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ethereal_reality May 17, 2017 2:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7807454)
Perhaps street lights around Union Square were deemed sufficient, and the sign was never installed:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original

March 6, 1905, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LAPL

FW, you're probably correct. :(

The electrical star/sign article was dated January 29th 1905.

You can find it here:
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=...are%22-------1

Like you, I was unaware the area was called 'Union Square'.

That said, it's difficult to locate anything pertaining to Los Angeles' Union Square. You have to sift through hundreds, if not thousands, of articles
pertaining to San Francisco's Union Square, and to some extent New York's Union Square (even in Californian newspapers)

Although I did find a mention of Union Square in this article from the Los Angeles Herald dated Nov. 15, 1918.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/kXVObk.jpg
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=...are%22-------1

So we know the area was called 'Union Square' as late as 1918.
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DViator May 17, 2017 5:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7807084)
Actually, the square has been cleared. I hope they've planned something nice. It's such a pretty area:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/OB...=w1366-h344-no
gsv jan 2017

I found this: http://www.scpr.org/news/2016/09/08/...iangle-revamp/

tovangar2 May 17, 2017 5:51 PM

Union Square /Hoover Triangle
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DViator (Post 7807927)

:previous:

That's great, but I do wish they'd call it Union Square. "Hoover Triangle" is not exactly melodious (or historic).

There's another article here

Anyone who wants to write to Councilmember Cedillo to encourage an historic name change can do so here:

councilmember.cedillo@lacity.org

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7806987)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7807454)
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original

March 6, 1905, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LAPL


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/TR...w=w549-h122-no
Los Angeles Herald, Volume 32, Number 138, 16 February 1905

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5K...A=w366-h396-no
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9K...w=w350-h237-no
Los Angeles Herald, Volume 32, Number 302, 30 July 1905


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/KJ...A=w349-h420-no
Los Angeles Herald, Volume 32, Number 337, 3 September 1905
(2417 S Hoover)


From a list of new incorporations, Los Angeles Herald, Volume 33, Number 121, 30 January 1906:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ol...TQ=w345-h81-no
(they built the Union Theater)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/fN...Q=w915-h187-no
Los Angeles Herald, Volume 36, Number 124, 2 February 1909

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/D9...A=w659-h130-no
Los Angeles Herald, Volume 36, Number 246, 4 June 1909

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/c_...g=w722-h268-no
Los Angeles Herald, Volume 37, Number 44, 14 November 1909

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/fF...A=w677-h214-no
Los Angeles Herald, Volume 37, Number 58, 28 November 1909

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nJ...g=w512-h434-no
Los Angeles Herald, Volume 33, Number 8, 9 October 1910

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jf...g=w736-h130-no
Los Angeles Herald, Number 34, 9 November 1912

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/X0...w=w628-h113-no
Los Angeles Herald, Number 306, 23 September 1913

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Nm...A=w602-h127-no
Los Angeles Herald, Number 322, 11 October 1913


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/N_...w=w604-h110-no
Los Angeles Herald, Number 332, 23 October 1913

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Tl...g=w444-h421-no
Los Angeles Herald, Number 74, 27 January 1914

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Dm...Q=w293-h610-no
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Ob...A=w291-h561-no
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/uT...Q=w294-h565-no
Los Angeles Herald, Number 167, 15 May 1914

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/21...w=w434-h501-no
Los Angeles Herald, Number 173, 22 May 1914

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/0S...g=w230-h403-no
Los Angeles Herald, Number 179, 29 May 1914

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Nh...Q=w574-h107-no
Los Angeles Herald, Number 188, 9 June 1914

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/q-...w=w559-h106-no
Los Angeles Herald, Number 209, 3 July 1914


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/w2...w=w647-h223-no
Los Angeles Herald, Number 56, 6 January 1916 Edition 02


Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7807652)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vK...tQ=w750-h84-no
Los Angeles Herald, Number 152, 27 April 1918

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ra...A=w676-h102-no
Los Angeles Herald, Number 124, 25 March 1920


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/U3...w=w255-h525-no
Los Angeles Herald, Number 102, 28 February 1920
(2412 S Hoover)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/zH...g=w584-h152-no
Los Angeles Herald, Number 127, 29 March 1920

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/qB...w=w566-h166-no
Los Angeles Herald, Number 291, 6 October 1921

HossC May 17, 2017 7:00 PM

Just two photos from Julius Shulman today. They're from "Job 15: Thompson and Barnum, Pan American World Airways, Inc. offices, 1947".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

The other image is a reverse shot looking out.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

Both from Getty Research Institute

The 506 above the door is 506 W 6th Street. J A Hogle & Co, seen through the window, was at 507 W 6th Street. The Pan American offices were close neighbors of American President Lines, which I posted pictures of just over a year ago. The full post is here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7334888)

Today we have Julius Shulman's views of American President Lines. The first shot makes the narrow store look deceptively small. This is "Job 20: W. Dorwin Teague, American President Lines, Ltd. (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1947".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

Getty Research Institute

I found American President Lines at 510 W 6th Street in the 1942 CD.


ethereal_reality May 17, 2017 8:47 PM

:previous: I love seeing photographs of the old ticketing offices Hoss.


