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k1052 Jun 30, 2022 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainJilliams (Post 9663831)
I must say, I was pleasantly surprised to hear this news...

Chicago’s Protected Bike Lanes Will Get Concrete Barriers By End Of 2023, City Says

"The city will add concrete barriers to 15 miles of bike lanes by the end of 2022 and make the same upgrades to another 13 miles by the end of 2023, said Erica Schroeder, spokesperson for the Chicago Department of Transportation. Those 28 miles of bike lanes currently have bollard or delineators separating them from the roadway, Schroeder said.

The city also will add another 10 miles of new protected bike lanes this year, totaling 45 miles of lanes throughout the city with either a concrete barrier, bollard or delineator, Schroeder said."

Yeah well the city has a rather long history of overpromising on this front so we'll see.

twister244 Jun 30, 2022 2:50 PM

So - I think the city has officially begun working on this....

I was walking from Clark/Lake to WeWork this morning and saw yellow barriers with fresh paint on Wacker between Clark/Dearborn (I think?). Not sure how I feel about the look about the yellow barriers though. In any event, definitely reflects this effort from what I can tell.

streetline Jul 2, 2022 1:49 PM

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Originally Posted by twister244 (Post 9664187)
So - I think the city has officially begun working on this....

I was walking from Clark/Lake to WeWork this morning and saw yellow barriers with fresh paint on Wacker between Clark/Dearborn (I think?). Not sure how I feel about the look about the yellow barriers though. In any event, definitely reflects this effort from what I can tell.

I believe the yellow jersey barriers on Wacker are part of temporary bike lane detour while the Dearborn bridge is under construction, and were put up before the announcement about adding concrete to all protected bike lanes.

You should not expect the concrete protections elsewhere to look like that.

Tcmetro Jul 2, 2022 2:32 PM

From what I understand the concrete barriers are basically going to be similar to the ones in parking lots that are anchored into the ground.

twister244 Jul 3, 2022 5:59 PM

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Originally Posted by streetline (Post 9665734)
I believe the yellow jersey barriers on Wacker are part of temporary bike lane detour while the Dearborn bridge is under construction, and were put up before the announcement about adding concrete to all protected bike lanes.

You should not expect the concrete protections elsewhere to look like that.

Oh thank god.....

I was worried that was going to be how the city was going to implement all of this. It looks tacky..... Thanks for clarifying!

VKChaz Jul 5, 2022 3:39 PM

fyi:
APTA first quarter ridership report for major systems was posted recently. Ridership will show sizable increases compared to height of COVID. Digging through the archive provides a sense of longer-term trends.

https://www.apta.com/research-techni...ership-report/

LA21st Jul 7, 2022 3:45 PM

I noticed a new el line track or something (?) near Wrigley field yesterday. What the hell is that?

galleyfox Jul 7, 2022 3:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LA21st (Post 9669931)
I noticed a new el line track or something (?) near Wrigley field yesterday. What the hell is that?

The Red Line is being reconstructed

https://www.transitchicago.com/asset...tion_FINAL.png

https://www.transitchicago.com/asset..._Map_(002).jpg
https://www.transitchicago.com/rpm/

OhioGuy Jul 7, 2022 4:11 PM

Chicago Union Station upgrades

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I’m at a press conference at Union Station where Mayor Lightfoot, Senator Durban and Congressman Garcia, and others leaders will announce upgrades to Chicago Union Station.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXEou3eW...pg&name=medium
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Randomguy34 Jul 7, 2022 6:44 PM

A $418 million price tag to implement new flyovers, through-running, and purchase freight tracks is surprisingly cheap. If trains from the East Coast are using the South Shore Line tracks, it might justify reopening South Bend's Union Station as well.

ardecila Jul 8, 2022 2:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Randomguy34 (Post 9670119)
A $418 million price tag to implement new flyovers, through-running, and purchase freight tracks is surprisingly cheap. If trains from the East Coast are using the South Shore Line tracks, it might justify reopening South Bend's Union Station as well.

This is wildly overstating what the grant will fund.

-1 new single-track ramp from the St Charles Air Line into Union Station
-refurbishment of 4 Union Station mail platforms for Amtrak
-rebuild of 16th St Junction
-new Amtrak platform at Joliet on the Rock Island tracks
-purchase of UP's Canal St Yard in Chinatown
-a few miles of double-track along the Wolverine in Michigan

That's it. No through-running, no purchase of freight tracks from CN. Those will require hundred of millions more. Even the Amtrak connection to the South Shore in Indiana is not funded yet. As for South Bend, that's a whole separate thing.

