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munchymunch Mar 29, 2016 6:22 PM

CHICAGO | Riverline | 8 Towers | 600FT - 500FT(X2) - 380FT(X2) - 242FT(X2) - 300FT~
 
Location: Along south branch of the Chicago River between Harrison and Polk
Developers: Lend Lease and CMK
End of Construction:2023-2025
Architect:Ralph Johnson and Perkins+Will
Floors:17 - 47
Height: 242ft - 600ft
Towers: 8
Website

Phase 1
Residential Units:942
Towers:3
Height:242ft(X2) + 300ft~

http://www.chicagoarchitecture.org/w...1-1024x714.jpg
http://www.evermotion.org/vbulletin/...0&d=1450610513
http://www.evermotion.org/vbulletin/...1&d=1450610514
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/apps/...20150918075709

Phase 2
Residential Units:2700
Towers:5
Height:380-600 FT

http://www.chicagoarchitecture.org/w...al-at-dusk.jpg
http://www.chicagoarchitecture.org/w...h-1024x577.jpg
http://www.chicagoarchitecture.org/w...e-1024x713.jpg

credits: Crains and Chicago Architecture Blog

munchymunch Mar 29, 2016 6:23 PM

I'll add more later, any thing else you guys want me to do just give me suggestions.

Via Chicago Mar 29, 2016 6:28 PM

not sure where that guys planning to kayak to in the middle of february, but otherwise looks good ;)

harryc Mar 29, 2016 6:31 PM

3/26/2016
 





ardecila Mar 29, 2016 6:31 PM

A few more renderings showing the public space component.

Plans are being finalized to extend the riverwalk through River City somehow such that there is not a gap in the walkway.

https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/uploads/cho...erline-2.0.jpg

https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/uploads/cho...erline-3.0.jpg

credit/curbed chicago

Kngkyle Mar 29, 2016 6:56 PM

This is probably the most exciting project in Chicago due to it's location and what it will do for the South Loop.

What specific buildings are part of Phase 1?

harryc Mar 29, 2016 7:18 PM

early '90s

Busy Bee Mar 29, 2016 8:20 PM

Too bad we lost the old Marshall Field warehouse, that would have framed the river quite nicely with this development.

ethereal_reality Mar 29, 2016 8:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harryc (Post 7387676)
early '90s


Wasn't this the site of the old Grand Central Station?


July 1963
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/hjxJ3L.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_...ation_(Chicago)




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/KwuqFC.jpg
https://architecture.desktopnexus.com/wallpaper/586567/

Demolished in 1971.

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Via Chicago Mar 29, 2016 9:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 7387758)
Too bad we lost the old Marshall Field warehouse, that would have framed the river quite nicely with this development.

yup, that one hurts

the urban politician Mar 29, 2016 10:08 PM

This will be our next Lakeshore East

BVictor1 Mar 29, 2016 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 7387903)
This will be our next Lakeshore East

1/2 the size with shorter buildings and potentially less diverse architecture.

chris08876 Mar 29, 2016 11:51 PM

This is nice. I like these mutli phased, large scale developments.

+1


:cheers:

I wonder what the time table is? 5 years? 10?

Zapatan Mar 30, 2016 12:24 AM

Better than parking lots :)

BVictor1 Mar 30, 2016 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 7388005)
This is nice. I like these mutli phased, large scale developments.



+1


:cheers:

I wonder what the time table is? 5 years? 10?

10 years.

jbermingham123 Mar 30, 2016 3:49 AM

this could be the spark that ignites the fire... Chicago has an insane amount of un-utilized waterfront property close to downtown. once this is built it could encourage other developers to compete in that area

Kngkyle Mar 30, 2016 3:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbermingham123 (Post 7388221)
this could be the spark that ignites the fire... Chicago has an insane amount of un-utilized waterfront property close to downtown. once this is built it could encourage other developers to compete in that area

The 62 acre site further south along the river was bought by Related Midwest. So this is definitely already happening. We don't know what they have in store for it yet - they have their hands full with quite a few other projects in the city at the moment.

rlw777 Mar 30, 2016 5:11 PM

Anyone know what is actually happening with Riverline?

ChiArch says the 1st phase is the 47 story tower (sub-area A)

Curbed says the 1st phase is a 30 story tower (sub-area D)

Sloopin says the 1st phase is a 19‐story tower 62 townhomes and a 29‐story tower

SamInTheLoop Mar 30, 2016 5:18 PM

^ That's interesting.....I always thought it was slated to be a 19-story tower at the far south end that was slated to start first......but personally, I say why should Lend Lease have to choose....start with a multiple tower bang!

