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HossC Jun 6, 2014 8:28 PM


Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6608193)
1960 - 818 W Sixth Street - Darms Market

In 1960 was Darms located at bottom of current high rise? Obviously Darms has departed the scene, but was the entire building replaced or facelifted?

Here's an undated birdseye view of Sixth Street looking west from Flower Street. From the cars and the fact that the Richfield building is still standing, I'd guess at mid- to late-60s. In the background are the Statler Hilton, Rex Arms and Gates Hotel.
USC Digital Library

Just to the left of the gates is the Ritz Hotel, and in the corner is Darms Market. The Ritz name looks like a hasty change. The 1960 CD lists the Milner Hotel at 822 W 6th. The current building on that site seems to have been built between 1973 and 1974.
Detail of picture above.

Just for fun, here's a view of the same block from 1926.
USC Digital Library

Back in 1926, the building next to the Gates was the Hotel Lee. It also appears that it was known as the Lee Building (see name at top). The corner later occupied by Darms Market was the New China Cafe, complete with one of those once ubiquitous Chop Suey signs.
Detail of picture above.

Graybeard Jun 6, 2014 8:40 PM

Normandy Then and Now.

Chuckaluck Jun 6, 2014 9:00 PM


Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6608181)
Can someone responsible drive home? Dress code?

"Tin Can" said to be on 1201 (N or S) La Brea. (Address provided by source. No directory listing found after cursory search. Suspect it was 1201 N La Brea, Inglewood as current structure (1205) bears uncanny similarity.)

Circa 1938

Empties go to Tin Can Beach. "Be kind rewind." "Wasting away." Take the pledge, don't text and only you can prevent forest fires . . . :uhh:


"Summer's litterbugs have left annual 30 tons of empty cans, bottles, food cartons, paper plates, steak bones, corn cobs and old shoes. Photos show rusty 'path to the sea' through junk".

Nov. 1, 1957

HossC Jun 7, 2014 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6106815)

This twelve sided structure was built by Ramon Alexander on Main St. south of 3rd Street. It was used as a kindergarten (see below).
cd of mine

...and eventually a saloon (I have no proof, simply hearsay)


Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6608136)

Exterior view of the Round house, bounded by 3rd and 4th, and Main and Spring Streets, Los Angeles. A woman sits in front on a tricycle. This adobe was built in 1854 by Ramon Alexander as a gift to his Spanish bride, Maria Valdez, daughter of Basilio Valdez, who came to Los Angeles from Spain in 1830. It long housed German immigrant George Lehman's famous beer garden. After the garden closed, the city's first kindergarten was opened here, with Kate Douglas Wiggin as teacher. It was torn down in 1887. Mrs. Anita Alexander Goodwin, daughter of Ramon Alexander, lived on South Flower Street.

I don't think we've seen this before. The picture below is titled "Chart of old Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA, 1931", although I'd have thought that "model" was a more apt description.
USC Digital Library

Here's the accompanying legend. The pictures are dated 1931, but there's no indication of what date the model depicts. Other than item #61, the latest date I can see is "41 Merced Theatre 1869", so I'm guessing it's somewhen around then. The little white triangle between Hill and Broadway in the picture above says "Site of THE BROADWAY".
USC Digital Library

The Round House (Paradise Gardens) is listed as #59. I can't see the number "59" on the model, but based on Tourmaline's description of "bounded by 3rd and 4th, and Main and Spring Streets", I'd say it's the little round building to the left of #58. Incidentally, #58 is listed as "New York Brewery". I wonder if that was tied to the New York Saloon on the NE corner of 3rd and Spring streets which Tourmaline posted here. Today the site of the Round House and New York Brewery is occupied by the Ronald Reagan Building.
Detail of picture at USC Digital Library

BTW. There's a zoomable version of e_r's picture (minus the white circle) in the USC Digital Library

GaylordWilshire Jun 7, 2014 12:30 AM

...and its matching Fiesta Red '56 Country Squire.

4937 West Century Blvd, Inglewood

Still there, sort of (note the roof stacks and windows)

GaylordWilshire Jun 7, 2014 1:06 AM

Trunk murder

A Fresno housewife was found in her '57 Plymouth trunk in Inglewood on July 9, 1959, after being reported by her husband as missing since the 3rd. Her lover apparently killed her and stashed her in the trunk. As the police closed in on him at a Hollywood apartment on July 15, he shot himself.

The lady in the top photo is Iris Crochet, Inglewood mayor pro-tem at the time, according the the USCDL caption. A May 1985 Times article at the time of her resignation from her position as city clerk has it that she had held the clerk's post since 1977, "part of a public service career that began 30 years ago. She is the only woman ever to hold an Inglewood council seat, which she had from 1955 to 1963, when she lost a race for mayor."

All pics USCDL

FredH Jun 7, 2014 3:25 AM


Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6608169)
Grand Central Market - All you can drink for 5ยข. Wonder how long this was available.

circa '37

All you can drink buttermilk! That sounds pretty safe. One mouthful is more than enough for me.

Otis Criblecoblis Jun 7, 2014 5:24 AM

I guess I'll just go away now

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6608081)
Yeah, that's what I said...yesterday.

Sorry most humbly; I didn't see it.

Signing off now. Guess I don't belong.

GaylordWilshire Jun 7, 2014 8:40 AM McIntyre Salazar

Have we seen these shots of the Ft. Moore Hill waterfall before? The first is dated by the source as 1971; the second by its source as recent. Despite the absence of water and apparent graffiti in the second, the views seem too much alike in tone and other details to be 43 years apart.

