service would take roughly 95-minutes with two-more new stops in Belvidere and Huntley.

ardecila Jul 7, 2023 6:16 PM

It is true that the Van Galder buses do not serve Rockford's downtown. They stop at a bus terminal next to I-90, since many of them continue on to Madison WI. But most riders aren't looking to go to downtown Rockford (which has a pretty bad reputation) in order to get to Chicago. Maybe the train service can help clean it up and spur downtown development eventually, but if we're talking about rider convenience, they already have a good option in the existing bus service.

As for the travel time - doesn't seem like the train has a clear advantage. The scheduled bus travel time from Rockford to Chicago Union Station is 2h10m (130min) for all runs, but that likely includes a lot of cushion for traffic and the bus is probably very early into Union Station on certain runs. By the time the train opens in 2028, the construction work on the Kennedy should also be completed. I also think the train time of 95 minutes is optimistic.

That being said, I don't think the train will kill the bus. Less than 1/3 of the bus runs actually serve the Rockford-Downtown Chicago market. The other runs mostly are focused on connecting travelers to O'Hare, and quite a few of them skip Rockford entirely to give a faster trip to Wisconsin passengers.

sentinel Jul 7, 2023 9:04 PM

I don't say this glibly, but I cannot stress enough how good Pritzker is for Illinois at this moment in time:

Gov. Pritzker announces $40.99B multi-year construction program

Jul 7, 2023

"SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (WAND) - Governor JB Pritzker announced the largest multi-year program to fix and repair infrastructure in state history: $40.99 billion over six years.

The new program is the first time in more than ten years that IDOT is releasing a comprehensive approach to invest in all modes of transportation: roads and bridges, aviation, transit, freight and passenger rail, waterways, as well as bicycle and pedestrian accommodations.

“Over the next six years, we’re investing over $40 billion to improve all modes of transportation across our great state. That means better roads and bridges, modernized transit and aviation, and expanded and faster passenger rail service,” said Governor Pritzker. “Rebuild Illinois has increased safety, efficiency, and opportunities for residents all over the state — and over the next few years, we will keep building on that progress, with all 102 counties of Illinois included in the multi-year program.”

The Fiscal Year 2024-29 Proposed Highway and Multimodal Improvement Program will invest $27.03 billion in roads and bridges, with $4.6 billion identified for the current fiscal year.

A total of $13.96 billion is planned for other modes, which includes $9.85 billion for transit, $2.67 billion for freight and passenger rail, $1.25 billion for aviation and $190 million for ports and waterways.

Projects are spread out across state and local transportation systems, across each of the 102 counties in Illinois.

The program aims to improve 3,006 miles of highway roads and just over 9.8 million square feet of bridge deck on the state system, with anticipated funding maintaining 738 miles of roads and 1.1 million square feet of bridge deck for infrastructure overseen by local governments.

The program will increase the investment in Illinois roads and bridges by $2.43 billion over six years...."

https://www.wandtv.com/news/gov-prit...ff0e95437.html

Busy Bee Jul 8, 2023 12:02 AM

Indeed.

SIGSEGV Jul 8, 2023 4:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ardecila (Post 9986795)
It is true that the Van Galder buses do not serve Rockford's downtown. They stop at a bus terminal next to I-90, since many of them continue on to Madison WI. But most riders aren't looking to go to downtown Rockford (which has a pretty bad reputation) in order to get to Chicago. Maybe the train service can help clean it up and spur downtown development eventually, but if we're talking about rider convenience, they already have a good option in the existing bus service.

As for the travel time - doesn't seem like the train has a clear advantage. The scheduled bus travel time from Rockford to Chicago Union Station is 2h10m (130min) for all runs, but that likely includes a lot of cushion for traffic and the bus is probably very early into Union Station on certain runs. By the time the train opens in 2028, the construction work on the Kennedy should also be completed. I also think the train time of 95 minutes is optimistic.

That being said, I don't think the train will kill the bus. Less than 1/3 of the bus runs actually serve the Rockford-Downtown Chicago market. The other runs mostly are focused on connecting travelers to O'Hare, and quite a few of them skip Rockford entirely to give a faster trip to Wisconsin passengers.

I've taken the Van Galder to Madison several times and... not sure it's ever been early into Union Station?
This is the Rockford station https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2689...6656?entry=ttu

SIGSEGV Jul 8, 2023 5:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 9986611)
That would be so ideal. I didnt realize the Huntley stop would be that close. You could purchase your tickets right there and ride into the museum. I hope it happens. A rail museum not reachable by rail is so wrong.

yeah, weird location for Huntley (I guess... cheap land? but not even within the village limits!), but great for IRM. Much better than biking there from Woodstock which is probably the best current option for getting there without a car.

moorhosj1 Jul 10, 2023 5:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sentinel (Post 9986995)
A total of $13.96 billion is planned for other modes, which includes $9.85 billion for transit, $2.67 billion for freight and passenger rail, $1.25 billion for aviation and $190 million for ports and waterways.