ChickeNES Mar 30, 2016 5:45 PM

IIRC at the planning commission meeting they mentioned that they are constructing 1 building on both the north and south parcels and the riverwalk for the full length of the site as phase 1. As of this moment they are digging up the north site, while the south site still looks empty from my vantage point.

spyguy Mar 30, 2016 5:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rlw777 (Post 7388703)
Anyone know what is actually happening with Riverline?

ChiArch says the 1st phase is the 47 story tower (sub-area A)

Curbed says the 1st phase is a 30 story tower (sub-area D)

Sloopin says the 1st phase is a 19‐story tower 62 townhomes and a 29‐story tower

I think phase one includes buildings both to the north and south of River City:

Quote:

http://www.archpaper.com/news/articl...8#.VvwSUhIrJZ1

The first phase of the project will include a series of townhouses on the southern plot of land and a 19-story rental tower and a 29-story condo tower to the north, all gathered around the existing River City.
Riverline also has a Twitter account so you could tweet your questions as they seem to reply back.

BVictor1 Mar 30, 2016 8:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spyguy (Post 7388780)
I think phase one includes buildings both to the north and south of River City:



Riverline also has a Twitter account so you could tweet your questions as they seem to reply back.

Tweet to them that 600' is too short and that the project is deserving of a signature tower...

Kumdogmillionaire Mar 31, 2016 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7388998)
Tweet to them that 600' is too short and that the project is deserving of a signature tower...

600 feet in that part of the city is gonna look like a monster still.

Justin_Chicago Mar 31, 2016 1:08 AM

I signed up on the website for news. I fully intend to purchase a 2-3 bedroom in one of the condo buildings.

SamInTheLoop Mar 31, 2016 4:30 PM

delete

SamInTheLoop Mar 31, 2016 4:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by munchymunch (Post 7387572)
Location:

http://www.evermotion.org/vbulletin/...1&d=1450610514


credits: Crains and Chicago Architecture Blog


Love this rendering.

If this building at the far south end abutting Roosevelt turns out anything like this (I have this feeling it's going to/has changed in final design, but we'll see), I'm going to be very, very happy. It'll be a stunner.....

SamInTheLoop Mar 31, 2016 4:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7387938)
1/2 the size with shorter buildings and potentially less diverse architecture.


True, but RL could definitely be better than LSE, which is most important. LSE is certainly a mixed-bag, even though it's overall impact on the city/downtown/lakefront is clearly a positive.....

LouisVanDerWright Mar 31, 2016 9:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamInTheLoop (Post 7390010)
True, but RL could definitely be better than LSE, which is most important. LSE is certainly a mixed-bag, even though it's overall impact on the city/downtown/lakefront is clearly a positive.....

LSE is going to be totally transformed by Wanda. That project is going to single handedly eliminate the majority of the planning issues remaining in that neighborhood. It's always been an incomplete place and has thrived despite that. Can't wait to see how it changes in it's final phases. Glad to see new mega projects popping up to keep us entertained.

go go white sox Mar 31, 2016 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kumdogmillionaire (Post 7389234)
600 feet in that part of the city is gonna look like a monster still.

That's true shouldn't this thread be under construction thread yet?

Kumdogmillionaire Apr 1, 2016 2:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by go go white sox (Post 7390588)
That's true shouldn't this thread be under construction thread yet?

Not until they start putting in drilling caissons and foundation work. Right now is site prep.

maru2501 Apr 1, 2016 5:14 PM

is there another rendering with CFD rescuing that guy after he falls through the ice?

aaron38 Apr 1, 2016 7:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardecila (Post 7387589)

I just realized this is the only view we have of the East side, just peaking down Wells. Shows it's built out to the sidewalk, good street presence with that plaza drawing people in off the street, and an attractive car free path to the river. Lots of promise.

ChickeNES Apr 1, 2016 7:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maru2501 (Post 7391412)
is there another rendering with CFD rescuing that guy after he falls through the ice?

"On tonight's episode of Chicago Fire..." :haha:

2PRUROCKS! Apr 5, 2016 11:53 PM

I really like the overall design here and the direction Ralph Johnson has taken this. I love the naturalized interface among the river, river walk, and buildings themselves. We really don't see the river treated like this anywhere else in the city and I think it holds promise for future developments further up the North Branch and down the South Branch away from downtown.

I like the designs of the buildings themselves and how they form a cohesive whole speaking a similar design language. With that said I am concerned about a couple of things.

