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Kamms Oct 12, 2022 11:56 PM

There’s 2 lots here with W. Court Pl cutting thru the middle of the site. Hoping with a new plan we’ll see the smaller, north lot go residential/hotel >1000’ and the south lot along Washington can be your 800’ office building.

Always seemed like an odd site to combine for one fat ass tower IMO. Maybe as demand creeps up like we’re seeing, someone could see my vision thru.

Randomguy34 Nov 25, 2022 7:54 PM

This project is still alive, and damn do the new renderings look good!

PD: https://gisapps.chicago.gov/gisimage...pds/PD1293.pdf

mh777 Nov 25, 2022 8:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Randomguy34 (Post 9799512)
This project is still alive, and damn do the new renderings look good!

PD: https://gisapps.chicago.gov/gisimage...pds/PD1293.pdf

Woah! Looks like they were granted a 1 year extension to find an anchor tenant. JP Morgan Chase anyone?

JMKeynes Nov 25, 2022 8:17 PM

Very nice.

rgarri4 Nov 25, 2022 8:26 PM

Nice. I like the interchanging terraces. It'll bring some variety to the loop. I kinda wish there were more of them, however then it would start to look like those Aqua copycats in Toronto.

lakeshoredrive Nov 25, 2022 8:49 PM

Still too short. Needs to be 900 feet or taller to stand out...

thegoatman Nov 25, 2022 8:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lakeshoredrive (Post 9799545)
Still too short. Needs to be 900 feet or taller to stand out...

if there was a west loop-esque boom happening downtown I would say that, but its been quiet as hell development wise over there so we better just take what we can get...

if this was any other city, a 700 footer would be skyline changing. But here it's just infill. Either way, hope to see this massive vacant lot bite the dust

Zapatan Nov 25, 2022 9:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mh777 (Post 9799525)
Woah! Looks like they were granted a 1 year extension to find an anchor tenant. JP Morgan Chase anyone?

If that does happen I hope they go much taller. 730' in the middle of the Chicago loop is so underwhelming. Insofar that a 12 - 1,300 footer would really be more ideal.


The terraces do look cool though, other than that it's just a blue box. Way too many blue boxes in this area.

Ricochet48 Nov 25, 2022 11:57 PM

Wow love the wavy terraces, this new render looks great! Hope it gets built.

sentinel Nov 26, 2022 2:55 PM

https://chicagoyimby.com/2022/11/red...-the-loop.html

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https://chicagoyimby.com/wp-content/...6-1024x556.png

https://chicagoyimby.com/wp-content/...7-1024x657.png

I really dig this

rivernorthlurker Nov 26, 2022 3:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sentinel (Post 9799898)

Phenomenal if they build it. I'm so scared of the VE axe though. But this is great news that they've actively put some serious time into the redesign. That 20th floor roof/restaurant whatever would be a 10/10 as would be the terraced gardens on the lower floors.

Is there any info on square footage? I didn't see any in the pdf. I'm gonna guess 1.3 million as those bottom floor plates are very bulky. I would love to see a hotel component on this site but I'll take this any day.

UrbanDweller98 Nov 26, 2022 3:14 PM

730' at this location is so meh. The terraces and sky garden are cool at least, hopefully it won't be dumbed down if they find a tenant.

Still hoping JP Morgan Chase chooses this location and gives us a 900' signature Tower...one can hope.

marothisu Nov 26, 2022 3:56 PM

That big terrace is pretty cool, but the rest of it reminds me of a regular glass box apartment or condo building.

BVictor1 Nov 26, 2022 5:28 PM

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Originally Posted by marothisu (Post 9799928)
That big terrace is pretty cool, but the rest of it reminds me of a regular glass box apartment or condo building.

That’s my sentiment. I need to see renderings of the other side. The flat facade comes off as extremely boring. I almost hope Related/WL lands Chase, but we’ll see.

Steely Dan Nov 26, 2022 5:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sentinel (Post 9799898)

Thank Pizza God that ultra-boring placeholder design in the middle is gone forever.

The new design looks promising, but as someone else mentioned, it looks ripe for the VE hatchet.

Zapatan Nov 26, 2022 6:20 PM

The middle design was super boring, glad that's no longer a thing.

The balconies of the new one kind of remind me of something out of Singapore, they're pretty cool and I hope they remain untouched.

It's sad how negative everything is surrounding development is these days. A semi decent proposal arises and the immediate (yet unfortunately realistic) reaction is that it must be too good to be true and we'll be VE'd to death.


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Still hoping JP Morgan Chase chooses this location and gives us a 900' signature Tower...one can hope.
Given their baller NYC tower, they go big, and have deep pockets.

900' is also meh and really is not much on the global stage these days, or in Chicago.

marothisu Nov 26, 2022 6:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 9799967)
That’s my sentiment. I need to see renderings of the other side. The flat facade comes off as extremely boring. I almost hope Related/WL lands Chase, but we’ll see.

Yeah for sure. I think for JPMC, it would be somewhat of a statement piece. Probably not as good as the under construction new NYC HQ building, but it has to be visible. Word on the street is that Dimon wanted to compete with the new B of A and BMO buildings right? So why would JPMC abandon their 850 foot tower for a 730 foot one that's even less visible? The West Loop space makes more sense from that specific to be honest, unless they want to add about 300 more feet onto this one.

And yeah the top portion is incredibly boxy and boring. The bottom portion is only cool because of that cool terrace portion. And the terraces up from an office perspective aren't even practical for a lot. In one of my company's buildings in NYC, there's a big terrace on the 16th floor but we never once used it out of abundance of caution/danger. They refused any of us to step out there.

Zapatan Nov 26, 2022 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by marothisu (Post 9800005)
So why would JPMC abandon their 850 foot tower for a 730 foot one that's even less visible? The West Loop space makes more sense from that specific to be honest, unless they want to add about 300 more feet onto this one.

Yea it's a total waste of a site, but it's not known whether Chase will anchor it. If they do, hopefully they'll want a signature tower in the area, being Chase.

They'll probably put a logo on it though (which I personally wouldn't mind).

rgarri4 Nov 26, 2022 11:36 PM

Was there ever an impression that there would be an 800' or higher skyscraper here? From what I've seen all of the proposals from the past 10 or so years have always been around the same height.

Randomguy34 Nov 26, 2022 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rgarri4 (Post 9800155)
Was there ever an impression that there would be an 800' or higher skyscraper here? From what I've seen all of the proposals from the past 10 or so years have always been around the same height.

No, people on the forum just wished it would be taller


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