Do we know which projects this money is ticketed for? How does it tie in with the CREATE program? I assume some goes toward Red Line Extension, but I can't find a project-based breakdown.

ardecila Jul 10, 2023 7:05 PM

Important to remember this is a spending plan based on forecasted revenues, but revenues go up and down and priorities change year-to-year. Also note some projects are "in the plan" but allocated at $0 because leaders still want to do them, but there's no money available. So basically take this with a big grain of salt.

PDF
Road/Highway Projects
Multimodal Projects

ArcGIS Map:
Highway
Multimodal

It looks like projects for RTA service boards (CTA, Metra, Pace) are not included here. Some highlights:

O'Hare Work:
$550M for the new T2 Global Terminal and Satellite Concourses
$611M to rebuild I-190 and ramps/interchanges

Midway Work:
$53M for "Terminal Building Envelope" - could be an exterior reno, or just a really big roofing job
$21M for "Multimodal Access" - possibly improvements/rerouting of the pedestrian corridor from the terminal to the Orange Line station

Freight Rail/CREATE
$183M for Ogden Junction project - this will replace all of the crumbling viaducts along the Rockwell Sub, which runs thru East Garfield Park, Tri-Taylor and North Lawndale.
$497M for projects along the 75th St Corridor (Forest Hill Flyover, track work, Metra SWS Flyover, Columbus Ave underpass, Auburn Park bridge raising)
$60M for an underpass at Archer Ave/Kenton
$32M for Pullman Junction upgrade
$48M for Dolton Interlocking upgrade
$97M for noise abatement around Clearing Yard in Bedford Park

Passenger Rail
$222M to complete the Chicago-St Louis project (not sure what work is remaining still)
$274M for Metra to Rockford
$392M for Amtrak to Quad Cities
$99M for upgrades to the Amtrak Illini/Saluki Corridor, mostly downstate but also some will go to Union Station Access

Roads/Highways
$1.1B to rebuild/widen I-80 through Minooka, Joliet, New Lenox including new Des Plaines River bridges
$12M to study the core part of the Kennedy/Dan Ryan between Ohio St and 31st St (hopefully highway caps will be studied, but not explicitly mentioned)
$366M to rebuild or rehab 20 crumbling bridges along the Eisenhower between Maywood and the Loop. Here's hoping for wider sidewalks, bike lanes and better pedestrian connections...
$27M to rebuild Ida B Wells Drive where it tunnels through the Old Post Office.
$82M to rebuild the 95th St/Stony Island intersection including rail viaducts (this is not a CREATE project but CREATE-adjacent)
$91M to elevate the intersection of Harlem/65th above the Belt Railway tracks (this is also a CREATE project)
$142M to build a new road overpass on Rte 60/83 over the EJ&E in Mundelein
$54M to rebuild the Pershing Road overpass at Racine Ave

twister244 Jul 10, 2023 7:47 PM

I'm confused..... Why do they have the runway extensions and additions for the O'Hare modernization program listed in there?

LAsam Jul 14, 2023 5:22 PM

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Originally Posted by twister244 (Post 9980154)
I take the Blue Line all of the time and haven't had any issues. If anything, I feel like it's gotten better over the last few months, but that's my own experience.

Took the Blue Line to/from O'Hare to the Loop this week and it was an excellent choice! Only $5 to get to the Loop, and $3 to get back to O'Hare... waaay cheaper than an Uber or taxi. Trains had frequent headways and and were reasonably clean and safe. When I went back to O'Hare in the morning I saw the rush hour trains coming in and they were packed like sardines in there! Chicago has a very enviable transit system... definitely one of the best in the US. I liked how the stations have lots of CTA employees around.

Randomguy34 Jul 22, 2023 12:12 PM

The cuts to Amtrak proposed by House republicans would basically kill the Chicago Hub Improvement Program. Here's hoping the Senate's appropriations to maintain funding levels succeed.

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In Chicago, Amtrak would have been looking at service cutbacks just as ridership is rebounding from the pandemic, officials said.

And key plans to improve Amtrak travel into and out of Union Station would have had to be tabled, such as an $850 million Chicago Hub Improvement Program aimed at making it easier for trains from southern routes to reach Union Station, eliminating the current slow crawl across the South Side to reach downtown.

Plans to ultimately provide direct access from McCormick Place to O’Hare would have had to be set aside also, according to Amtrak officials.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/7/...ding-editorial

SolarWind Jul 26, 2023 10:25 PM

Blue Line Forest Park Branch Rebuild - Phase I
 
July 25, 2023









https://www.transitchicago.com/asset...d-Brochure.pdf

twister244 Jul 26, 2023 10:29 PM

Damn - They aren't wasting any time on this.