First, I don't like how River City seems to be ignored from a design standpoint and just sandwiched between the two halves of the development. I wish Ralph took more design cues from River City and it's curvatious sculptural forms. I know RJ is a fan of Goldberg's work and it would have been nice to see him reference that here by playing off of River City's design and being more contextual. I do like the jutting angular design and cantilevers in Riverline but I think more transition both to the immediate north and south of River City with the buildings transitioning from more "organic" curving forms to more of the jutting angles we see as you move away from River City would have been a nice touch.

Second, while development as a whole is a bold cohesive statement it would be nice to see at least one truly signature tower here. The most likely candidate would of course be the tallest. It is a handsome design but at 600ft in this location and without any real noticeable design features from a distance it will be lost in the skyline. I think up close it will look very good and blend in with the rest of the development but it won't serve as an architectural gateway for this project from a distance. A taller and bolder design that still relates to the rest of the development would be nice.

My last point isn't really a criticism of this project just a general observation. In general I think these mega developments are better when they develop overtime and with different architects. Lake Shore East is a good example of this. Each building while it is related to the others in the entire development looks unique and it give the development an organic feel and architectural diversity. Even when buildings are designed by the same architect they are very different (Aqua and Vista). Riverline is the opposite as it is being designed by one architect at one time but I really think it works here and other than my two criticisms above I think RJ has done a really good job of pulling off the type of design a mega development at this location needs.

jpIllInoIs Apr 6, 2016 6:00 PM

Looks like this project anticipates a Polk Street bridge.

ithakas Apr 6, 2016 11:20 PM

Some photos of early site work over at Sloopin: http://www.sloopin.com/2016/04/looks...-at-600-s.html

J_M_Tungsten Apr 6, 2016 11:49 PM

Not that I'm personally invested in any way, but one can't help but imagine the folks at River City are very happy about losing their prime view of the city. Maybe I missed it, but was there any commotion about this project from RC residents?

ithakas Apr 6, 2016 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_M_Tungsten (Post 7397902)
Not that I'm personally invested in any way, but one can't help but imagine the folks at River City are very happy about losing their prime view of the city. Maybe I missed it, but was there any commotion about this project from RC residents?

I think a ton of River City residents are renters/investment properties; like, the majority. I didn't hear a lot of commotion from them or from folks across the street on Wells. Most I've heard from want to see more vibrancy in that corner of the neighborhood, and they're happy that it's coming along with good architecture.

LouisVanDerWright Apr 7, 2016 1:03 AM

^^^ The entitlements for this property have been in place since River City was built as this was all under the same PD as River City. There wouldn't have been anything the residents could have done if they didn't like it. And, as Ithakas said, the majority of the building is renters as this was one of the deals American Invesco blew up in the recession. It was impossible to even get a mortgage on units here for years because of how badly fucked the condo association was. That means a lot of people got absurd deals buying in this building and paid cash and are sitting pretty on the high rents you can get downtown these days.

Skyguy_7 Apr 7, 2016 1:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaron38 (Post 7391623)
I just realized this is the only view we have of the East side, just peaking down Wells. Shows it's built out to the sidewalk, good street presence with that plaza drawing people in off the street, and an attractive car free path to the river. Lots of promise.

Good eye. Looks quite enticing as shown. Can't wait to use that path!

SolarWind Apr 22, 2016 8:42 PM

April 21, 2016




J_M_Tungsten Apr 22, 2016 10:23 PM

^ready to go.

ChiTownWonder Apr 23, 2016 10:37 PM

WAIT THIS IS ON SITE PREP?! sorry i must have missed something, what is the site prep for? an actual building or just site layout

chris11 Apr 23, 2016 11:09 PM

^ I believe Curbed had an article not too long ago that work on one of the buildings (30 stories) on the site was imminent

harryc Apr 23, 2016 11:21 PM

Mar 31








April 7


April 21


A few hours after SolarWinds's set, and Lindahl is pulling out

the urban politician Apr 23, 2016 11:36 PM

What's the permit situation down there? Marothisu?

marothisu Apr 24, 2016 9:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 7418593)
What's the permit situation down there? Marothisu?

Not sure. Can't find anything pending for 600-700 S Wells or 201-251 W Harrison. I remember One Bennett Park though and I couldn't find anything on there then they all of a sudden got a permit. Something like that could happen where in a few weeks they could all of a sudden have some permits .

sox102 Apr 25, 2016 1:37 PM

Window wall has been awarded.

maru2501 Apr 25, 2016 4:58 PM

it's insane that's still vacant. Look at the location. It's ridiculous

HomrQT Apr 26, 2016 12:12 AM

I'm excited that something is finally going up, well maybe not so excited we're essentially getting a little village of glass blue boxes, but at least the site no longer remains vacant. Will be interesting to see how close they stick to the current plans. Fingers crossed for height increases.


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