What is this in the P.A.A. office? At first I thought it was a camera for passport photos.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/dkJb4w.jpg
detail

Nevermind: It's a payphone isn't it. Duh

What threw me off was the metal 'screen' that it's attached to (I pictured them moving it around)


One other thing:

I thought that was a cab driving by, but it's a reflection of the P.A.A. globe. (but why aren't the letters backward... -if it's a reflection?

(it's painted on the front window right? If so, wouldn't it be backward when viewed from outside. (I'm obviously looking at it wrong, somehow)

HossC May 17, 2017 8:58 PM

:previous:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7808145)

I thought that was a cab driving by, but it's a reflection of the P.A.A. globe. (but why isn't it backwards... -if it's a reflection?

(its on the front window right?

I think it's an opaque sticker on the front window that's printed on both sides.

Flyingwedge May 17, 2017 9:02 PM

Alfred Glassell home at 2245 W. 25th Street
 
Alfred Leigh Glassell was a son of Andrew Glassell.

The home at 2245 W. 25th Street was built in 1905; it appears to be in the final stages of construction here:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...k.jpg~original
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...o.jpg~original

March 2, 1905, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LAPL


Here's the completed home (looking up the Glassell driveway you can see the Garnsey house at 2241 W. 24th Street
in the distance):

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...m.jpg~original

October 1906 The Architect and Engineer of California @ Google Books


http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...k.jpg~original

October 1906 The Architect and Engineer of California @ Google Books


This is the living room:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...7.jpg~original

October 1906 The Architect and Engineer of California @ Google Books


Sadly, Alfred Glassell was already dead by the time the last three photos were published:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...y.jpg~original

find a grave


In fact, he only lived in his home on 25th Street for a few months ("Tuesday evening" was October 31, 1905):

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...r.jpg~original

November 2, 1905, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LAPL


http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...p.jpg~original

November 3, 1905, Los Angeles Herald @ CDNC


Glassell's widow apparently stayed at the house into 1906, but she was gone by the next year.
Some people named Roberts moved in then.

Eventually the house was home to the Cimarron Zen Center:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...u.jpg~original

March-April 1979 Yoga Journal @ Google Books


The Googlemobile hasn't been down that block of 25th Street since March 2015.
It looks like 2245's roof has a crack with some razor wire next to it:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...r.jpg~original

GSV

ethereal_reality May 17, 2017 9:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7808154)
I think it's an opaque sticker on the front window that's printed on both sides.

That makes sense.

The P.A.A. and 'Wing' would be on the opposite side of the globe.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320...922/Jp8pRW.jpg



The old Pan Am Airways logo always had the wing on the right side of the globe.....that's what threw me off.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320...923/XS2Y0P.jpg




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ethereal_reality May 17, 2017 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar
I do wish they'd call it Union Square. "Hoover Triangle" is not exactly melodious (or historic).

Anyone who wants to write to Councilmember Cedillo to encourage an historic name change can do so here:

councilmember.cedillo@lacity.org

The name 'Hoover Triangle' is awful!

t2, did you include any of our 'Union Square' research when you emailed the councilman?
(maybe they weren't aware the area used to be known as 'Union Square')
--



p.s. Would it be too much to ask for the electric sign. ;)

ethereal_reality May 17, 2017 10:35 PM

Has anyone heard of this unique bridge with 41 portraits?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/21z8U5.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pasadena-CA-...cAAOSwBt5ZGgZl

I don't remember if there were any gullies or ravines on the property. --or where this bridge might have been located
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HossC May 17, 2017 10:59 PM

:previous:

I think this is the Picture Bridge - it looks to be about the right size.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Google Maps

Here's a more recent image.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Pinterest

ethereal_reality May 17, 2017 11:42 PM

:previous: Hey it's still there! Thanks Hoss.