Klippenstein Jul 27, 2023 1:29 PM

From Twitter if you’re looking for something to do Friday night:
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Calling all CTA foamers!
To ride the first revenue train over the new bridge, CTA RPM Teams says:
"I recommend being at Wilson station at 10pm and waiting for the gates to open, so that you can board the train when it pulls into the station. We do not have an exact arrival time."

7/28/23 10pm Wilson Station
North bound (east) island platform

lakeshoredrive Jul 27, 2023 6:28 PM

I hope CTA can get the funding for the rest of Forest Park branch.

Klippenstein Jul 27, 2023 7:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lakeshoredrive (Post 10001253)
I hope CTA can get the funding for the rest of Forest Park branch.

I assume they're waiting to see if they can do it at the same time they rebuild the highway.

sentinel Jul 28, 2023 4:48 PM

Given how relatively wide that stretch of the blue-line is, I feel like there is a really major missed opportunity to prepare the tracks for future HSR, especially if there was some sort of extension/connection to either the UP/Green line to the north, or the BNSF line to the south. Not really sure how, but those two lines seem like the best extensions of existing lines for HSR heading west from Chicago :shrug:
Pipe dream, I know, but still nice to think about.

electricron Jul 28, 2023 9:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sentinel (Post 10001965)
Given how relatively wide that stretch of the blue-line is, I feel like there is a really major missed opportunity to prepare the tracks for future HSR, especially if there was some sort of extension/connection to either the UP/Green line to the north, or the BNSF line to the south. Not really sure how, but those two lines seem like the best extensions of existing lines for HSR heading west from Chicago :shrug:
Pipe dream, I know, but still nice to think about.

A youtube blogger who loves HSR but is realistic about pairing up cities for HSR, only has one good, not great, just good, midwest city pair. Chicago to Indianapolis, with a score around 5. He uses a gravity model for rnaking, or scoring city pairs for HSR. Almost the entire NEC scores over 20, DFW to Houston and LA to LV around 10, and just about all other city pairs in the USA scored below 5.
Going west of Chicago, as I recall, none scored over 2.5. If you wish to learn more, visit City Nerd you tube site and this particular video.
https://youtu.be/pwgZfZxzuQU
And this specific one for Chicago
https://youtu.be/TcCQko9vJBg
The best city from Chicago for a HSR line is Indianaoplis again. Grand Rapids Michigan to the east outdraws any city to the west. He fully explains his gravity model based on population of both cities multiplied together divided by the square of the distance between them, with an additional modification per his ridership, elapse time graph. Why preserve a right of way to the west where there are zero good HSR city pairs?

ardecila Jul 30, 2023 4:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sentinel (Post 10001965)
Given how relatively wide that stretch of the blue-line is, I feel like there is a really major missed opportunity to prepare the tracks for future HSR, especially if there was some sort of extension/connection to either the UP/Green line to the north, or the BNSF line to the south. Not really sure how, but those two lines seem like the best extensions of existing lines for HSR heading west from Chicago :shrug:
Pipe dream, I know, but still nice to think about.

I don't think it's a particularly useful path for HSR.

The best use I can think of is for an O'Hare Express train, but it's gonna be cheaper to just run that train via the existing Metra NCS line with upgrades to let it bypass freight and other Metra trains. Fortunately there are no plans to use this space for anything else, including highway lanes, so it'll be there for decades to come if a new need arises.

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Originally Posted by electricron (Post 10002260)
A youtube blogger who loves HSR but is realistic about pairing up cities for HSR, only has one good, not great, just good, midwest city pair. Chicago to Indianapolis, with a score around 5. He uses a gravity model for rnaking, or scoring city pairs for HSR.

This based on Alon Levy's ridership model which has known shortcomings. The closest international comparison to the Midwest is France, with Chicago as Paris and then lines radiating out to other cities. Alon readily admits his model does not accurately predict the actual HSR ridership in France. Not to mention, the "outlying cities" in the Midwest are much larger than those in France.

It's true that American cities tend to be more auto-oriented than Europe or Asia, but it's also true that people will put up with a lot of inconvenience to save some money. Make the train the same cost as driving or cheaper, and people will flock to the trains despite the lack of local transit/last mile connections.

ardecila Jul 30, 2023 5:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Randomguy34 (Post 9997379)
The cuts to Amtrak proposed by House republicans would basically kill the Chicago Hub Improvement Program. Here's hoping the Senate's appropriations to maintain funding levels succeed.


https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/7/...ding-editorial

As the article notes, this has little chance of passing in its current form.

