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FredH Jan 21, 2014 9:11 PM

1966 - From Flower Street, rear view of YMCA building at 715 South Hope Street. with its prominent rooftop sign. Building to the left is being demolished.
(this photo was taken the same day as my post #19015)

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=19015


https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/94...0/855/jbs9.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/7705/rec/32


https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/51...0/823/ri2x.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/7705/rec/32


https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/59...0/607/svu9.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/7705/rec/32




1970 - Demolishing the YMCA from the inside, top to bottom. Roosevelt Building to the left with Crocker Citizens Bank in the background.


https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...0/541/nlu4.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/7700/rec/31


I believe that is the One Wilshire building behind the YMCA building

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/93...0/713/xb29.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/7700/rec/31


https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/92...90/40/i1t8.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/7700/rec/31

Flyingwedge Jan 21, 2014 9:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6415549)
Keep 'em coming, FredH--it's not just that you post the pictures, it's your expert building id's...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6415848)
I couldn't agree more. Your identifications have been superb FredH. Thanks for all your hard work.
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The building IDs are copied word-for-word from the Huntington website.

And let's credit Beaudry with introducing us to the Conner Palmer collection and first showing us the color shot of Martz flats: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=15645

ethereal_reality Jan 21, 2014 9:51 PM

We've seen the trackless trolley numerous times, but I am unsure if we've encountered the Bungalow Inn. (sign behind the trolley)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/199/p4yr.jpgebay
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ProphetM Jan 21, 2014 11:17 PM

RE: Ethereal's 2012 post, since it was brought back up...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5589914)
I recently found these snapshots of a construction site at 1250 N. Main Street dated 1943.

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/1...in1943ebay.jpg
ebay



http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/3...n1943ebay1.jpg
ebay





below: I googled the address and found the building still intact at N. Main & Elmyra Street.

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/3...eelmyrast1.jpg
google street view




http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/692...teelmyrast.jpg
google street view


Anyone interested in glimpses of the roof area and interior of this building should take a look at the TV show NCIS, season 6, episode 15, "Deliverance". This building is the site of the murder that the team is investigating. A lot of scenes also take place in the housing project next door. If you know where to look, you can even spot a tiny bit of NCIS's fake "PCs" gang graffiti in Google Street View.

ethereal_reality Jan 21, 2014 11:42 PM

I recently found this interesting and rare postcard of the Seminole Apt. Hotel
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/690/mjxy.jpgebay

Here is a rear view among a group of other signs.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/196/1m76.jpg




The Seminole is in the center. (Beaudry confirmed this is the Seminole for me back in 2011)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/835/xl1b.jpg
ebay/originally posted in 2011


Here it is from a different angle. (notice the same house in both photos)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/716/ieun.jpg
posted by Chuckaluck at http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8747
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ethereal_reality Jan 21, 2014 11:47 PM

...some great information on the Seminole by Beaudry.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 5152497)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5054/...9e9b1be0_o.jpg

from http://www.csulb.edu/~odinthor/socal10a.html -- this is a fascinating postcard because it bears no relation to reality. Most postcards don't; and that's ok. But taking "artistic license" and putting it on a corner? Puh-leeeze. Gratuitous fanciful rooftop signage is a hallmark of early hotel postcards but -- placing it on a corner, was that supposed to entice out-of-town rubes to whom the card was sent? In any event, there was in fact an alley to the south of the Seminole. That the postcard makes it look like a street we'll chalk up to Angeleno boosterism.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5094/...09cecc37_o.jpg

Guess who built the Seminole? R. B. Young & Son, who built the Young Apts I wrote about earlier today. It opens in the spring of 1911. 72 apartments of two and three rooms each, and 12 single rooms. The exterior was of red pressed brick and marble trimmings. The Orenas being the wealthy Spanish family who owned the block.


What's most notable in your eBay image e_r is that they've added the large Franco-Renaissance northern addition to the Seminole
(yep, all one structure according to atlases of the times). I further drool over the cast iron & glass marquis.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/835/xl1b.jpg
ebay

Now go back (scroll up) to that image and look at that lone house at 630 S Flower. The houses next to it have had their driveways laid out, but they're still empty lots. By the car I'd guess this to be about...1915? I'm no car expert. But I think I'm about right. And the reason those plots are empty? Our current economic sitch is nothing compared to the Panic of 1910, much less the Recession of 1913-14, where business and trade activity dropped 20-25%. Lest we forget the insane downturn of 1918-19 due to the postwar unemployment jazz. (Never ceases to amuse that people think that whatever's happening now is somehow the a) first and b) worst it has or ever will happen...) In any event, empty plots with driveways. Telling. I still can't believe I don't own this image. I always marry the inquisitive to the acquisitive. So sue me.


radio63 Jan 22, 2014 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WS1911 (Post 6414982)
The tower on the right, as several have already commented, is of LA High School. I graduated from LA High in the summer of 1967 and the earthquake occurred less than four years later. The building was demolished that year and my alma mater is forever gone. If the quake had occurred in 2014, I feel almost certain that the building would have been repaired, restored and made earthquake resistant. The 1970s was not a good time for historic preservation and there is not much to be said about the present school building.

