Gotta get the PRs out before the holidays!

I agree - always good, however... Data Centers don’t bring very many jobs - maybe 20-25 tops. Doesn’t take all that much to run one. And they don’t necessarily pay as much as other types of tech work either.

There’s already a handful of other data centers in the area - so this will be a pretty decent addition.

https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/...r-airport.html

Looks like the old Sacred Heart Church and that big empty lot are going to be developed into an office building and, apparently the church will come back into full service.

The land has been vacant for nearly 30 years.

I'm told December 31st is the last day of business for Los Olivos car wash

Any speculation on what is going there? I think you said apartments. Another 5-story? Any ground floor retail? It would be a huge miss if they didn't have ground floor retail at that intersection.

Thanks for the update. Glad that lot is getting a more dense development...

But going to really miss Los Olivos.

they're still undecided. They are able to go as high as six stories and want to do all concrete construction condos but still "assessing". The developer is real. Lots of indecision.

I wouldn't expect any retail there, he doesn't want to get into commercial leasing.

Big deal if they move forward with and all concrete construction! Fingers crossed.

I don't think it's feasible, he insists it will be. He also insists he will do a high-end building much nicer than enHance but again I don't think he's done a good enough cost analysis.

So frustrating. While I can appreciate the sentiment of 'preserving the neighborhood' blah blah, and added traffic is usually the first place where they hang their hat, a more pleasant walkable area is dependent first and foremost on density. That requires denser zoning. :)

On a different thread or to a different argument I might assert that you can't just wish cars would disappear and expect it to happen as a result. You need a vision and zoning that would define areas of stability and areas of change. Areas of change permitting higher density would logically be near certain intersections or along busier corridors... and 7th and Bethany would be ideal. As denser development occurs then it would justify a BRT route that included more intense green street improvements in those areas that are denser. Then cars won't be the only or best alternative... and yes the differences between ordinary bus service and BRT are proving to be worth the investment and a difference maker.

Agree

Correct. They are not renewing any memberships. The 31st is the last day to use gift cards/memberships.

After reading your other posts, I would be disappointed if this wasn't 8 floors and concrete construction as first stated. I also think the owner should include 1 or 2 retail spots in this area as I think they would do really well on that corner.

Is there any chance they could back out? it would suck to lose Los Olivos and nothing happen.

You guys are all so sad Los Olivos is closing, I keep trying to get my car washed there and it's so busy I give up. Today they told me when I was already in line "we're just letting everyone know it's about a 90 minute wait today".

I left.

I think they are laying off workers in anticipation of the closure because for the last month or so it's been overwhelmingly busy.

I came to the conclusion about six months ago that the only way to avoid a long wait at Los Olivos was to arrive half an hour before the morning opening time. It reminds me of the way Pizzeria Bianco used to be, before additional locations opened and lunch service was added.

I'm not sad it's closing. I don't even go there. But I do think it would suck if they closed shop, let go of a bunch of employees and then nothing was built and we end up with an empty building or parking lot.

I hope that's not the case, but the last few posts made it sound like the new owner was not confident on what to build. Not usually a good sign. :(

They wouldn't go through all this unless they planned to build something.

I've been waiting for this for quite some time and finally happening. Just saw on AZ Wilderness' Instagram account that they are opening a new downtown location, taking over the old DWF Wholesale Florist building (201 E Roosevelt St). It says coming Spring 2019. Four Peaks and San Tan, you're next! Between Pedaulhaus, State 48 Brewing Co, and now Arizona Wilderness Brewing Co, finally some real breweries coming to downtown.

http://azwildernessbrewing.blogspot.com/
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wj5tBMNEU...Broosevelt.jpg

Four Peaks wont move but I could imagine them opening up a tap-room and restaurant downtown.

Sorry yeah that's what I meant. Not moving entirely but opening another tap room/restaurant downtown.

Forgot to mention

Great spot! Removing another empty building right next to all the apartments now at 3rd and Roosevelt this place will be popular

Definitely! I guess we can expect Revolver Records right next door to be next or at least the land.