And if Amtrak/FRA/Biden administration is concerned about losing CHIP, then maybe they should just award the damn grant already.

aaron38 Aug 1, 2023 4:09 AM

If Pritzker wants credit on repairing infrastructure, how about not spending two years replacing a culvert for a little ditch under Rt. 83? Most days there is no one working at all.
Finish the projects started before planning new work.

ithakas Aug 1, 2023 2:15 PM

Gia Biagi Resigning as CDOT Commissioner

https://chicago.suntimes.com/city-ha...outdoor-dining

ardecila Aug 2, 2023 2:00 AM

I honestly feel bad for Biagi - she got scapegoated for all of Lightfoot's incoherent transportation policies over the last four years. Public servants, even department commissioners, simply don't have the latitude to act on their own no matter how much experience they have or how well-intentioned they are. I'm very happy that pedestrian/cyclist/transit advocacy has become a stronger political force in the city, but I don't think it was helpful or productive to vilify her.

Biagi was great at Studio Gang and managing the buildout of Maggie Daley Park. I'm sure she will find another place to land...

CaptainJilliams Aug 11, 2023 10:17 PM

Not sure if this was posted here yet, but I saw it on the Chicago YIMBY forums and thought it was a good overview of the CrossRail proposal and its impact on midwest cities, specifically Chicago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIPmGooGtuY&t=234s

SolarWind Aug 16, 2023 9:51 PM

Damen Green Line Station - Lake Street and Damen Avenue
 
August 15, 2023


Bonsai Tree Aug 17, 2023 5:25 AM

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The proposals also include calling on the transit agencies to do their part by raising fares, combined with more funding for existing free and reduced-fare programs, expanding subsidies to include lower-income riders, and other measures to keep fares affordable.

The committees hashing out the proposals are eyeing three potential sets of recommendations that come with different pricetags, ranging from $500 million to $1.5 billion in new public funding. All also call for either $200 million or $250 million from the transit agencies through fare revenue or savings.

They could recommend the additional public funding include more state money for existing free and reduced-fare programs, which the state currently only partially funds, and increased money for ADA paratransit service.

They are eyeing expanding the sales tax to include some types of services — though it would not include taxes on housing, utilities or health care, Wilkison said — and potentially also raising the rate that goes to Chicago-area transit, though that could be paired with lowering the rate in the rest of the state.

But expanding the sales tax alone won’t raise enough money, Wilkison said. The committee is considering other types of funding, including more fees on drivers such as a surcharge on vehicle registration costs that would go directly to transit.
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The service and funding changes would likely be paired with recommendations to change the way transit is overseen in the region. Currently, the CTA, Metra and Pace are each operated by a separate agency, and the Regional Transportation Authority coordinates financing.

The recommendations could include simply strengthening the RTA and keeping the separate agencies, or folding the three transit agencies into one regional agency.
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CMAP’s focus on the recommendations will be on transportation reliability, frequency and access, issues that have been key concerns for riders since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic. Ensuring those measures will be key to meeting the region’s climate goals, and boosting the economy, Wilkison said.

“That’s really what people want. They want access to transit, reliability and frequency,” she said. “And we’re not going to get to any of those if we can’t fund it appropriately.”
https://www.chicagotribune.com/busin...tum-story.html

I'll believe it when I see it. At least there is a conversation moving forward, and I feel like now is the right time to have it (with the state government being in a good place).

VKChaz Aug 24, 2023 7:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainJilliams (Post 10012131)
Not sure if this was posted here yet, but I saw it on the Chicago YIMBY forums and thought it was a good overview of the CrossRail proposal and its impact on midwest cities, specifically Chicago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIPmGooGtuY&t=234s

Wasn't a developer planning a building that would cut off an HSR corridor? Any idea what happened with that and would it affect this kind of proposal?

Roy_Batty Aug 26, 2023 4:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainJilliams (Post 10012131)
Not sure if this was posted here yet, but I saw it on the Chicago YIMBY forums and thought it was a good overview of the CrossRail proposal and its impact on midwest cities, specifically Chicago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIPmGooGtuY&t=234s

Who is leading this project? Amtrak?

SolarWind Aug 30, 2023 11:23 PM

Blue Line Forest Park Branch Rebuild - Phase I
 
August 29, 2023




aprice1828 Aug 31, 2023 2:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy_Batty (Post 10023957)
Who is leading this project? Amtrak?

https://youtu.be/SeRwh2Wpww8?si=_LN7Jg82Chjj-_FQ They mention in this video that these projects are being looked at or are in planning by various railroad owners and agencies. The High Speed Rail Alliance (which is very Chicago-centric btw) is advocating for these projects to be seen as one effort and be coordinated to improve Amtrak and Metra service.

nomarandlee Aug 31, 2023 4:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SolarWind (Post 10027731)
August 29, 2023


Good lord. So. Much. Space.

lakeshoredrive Sep 4, 2023 4:23 AM

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Originally Posted by nomarandlee (Post 10028331)
Good lord. So. Much. Space.

It's kinda ridiculous isn't it?


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