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I have seen this picture of the LA High Tower before. I have always wondered why they tore everything down around it first, gutted the bottom part of the tower, and essentially left the completed tower standing like this before finishing it off. It sure looks unstable on those skinny columns. Anyone know why they did this, or how the final demolition of the tower was handled? Dynamited? Pulled down with a bulldozer? It's really odd how they did this.

ethereal_reality Jan 22, 2014 12:34 AM

A fascinating 1938 sepia image I found on ebay last night.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...0/835/sogt.jpg



full size
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/835/sogt.jpg

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ethereal_reality Jan 22, 2014 12:38 AM

...and another.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...0/542/10ul.jpg
ebay



full size (also 1938)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/542/10ul.jpg


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ethereal_reality Jan 22, 2014 12:46 AM

...and one more. (perhaps less interesting than the first two)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...0/713/5nn8.jpgebay



full size. 1938
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/713/5nn8.jpg

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ethereal_reality Jan 22, 2014 1:07 AM

Mac's, 1953
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...90/11/d30i.jpgebay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/38/as25.jpg



Mac's came pretty close to being destroyed by the Harbor Freeway.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/839/dlzy.jpg
google earth




The building today.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/38/l1xy.jpgGSV

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GaylordWilshire Jan 22, 2014 1:22 AM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2...2520PM.bmp.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M...2520PM.bmp.jpg


I noticed that Thom Andersen's remastered "Los Angeles Plays Itself" is at the IFC this week, so went to see it today. It definitely holds your attention for the approx 2:45 running time, at least it does for those interested in LA history. Andersen's narration is sometimes a little annoying--for instance, one thing that grinds his gears is the city being called by its initials (he says something like "only a city with an inferiority complex would allow itself to be called by its initials," which seems pretty silly to me)--and he seems to forget that movies are not literal...anyway, what I think he needs to do is to start hanging around NLA. Above are two screenshots from Los Angeles Plays Itself (NOT L.A Plays Itself). His narration states that the scenes, from 1931's Public Enemy with Cagney & Harlow, depict the stars in front of Bullocks-Wilshire, even mentioning that the store was opened in September 1929. However...he has placed the scene a little too far east. Who can identify the correct location?


The whole film can be seen on youtube--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATvOyAdrDB0

ethereal_reality Jan 22, 2014 1:33 AM

Wilshire Blvd. service station 1920s (is it the one with the dome and color tiles we recently discussed?) I forget the name.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/542/8vkh.jpg

-seller mentions the 'visible' (glass top) pump on the right. I'll mention the handsome attendant on the left. ;)
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ethereal_reality Jan 22, 2014 1:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6416626)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M...2520PM.bmp.jpg

His narration states that the scenes, from 1931's Public Enemy with Cagney & Harlow, depict the stars in front of Bullocks-Wilshire, even mentioning that the store was opened in September 1929. However...he has placed the scene a little too far east. Who can identify the correct location?

Is it the Desmond's Building GW?
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/542/0xkk.jpg
GSV

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GaylordWilshire Jan 22, 2014 2:21 AM

:previous:

You got it, ER. Now who's going to tell Andersen?

ethereal_reality Jan 22, 2014 2:29 AM

Do you have his phone number? ;)

FredH Jan 22, 2014 4:07 AM

1966 - The 1924 and 1960 Gas Company buildings on the right, 800-810 block of South Flower Street. Across 8th
Street, the Congress Hotel in ochre and the Hotel Armondale in white. The large building in distance is the 1927
Roosevelt building by Curlett and Beelman.

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/76...0/853/bymw.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/7684/rec/10

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/96...0/690/qc78.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/7684/rec/10

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/88...0/853/ze3w.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/7684/rec/10

FredH Jan 22, 2014 4:28 AM

1966 - Cleveland Wrecking Company demolishing the 705 South Hope Street building at the southwest corner of 7th and Hope Streets. At the
same intersection corner sits a shoe shine stall and a Winkys fast food stand. The 1925 Renaissance Revival style Barker Brothers building with
its vertically oriented sign sits on the next block.

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/96...90/35/4ubo.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/7682/rec/22

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/92...0/856/4zg4.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/7682/rec/22

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/98...90/89/cy9a.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/7682/rec/22

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/72...0/571/cysg.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/7682/rec/22

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/94...0/547/hjt1.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/7682/rec/22

FredH Jan 22, 2014 4:42 AM

1961 - Two blocks of Commercial Street from Main Street to Los Angeles Street to San Pedro Street. Security First National
Bank branch, 302 North Main Street, is at left.

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/81...90/14/rj6d.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6276/rec/2

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/10...0/138/os3l.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6276/rec/2

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/47...90/42/4l5h.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6276/rec/2

Flyingwedge Jan 22, 2014 4:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 6416938)
1961 - Two blocks of Commercial Street from Main Street to Los Angeles Street to San Pedro Street. Security First National
Bank branch, 302 North Main Street, is at left.

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/81...90/14/rj6d.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6276/rec/2

Oops . . . another one Beaudry already showed us: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=16325


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