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Earl Boebert Oct 20, 2021 1:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9427677)
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A few months back I happened upon this item on eBay.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/VKLIHp.jpg




I've sat and stared at this thing for time eternal (two months) and still can't figure out what's going on.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/dKV3RN.jpg
eBay

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My take is that it is a model of a proposed multilevel parking garage. If you look closely you'll see that the spiral is two-way with the two lanes separated by a double scribed line. I'm not familiar enough with the area to guess where it was proposed to be located.

Cheers,

Earl

Lorendoc Oct 20, 2021 4:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9427696)
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mystery location.


It's obviously in the Los Angeles area because of the 'See Los Angeles from the Air' sign on the little hut-like building.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/GG3MMw.jpg
ethereal_reality_archives

I had this filed with photographs from the Hemet area. (that might not mean anything. .but at least it's a clue, albeit a small one)


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This might be it. Nowhere near Hemet, though.

https://i.imgur.com/PhRgU66.jpg
LAT 3/25/26 via newspapers.com

ethereal_reality Oct 20, 2021 5:09 AM

:previous:

Could be. I'll check it out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanklem (Post 9427813)
Did it indicate who was the architect or engineer?

No, sorry, it didn't include that information.



Flyingwedge Oct 20, 2021 6:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9427696)
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mystery location.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/GG3MMw.jpg
ethereal_reality_archives


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This photo is also at the USC Digital Library as CHS-49357. But your version is much clearer, so thanks, e_r!



Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 9428488)

https://i.imgur.com/PhRgU66.jpg
LAT 3/25/26 via newspapers.com



Yes, this is the Ryan Airport/Pacific Air Transport (PAT) facility, which I believe opened in late 1925. It was the northernmost of the
five Angeles Mesa/Crenshaw airports, just south of Exposition Blvd.


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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 8394624)

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psappfifag.jpg

October 3, 1929, Department of Commerce Airway Bulletin No. 225 (Revised) for Rogers Airport @ Hathitrust



This 1929 image doesn't show Rogers Airport, but it shows the other four airports to the north (each row of buildings = one airport).
Above the lower right corner is Audubon Middle School, with Leimert Blvd. running diagonally near the bottom of the photo:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psfktqjm05.jpg

DW-10-206-5-ISLA at USCDL


Martin Pal Oct 20, 2021 6:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9427696)
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mystery location.
It's obviously in the Los Angeles area because of the 'See Los Angeles from the Air' sign on the little hut-like building.
I had this filed with photographs from the Hemet area. (that might not mean anything. .but at least it's a clue, albeit a small one)
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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 9429111)
This photo is also at the USC Digital Library as CHS-49357.But your version is much clearer, so thanks, e_r!
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At the USC Digital Library link it does indicate Hemet, in the location, E_R:

Title: Ryan Airport, showing a dirt road at left, [s.d.]
Subject: Airplanes (lcsh), airport features (adlf), Airports (lcsh), Ryan Airport (subject)
Place: California (state), Hemet (city or populated place), USA (country)

Flyingwedge Oct 20, 2021 6:47 PM

:previous: Good eye, MP! I overlooked that.

Nonetheless, USC is incorrect to identify the photo's location as Hemet. The description on the photo says "Baldwin Hills to south."

HossC Oct 20, 2021 7:05 PM

:previous:

There's quite a bit of Pacific Air Transport history at worldhistory.biz, but no location for the Los Angeles airfield. Then I found a page about Pacific Air Transport at a Southern Oregon History site. Under the heading 'SEATTLE-LOS ANGELES AIR MAIL ROUTE "ALL LIT UP" NOW', it says:
The Hollywood beacon is one of the smaller lights and is located on the top of one of the highest knolls in the Hollywood Hills directly north of the Los Angeles P.A.T. airport.
These beacons are connected with electric power lines along the coast and are operated automatically by a clock attachment which turns them on and sets them rotating at nightfall and extinguishes and stops them at daybreak.
J. L. Mushett, division superintendent for Southern California, who has his headquarters at the Los Angeles terminal of the Pacific Air Transport at Exposition Boulevard and Angeles Mesa Drive, sends a man out once a week to inspect the string of beacon lights in his division and see that they are in good working order.
That's the same intersection identified by FW above, and the same intersection we visited three pages back when we discussed Egyptian Salt Water Swimming Club. The 1928 aerial below is a slightly different detail of the image posted by Snix in post #57622. You can see that the "AMERICAN AIRPORT" advertised itself from the air with wording to the left of what-is-now Crenshaw Boulevard identifying that airport.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...Transport1.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

Godzilla Oct 21, 2021 12:34 AM

:previous:


Many prior NLA discussions regarding early SoCal Airports - including Pacific Air Transport. ;)

See, e.g., https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...postcount=8683 and

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...ostcount=27205






http://www.airfields-freeman.com/CA/..._m4a041cc6.jpghttp://www.airfields-freeman.com/CA/..._m4a041cc6.jpg

ethereal_reality Oct 21, 2021 2:12 AM

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Thanks for the reminder, Godzilla.


This map, in particular, is indispensable.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/EcLWFs.jpg
losangeles area-airfields


I could look at this forever...(well maybe not forever)

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ethereal_reality Oct 21, 2021 3:11 AM

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I believe the confusion (at the usc archives) over the location of the mystery airfield photograph is because there was also a Ryan Airfield in Hemet.

"The airfield opened in September 1940 for the United States Army Air Corps. It was assigned to the West Coast Training Center (later Western Flying Training Command) as a primary (level 1) pilot training airfield."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/tQ1fS4.jpg


Additional information Here.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/zguu3r.jpg
press-enterprise


1943 Classbook cover.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/VG8tYF.jpg
ryan-hemet

I wonder if all these buildings came to fruition before the war ended.


