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spyguy Mar 30, 2016 5:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rlw777 (Post 7388703)
Anyone know what is actually happening with Riverline?

ChiArch says the 1st phase is the 47 story tower (sub-area A)

Curbed says the 1st phase is a 30 story tower (sub-area D)

Sloopin says the 1st phase is a 19‐story tower 62 townhomes and a 29‐story tower

I think phase one includes buildings both to the north and south of River City:

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http://www.archpaper.com/news/articl...8#.VvwSUhIrJZ1

The first phase of the project will include a series of townhouses on the southern plot of land and a 19-story rental tower and a 29-story condo tower to the north, all gathered around the existing River City.
Riverline also has a Twitter account so you could tweet your questions as they seem to reply back.

BVictor1 Mar 30, 2016 8:40 PM

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Originally Posted by spyguy (Post 7388780)
I think phase one includes buildings both to the north and south of River City:



Riverline also has a Twitter account so you could tweet your questions as they seem to reply back.

Tweet to them that 600' is too short and that the project is deserving of a signature tower...

Kumdogmillionaire Mar 31, 2016 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7388998)
Tweet to them that 600' is too short and that the project is deserving of a signature tower...

600 feet in that part of the city is gonna look like a monster still.

Justin_Chicago Mar 31, 2016 1:08 AM

I signed up on the website for news. I fully intend to purchase a 2-3 bedroom in one of the condo buildings.

SamInTheLoop Mar 31, 2016 4:30 PM

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SamInTheLoop Mar 31, 2016 4:40 PM

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Originally Posted by munchymunch (Post 7387572)
Location:

http://www.evermotion.org/vbulletin/...1&d=1450610514


credits: Crains and Chicago Architecture Blog


Love this rendering.

If this building at the far south end abutting Roosevelt turns out anything like this (I have this feeling it's going to/has changed in final design, but we'll see), I'm going to be very, very happy. It'll be a stunner.....

SamInTheLoop Mar 31, 2016 4:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7387938)
1/2 the size with shorter buildings and potentially less diverse architecture.


True, but RL could definitely be better than LSE, which is most important. LSE is certainly a mixed-bag, even though it's overall impact on the city/downtown/lakefront is clearly a positive.....

LouisVanDerWright Mar 31, 2016 9:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SamInTheLoop (Post 7390010)
True, but RL could definitely be better than LSE, which is most important. LSE is certainly a mixed-bag, even though it's overall impact on the city/downtown/lakefront is clearly a positive.....

LSE is going to be totally transformed by Wanda. That project is going to single handedly eliminate the majority of the planning issues remaining in that neighborhood. It's always been an incomplete place and has thrived despite that. Can't wait to see how it changes in it's final phases. Glad to see new mega projects popping up to keep us entertained.

go go white sox Mar 31, 2016 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kumdogmillionaire (Post 7389234)
600 feet in that part of the city is gonna look like a monster still.

That's true shouldn't this thread be under construction thread yet?

Kumdogmillionaire Apr 1, 2016 2:08 AM

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Originally Posted by go go white sox (Post 7390588)
That's true shouldn't this thread be under construction thread yet?

Not until they start putting in drilling caissons and foundation work. Right now is site prep.

maru2501 Apr 1, 2016 5:14 PM

is there another rendering with CFD rescuing that guy after he falls through the ice?

aaron38 Apr 1, 2016 7:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ardecila (Post 7387589)

I just realized this is the only view we have of the East side, just peaking down Wells. Shows it's built out to the sidewalk, good street presence with that plaza drawing people in off the street, and an attractive car free path to the river. Lots of promise.

ChickeNES Apr 1, 2016 7:35 PM

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Originally Posted by maru2501 (Post 7391412)
is there another rendering with CFD rescuing that guy after he falls through the ice?

"On tonight's episode of Chicago Fire..." :haha:

2PRUROCKS! Apr 5, 2016 11:53 PM

I really like the overall design here and the direction Ralph Johnson has taken this. I love the naturalized interface among the river, river walk, and buildings themselves. We really don't see the river treated like this anywhere else in the city and I think it holds promise for future developments further up the North Branch and down the South Branch away from downtown.

I like the designs of the buildings themselves and how they form a cohesive whole speaking a similar design language. With that said I am concerned about a couple of things.

First, I don't like how River City seems to be ignored from a design standpoint and just sandwiched between the two halves of the development. I wish Ralph took more design cues from River City and it's curvatious sculptural forms. I know RJ is a fan of Goldberg's work and it would have been nice to see him reference that here by playing off of River City's design and being more contextual. I do like the jutting angular design and cantilevers in Riverline but I think more transition both to the immediate north and south of River City with the buildings transitioning from more "organic" curving forms to more of the jutting angles we see as you move away from River City would have been a nice touch.

Second, while development as a whole is a bold cohesive statement it would be nice to see at least one truly signature tower here. The most likely candidate would of course be the tallest. It is a handsome design but at 600ft in this location and without any real noticeable design features from a distance it will be lost in the skyline. I think up close it will look very good and blend in with the rest of the development but it won't serve as an architectural gateway for this project from a distance. A taller and bolder design that still relates to the rest of the development would be nice.

My last point isn't really a criticism of this project just a general observation. In general I think these mega developments are better when they develop overtime and with different architects. Lake Shore East is a good example of this. Each building while it is related to the others in the entire development looks unique and it give the development an organic feel and architectural diversity. Even when buildings are designed by the same architect they are very different (Aqua and Vista). Riverline is the opposite as it is being designed by one architect at one time but I really think it works here and other than my two criticisms above I think RJ has done a really good job of pulling off the type of design a mega development at this location needs.

jpIllInoIs Apr 6, 2016 6:00 PM

Looks like this project anticipates a Polk Street bridge.

ithakas Apr 6, 2016 11:20 PM

Some photos of early site work over at Sloopin: http://www.sloopin.com/2016/04/looks...-at-600-s.html

J_M_Tungsten Apr 6, 2016 11:49 PM

Not that I'm personally invested in any way, but one can't help but imagine the folks at River City are very happy about losing their prime view of the city. Maybe I missed it, but was there any commotion about this project from RC residents?

ithakas Apr 6, 2016 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by J_M_Tungsten (Post 7397902)
Not that I'm personally invested in any way, but one can't help but imagine the folks at River City are very happy about losing their prime view of the city. Maybe I missed it, but was there any commotion about this project from RC residents?

I think a ton of River City residents are renters/investment properties; like, the majority. I didn't hear a lot of commotion from them or from folks across the street on Wells. Most I've heard from want to see more vibrancy in that corner of the neighborhood, and they're happy that it's coming along with good architecture.

LouisVanDerWright Apr 7, 2016 1:03 AM

^^^ The entitlements for this property have been in place since River City was built as this was all under the same PD as River City. There wouldn't have been anything the residents could have done if they didn't like it. And, as Ithakas said, the majority of the building is renters as this was one of the deals American Invesco blew up in the recession. It was impossible to even get a mortgage on units here for years because of how badly fucked the condo association was. That means a lot of people got absurd deals buying in this building and paid cash and are sitting pretty on the high rents you can get downtown these days.

Skyguy_7 Apr 7, 2016 1:54 PM

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Originally Posted by aaron38 (Post 7391623)
I just realized this is the only view we have of the East side, just peaking down Wells. Shows it's built out to the sidewalk, good street presence with that plaza drawing people in off the street, and an attractive car free path to the river. Lots of promise.

Good eye. Looks quite enticing as shown. Can't wait to use that path!


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