Am I the only one who didn't know about the picture bridge ?

tovangar2 May 17, 2017 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7808233)
The name 'Hoover Triangle' is awful!

t2, did you include any of our 'Union Square' research when you emailed the councilman?
(maybe they weren't aware the area used to be known as 'Union Square')
--



p.s. Would it be too much to ask for the electric sign. ;)




Yes, I did include yours and Flyingwedge's articles. I've added more to my post above (maybe I'll forward them). The name "Union Square" was in common usage for years, including as the name of some businesses. I don't know what happened to it. No mention of Union Square in the Herald after 1921.

I don't think the electric sign is too much to ask, but Cedillo might! I'm always writing to him. He's probably sick of me.

"Hoover Triangle" is so clunky, I can't imagine using that name.

ethereal_reality May 18, 2017 12:13 AM

'mystery' fire. [1959]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/H2RBb4.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-VINTAGE-8X...AAAOSwB-1Yrejv


The fire occurred on one of the dates below.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/t8qBl3.jpg



The other two photos are unrelated fires.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/TiQ3Lb.jpghttp://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/ls6MsV.jpg

Check out all three photos here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-VINTAGE-8X...AAAOSwB-1Yrejv

Paul C. Koehler May 18, 2017 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdiederi (Post 6148909)
Here's another interesting photo of the Gerald Desmond, not sure what's going on with that plane in the water. Don't know the date, but the old-style cargo crane suggests it was a few decades ago.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...pse29395a7.jpg
http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/wor...te-bridge.html

And another of the pontoon bridge. There are still working oil wells in that area.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...pse3fe9736.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...d/90456/rec/24


I've been driving across the Gerald Desmond twice a week lately and posted a photo of the construction for the new bridge in the Los Angeles Metro Development thread. So far they are just drilling holes in the ground still and will probably take another four or five years to complete.

Post 14915 of 5/31/13 by mdiederi. The plane is Howard Huges's "Spruce Goose" probably getting ready to lift on the barge for the trip to Oregon. The crain "TD 171" is one of four 200 ton floating crains taken from Germany after WW II and was stationed at the Navy base Long Beach. After the closing of the base it was sold to the Panama Canal as I saw it two years ago on a cruise.

Paul C. Koehler

ScottyB May 18, 2017 2:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7808302)
:previous: Hey it's still there! Thanks Hoss.

Am I the only one who didn't know about the picture bridge ?

Stomping grounds for me.....we used fantasize about jumping from the bridge into the pool. (we never did!)

CityBoyDoug May 18, 2017 3:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7808273)
:previous:

I think this is the Picture Bridge - it looks to be about the right size.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Google Maps

I went swimming at the Huntington Hotel Pool a few times. What I remember most is the course Bermuda grass they had around the pool area. I had never seen that before. It may have been Tifway 419. There are over a dozen common varieties.

Flyingwedge May 18, 2017 4:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7808323)

The big photo shows the Robert Louis Stevenson Jr. High School building ("abandoned because of weakened foundations")
being burned in a test by the LA Fire Department on May 17, 1959. There's another photo here at lafire.com's page on
Engine Co. No. 28 (click "Fire Station 28" at left, then on the small "1913-1969" link under the first photo for more info).


2021 Update: I recognized this same building in the 1960 LA Fire Department film Our Obligation, which is about safety
in schools. The color film is at YouTube, here: https://youtu.be/XjiXj2qIfLQ

Bristolian May 18, 2017 1:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7807276)

I recently came across this undated postcard on ebay.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/0qgQHS.jpg
ebay




The address is the Odd Fellows Hall just southwest of downtown.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/jZkRXS.jpg
gsv

We have visited this awesome building numerous times on NLA.

At one time there was also a radio station on the roof.

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There is also an Odd Fellows Cemetery on Whittier Boulevard right off Interstate 5.

http://i.imgur.com/ifP1YrH.jpg?1
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/f...r&CRid=1424733

http://i.imgur.com/curKwQ8.png?1Google Maps

MartinTurnbull May 18, 2017 2:32 PM

Original Brown Derby restaurant on Wilshire Blvd under construction, 1926
 
https://martinturnbull.com/wp-conten...-1926-copy.jpg

I don't think we've seen this one before, so excuse me if we have.

A rare shot of the original Brown Derby restaurant on 3427 Wilshire Blvd (between Mariposa and Alexandria( under construction in 1926 before it was later moved to 3377 Wilshire. It gives us an idea of how sparsely populated Wilshire Blvd was back then. There’s lots of empty fields and elbowroom—little wonder it was dotted with billboards, like that one we can see for Frigidaire.


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