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ethereal_reality Oct 21, 2021 4:58 AM

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mystery vantage point.


"1962 LA at Night LOS ANGELES - Vintage 35mm Slide"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/KV2wLv.jpg
just listed on eBay.

As I was trying to get my bearings I couldn't help but notice how small The Times Building (far left) looked from this angle. . .

. . .and I was also curious about the amber glow on the opposite side of the slide. (above, and to the far right)




Here's a closer at the amber glow. (and my ridiculously large arrow) :no:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/Kf9pOr.jpg
detail

...And then, folks, I had an aha! moment.

The amber lights are from the Fort Moore Pioneer Monument! (dedicated in 1957) ...Am I right?...I think so.


BUT I haven't figured out where the photographer was standing when he (or she) took the photo. (i.e. vantage point)
...Any ideas?



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GaylordWilshire Oct 21, 2021 12:11 PM

Sometimes we need a little noir in Noirish Los Angeles...


A couple of stories from the '40s that involve gunplay, bullets in the "pelvic region," suicide, the Brown Derby, the KKK, and have the house at 110 North Rossmore Avenue in common:


https://i.postimg.cc/qBtrdg6T/sug1-1366x768.png
LAT DEc 14, 1948



From the story on 110 North Rossmore Avenue
"Styles's father—who had lost his 1944 Congressional race to represent California's 15th district after it was revealed that he had once been a kleagle and exalted cyclops of the Ku Klux Klan back in Queens (then–Missouri Senator Harry S. Truman had endorsed him)—contended that Sugarman had threatened to kill his daughter on at least two occasions and discounted evidence of her instability. Despite Mr. Styles's claims and curious conflicting eyewitness accounts, the coroner's jury was nevertheless persuaded to rule Patricia's death a suicide."




https://i.postimg.cc/rFCP6LjT/adams1-1366x768.png
LAT Oct 13, 1940

ethereal_reality Oct 21, 2021 8:39 PM

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GW, the story gets even more noirish.


Take a look at Patricia. ..........Now that's what I call a femme fatale!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/EOFfje.jpg
newspapers.com..The Bakersfield Californian, Dec. 15, 1948.


Even though she's described as an actress I couldn't find any motion picture credits for Ms. Styles.
Perhaps she acted under a different name.




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Mackerm Oct 22, 2021 5:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9429804)
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mystery vantage point.


"1962 LA at Night LOS ANGELES - Vintage 35mm Slide"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/KV2wLv.jpg
just listed on eBay.

[...]

BUT I haven't figured out where the photographer was standing when he (or she) took the photo. (i.e. vantage point)
...Any ideas?



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Sears in Boyle Heights. The peak to the left of the city hall "pyramid" is Mount Hollywood.
https://i.postimg.cc/6qrsHqjL/City-H...gle-Earth2.png
Google Earth. (You need to be in the "Add Photo" mode to zoom in this much.)

ethereal_reality Oct 22, 2021 5:32 PM

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:previous:

Thanks, Mackerm!


The seller added another slide.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/OKrXTc.jpg
eBay

I imagine this view is from the top of the Sears Building as well.




Look at the neon!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/EUqXlx.jpg
detail

WOW!






Oh what the heck. Here's another close-up.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/W7ki4N.jpg

The Water and Power Dept. Building in the far distance is. .um. .bright!... I guess they weren't too concerned about the cost of electricity since they're the power company. ;)


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Martin Pal Oct 23, 2021 7:09 PM

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Love the Richfield Tower neon gleaming in the night!

KevinW Oct 23, 2021 10:04 PM

A little while back ER did a post on the Riviera tract. I must say, based on this photo:

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;9390683].

A rather impressive home.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/J04cQi.jpg

you must not play any golf. I would recognize the Riviera Country Club Clubhouse anywhere. This photo is taken from north of Sunset. The tract office was just south of Sunset and the Clubhouse is about two blocks south of that. The actual Golf course is in the canyon behind the clubhouse.

Here's a more famous angle of it:

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...5/DSC_8796.JPG

CityBoyDoug Oct 23, 2021 10:04 PM

South Spring Street
 
This video is South Spring Street in the late 1940s

https://youtu.be/T5nUw1xD4YE

2:40 length of NLA nostalgia.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/T5nUw1xD4YE/maxresdefault.jpg

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Here's a PSA from Inglewood CA in the 1950s. Lots of great views of that city.

10:12 length. Bouncy happy music background.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...NB4EA&usqp=CAU

https://youtu.be/bmE71zNpHjY

KevinW Oct 23, 2021 10:11 PM

And in another post, ER had this picture:

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;9398405].





"I'm trying to figure out how the Redwood House sign has a R and E at the beginning. . .all I see is ODWOOD.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/jiWaWK.jpg

It looks vaguely nautical to me. .like a ship's wheel or a float....Or perhaps the circle part is supposed to be a wagon wheel. :shrug:"

I think what's happened here is an optical illusion. The pole with the round end is I think attached to the lamppost it intersects. The wagon wheel might be a light of some kind. You can definitely see the RE behind it on the side of the building.

HossC Oct 23, 2021 10:49 PM

:previous:

Going by this matchbook, I'd say that the circular logo is the cross-section of a tree trunk.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...woodHouse1.jpg
jericl cat@flickr.com

You can see a menu for The Redwood House here - it also features tree trunks.

KevinW - when you edit posts that you're quoting, can you please leave the [/QUOTE] line at the end? it makes it clearer which bits are quotes and which bit are new, and also includes a link back to the original post. You can always go back and add them.


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