Randomguy34 Jul 8, 2022 5:03 PM

Ah gotcha, Metra CEO's said in a press release that this would be opportunity to consider through-running, so I assumed that was folded into this grant.

Press release: https://www.durbin.senate.gov/newsro...access-project

thegoatman Aug 2, 2022 4:55 PM

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Originally Posted by west-town-brad (Post 9691820)
I would venture a guess that "car-centric" is what the voters in those areas want. Also why those same alderman don't like the speed cameras giving an automatic ticket at 5 mph over the speed limit.

There are so many corridors in the southside that could be like 53rd st in HP, 18th st in Pilsen, Clark in Wrigleyville, etc. but the leadership is simply not there. The alderman in these neighborhoods are content with failing schools, rampant crime, car centric development, and any type of progression. There are parts of the southside that look the same as it did in the 70s and 80s. sad

One of the quickest ways to attract investment to a neighborhood is by making it more walkable and transit friendly. The red line extension should be coming, but they arent gonna start on that until 2025 which is a joke. It's been months since Biden passed his trillion dollar infrasturcture bill, they should at the minimum have some workers down at the sites right now.

galleyfox Aug 2, 2022 5:09 PM

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Originally Posted by thegoatman (Post 9691802)
I don't understand why the southside alderman are so car centric minded and less about walkability. Most of the black southside alderman were the ones who voted against the TOD proposal (along with a list of other bungalow neighborhood alderman). Do they not know the most desirable and sought out neighborhoods in the city are those that are dense and walkable? Yet they oppose this?? Make it make sense

Because their voting constituents are car crazy, just as much as the other bungalow neighborhoods and suburbs.

The nostalgia for post-war Englewood would have been the nice cars and department stores. Not the apartments or CTA.

A lot of my neighbors in South Chicago view taking the Metra as an eccentric activity for young people with money. The kindergartners next door regularly ask why I don’t take the car.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/histo...jqa-story.html
https://www.chicagotribune.com/histo...jqa-story.html

ardecila Aug 2, 2022 6:32 PM

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Originally Posted by thegoatman (Post 9691830)
One of the quickest ways to attract investment to a neighborhood is by making it more walkable and transit friendly. The red line extension should be coming, but they arent gonna start on that until 2025 which is a joke. It's been months since Biden passed his trillion dollar infrasturcture bill, they should at the minimum have some workers down at the sites right now.

The best answer to this is that Federal money is like a food court... CTA has had Red Line Extension waiting in the (very long/slow) New Starts line for many years, and now is getting close to the head of the line. They probably believe it's better to keep waiting in line rather than rush over to a different funding program where they might end up in the back of the line again.

That doesn't mean they aren't submitting other projects for the new pots of money, though! A few years ago, Dick Durbin created Core Capacity as a new pot of money... RPM on the North Side was the first project to be funded. Likewise in the Biden infra bill, Tammy Duckworth created ASAP for accessibility upgrades... I'm sure CTA will get a big chunk of that.

west-town-brad Aug 2, 2022 9:08 PM

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Originally Posted by thegoatman (Post 9691830)
It's been months since Biden passed his trillion dollar infrasturcture bill, they should at the minimum have some workers down at the sites right now.

:haha:

r18tdi Aug 2, 2022 9:24 PM

Has the CTA even secured the property and entitlements needed for the Red Line extension? I honestly don't know...

thegoatman Aug 2, 2022 9:40 PM

Honestly wish the CTA would fire Dorval Carter and bring in a Scandinavian, Asian, or other European transit expert who actually know what they're doing. Or an Andy Byford type who is clearly passionate and wants to improve the system. I think I read most of the people in CTA management barely have any transit experience, pathetic. Has anybody ever seen Dorval Carter on a train?

If I was CEO, I would make it a requirement for every employee to have to use the system. We never see the mayor, the ceo, or any other higher up figures on the trains, no wonder they could care less about it

pip Aug 3, 2022 2:08 AM

Expanding the Redline? Fix what you have now first. Clean it up and get the trains clean and safer and faster

marothisu Aug 3, 2022 2:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pip (Post 9692346)
Expanding the Redline? Fix what you have now first. Clean it up and get the trains clean and safer and faster

Agree, but I'm guessing the monies are earmarked towards certain uses like infrastructure improvements or expansion. AFAIK, the issues about the headways are more to do with staff shortages than anything else and not really to do with the infrastructure itself.


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