just for comparison, my insta friend in bali, indonesia, 2200k sq mi, 4.22M pop, says its not a big thing there, or isnt yet — they have 306 known cases as of today.

It's still more bang for less buck. The existing stimulus measures (which have been necessary and expedient but not well-targeted) don't cover much either. They don't give enough to the unemployed (iirc, 25 million new, 33 million total).

Two months would cover the worst of it for most places. Half the cost for another two months (we're still only up to $1.65 trillion) would cover much of the rest.

As places start to reopen (despite continued major outbreaks in some cases), the unemployment numbers could be dropping already. Yes with continued pain.

Completely unsubstantiated. Just yesterday our (normally dumbass) Premier reiterated that they want the US border closed for some time. This is obviously a Federal decision but the other Provinces seem to be adamant as well. They may be referring to extensions of closures which happen in 30 day chunks - there will almost definitely be more.

^ What about US exclaves in Canada? It might be a shitty time to live in Point Roberts right now...

I mean, by "closed" it doesn't mean there isn't any access. I'm sure people in those situations can get through, but a cottager going to the Bruce Peninsula will get turned back.

Maybe a stupid question and I can probably google it, but you folks are well traveled:

Can Americans travel to Europe right now?

No, not without a reason that meets the definition of essential travel. Which is problematic for me as I have a trip planned to Sweden in mid-June that I'd hate to miss. As of now the restrictions are set to expire on May 15th but they'll probably be extended to June 1st on Monday. Hoping that after that they start to ease restrictions a bit...

I hear Minsk is lovely this time of year.

https://www.kayak.com/travel-restrictions/

Thank you!

So I could travel to the UK in two weeks if I wanted? Surprising, honestly.

But you'll be quarantined for an undetermined period, per Boris.

Don't make reservations for the Lake District or the Cotswolds just yet.

But the French and UK governments have mutually agreed that their respective quarantines for arriving travellers will not apply to travel between the two countries, so game on for my usual visit to the French Atlantic coast.

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Vive la Frangleterre!

Good luck getting there. Flights into London Heathrow are severely reduced and I think Gatwick has no flights at all.

What could you do in London now anyway except and marvel at the nothingness?

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Yes, I think even Belarus has a quarantine for incoming travelers. Kind of surprising given their government response. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-...nment_response,

Ah ouais ? Cool. Where are you going? Biarritz? Arcachon? La Rochelle? Brittany?
Beware of Normandy. They have some cute pretty towns, but weather is often unstable over there, even in July or August.

It's true that the Mediterranean coast is overcrowded and full of dorks and slobs in the summer. Especially the Riviera that draws too many people like it may be annoying.
Just don't forget there are decent sea resorts around the Montpellier area, like Cap d'Adge Cap d'Agde or La Grande-Motte. It is generally less overcrowded than the Riviera. You may actually have a good time over there too.

But yeah, the Atlantic coast is sportier and more youthful anyway. It's a different atmosphere and I see why you'd like it better.

The French will stick to France this summer. That might kind of make up for the lack of foreign tourists, although the season is likely to be painful to the tourism sector anyhow.
No wonder...

Edit: I'm sorry, I misspelled Cap d'Agde out of a typo, 'cause the spelling is a bit odd.
I went there once. It is known as a naturist resort, but not everyone is naked.
And I didn't see any freaking orgy over there back then. Lol. I can assure you.
Often, people are scared of naturism and don't understand it.
Never mind.

^ I go to Cap Ferret, the peninsula across from Arcachon.

I’ve been cycling a lot. It’s never been better with so little traffic.

Oh, I don't plan on going to the UK, but I am surprised I am legally able to.

Was supposed to be in Barcelona right now and Scottsdale golfing and partying at the end of the month. Woke up instead to half an inch of snow on the ground in the middle of freakin May.

My strength is waining.

Yeah, I was supposed to go to Santiago de Compostela for a conference, followed by a a month on the Greenland ice sheet to deploy an experiment. There's a very small chance we'll be able to go to Greenland in August, but hope is fleeting by the day.

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