Colonel Mustard Jun 7, 2014 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6607710)

My older brother had a collection of vintage beer cans, and all of them had been opened on the bottom in this way. When I asked him about it, he said it was to preserve the integrity of the pop-top, which made for a better display. Maybe these gents were collectors?

MichaelRyerson Jun 7, 2014 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by Otis Criblecoblis (Post 6609025)
Sorry most humbly; I didn't see it.

Signing off now. Guess I don't belong.

Ha. Don't take me so seriously. Of course you 'belong', whatever that means. We're all dweebs around here.

Tourmaline Jun 7, 2014 12:36 PM


Source provides few clues other than 1940s, somewhere in SoCal and Herman Schultheis found and captured. (An advertising sculpture prototype reject?) Spider Pool, the beginning? :rolleyes:

1926 -

A sculptor touches up his life-size, clay sculpture of a young women draped in a toga, holding a ball and bouquet. His model, poses next to the sculpture. The sculptor was one of 44 participating in the 1926 Sculpture Exhibition at the L.A. Chamber of Commerce. The exhibition was under the auspices of the Sculptors' Guild of Southern California and promoted Southern California sculptors availability to L.A. architects.


Sculptress Lora Steere works on a clay bust of David Starr Jordan which she exhibited at the 1926 Sculpture Exhibition at the L.A. Chamber of Commerce

Tourmaline Jun 7, 2014 12:55 PM

South of Angel's Flight on Clay Street is the identification of this structure. Probably posted before, but I can't locate. Rural and solitary, but obviously not for long.


1960 - Clay and Third Streets without the ubiquitous funicular.

Tourmaline Jun 7, 2014 1:00 PM

Discovered source of unlimited buttermilk or runaway sculpture?


"That's what North Hollywood police officer Jeff Powell seems to be saying to a life-size model of a cow found spending the day Tuesday a quarter mile east of Coldwater Canyon Boulevard near the Ventura Freeway. Al Cunningham, 11240 Dilling St., North Hollywood, found the creature as he journeyed about the area property hunting. He directed Powell to the spot, and Powell hauled it off to jail. 'It looks like a Jersey to me,' said Powell. It's still at the jail today."
November 27, 1963

Hoffman Jun 7, 2014 6:33 PM


Tourmaline, I puzzled over that picture a long time myself. I believe that's a shot of the back side of 231 N. Hope. I think it was taken from Flower, looking east up the hillside at 231 N. Hope. There's a similar color shot at the Huntington Library. Look at the right side of the image. There's another shot of the front of 231N. Hope on LAPL.

This is the front side of 231; building in the center of the photo. To the right, next door is 237; the Pierre Larronde house.

HossC Jun 7, 2014 7:12 PM


Well done for recognizing Tourmaline's picture, Hoffman. HDL has another, even better picture of the house on Hope Street.
Huntington Digital Library

The picture is dated 7/23/61. The caption says "Last old house on Hope Street wrecked the next day." Is that an incinerator in the back yard?
Detail of picture above.

Tourmaline Jun 7, 2014 8:01 PM


Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6609420)

Well done for recognizing Tourmaline's picture, Hoffman. HDL has another, even better picture of the house on Hope Street.
Huntington Digital Library

The picture is dated 7/23/61. The caption says "Last old house on Hope Street wrecked the next day." Is that an incinerator in the back yard?
Detail of picture above.

Thanks for the follow-upS. Curious about the off-white object in the center right. A pediment, an incinerator, an amateur scale model of City Hall? koko:

Tourmaline Jun 7, 2014 8:39 PM

First photo piqued curiosity regarding Los Angeles/CA DMV history. When and where was first operator's license issued and what kind of exam was involved?


DMV's drivers lic[ense] manager, 3500 South Hope Street, Los Angeles, Gilbert von Studnits walks past line of candidates taking their exams for the drivers licenses. Its part of new California State effort to clamp down on cheaters on drivers' lic[ense] exams
December '86

Cue the Draget theme.



Woman and a Woodie
"I passed!"
1940s Ford Deluxe Wagon

Too many drivers can lead to overcrowded streets.

May '46

License suspended? Take Mass transit.

1914 Washington Blvd., Venice.

1935(?) - East side of Pershing Square, Rte, 82

Tourmaline Jun 7, 2014 9:13 PM

Pan Pacific potpourri of people-moving progress.

1952 - XKJag wearing fender skirts

1953 - Mercedes Diesel does Pan Pacific.

1955 - 3/4 Buick V-8 does Pan Pacific. Ready for close-up..,

1955 -

Gorgeous Pair
no kidding.

1955 - Plymouth Belmont

1955 - TBird gets the attention

1955 - Chevys were cutups. (A Patsy Cline Fave?)

'55 Buick Wildcat "Leaves em standing."

'56 Olds Wagon, perfect for a moderately sized harem.

1965 First generation Olds Toronado (Don't believe these were sold until '66)

'65 Datsun 1600

1965 Dodge Monaco (With improved ventilation)

1965 Mercury Comet Cyclone GT hardtop,

CityBoyDoug Jun 7, 2014 11:23 PM

GM Concept cars on parade....

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6609487)
Pan Pacific potpourri of people-moving progress.
'55 Buick Wildcat "Leaves em standing."

This was when car shows were really exciting. Today, they're a bore. My father took me to the Pan Pacific Motorama was dazzling. You could see a vision of the near future. Sadly, that future didn't pan out the way we thought it would.

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