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BuildThemTaller Dec 5, 2020 5:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicagolover88 (Post 9125773)
Wow this is going up fast. They must not want this pandemic to mess anything up

These comments are always funny to me after there are pages of comments like "wow, they are taking their sweet time with the foundation. Is this still under construction?" It's like building a foundation that rests on top of active train tracks is complicated while pouring concrete into moveable forms is pretty quick.

rlw777 Dec 6, 2020 1:11 AM

Wow the glass is extra reflective. Are they using glass or chrome for the facade on this one?

harryc Dec 6, 2020 9:56 PM

Dec 3

From Morgan and Lake



gebs Dec 8, 2020 4:56 PM

As this creeps skyward, I keep seeing it in places where I realize just how visible this tower will be. Case in point:

https://i.imgur.com/yZgWFM8h.jpg

Extrapolate how much is left to go and it will definitely leave a mark in this part of the southwest Loop.

sentinel Dec 8, 2020 6:14 PM

Good point - the core is currently at the 25th floor so imagine it at double that to understand the full height and impact of the building.

Skyguy_7 Dec 8, 2020 6:31 PM

I took these photos on Thursday. The glass is fantastic in person.
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killaviews Dec 8, 2020 9:44 PM

On the webcam, the glass on the east side of the floor above the lobby is complete and they are on the floor above now. Anyone know why they aren’t using fire resistant foam/coating on the floors above the lobby?

sentinel Dec 8, 2020 9:58 PM

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Originally Posted by killaviews (Post 9128392)
On the webcam, the glass on the east side of the floor above the lobby is complete and they are on the floor above now. Anyone know why they aren’t using fire resistant foam/coating on the floors above the lobby?

I suspect it's probably just a matter of time, they will eventually.

-Nick- Dec 16, 2020 10:57 PM

Some pictures I took this afternoon around 2 PM.

I wish they had two webcams facing eastward one looking at the structure as it rises and another to view the bottom of the tower as they constructing the parking garage levels.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a80df0b1_h.jpg

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Zapatan Dec 16, 2020 11:17 PM

I thought this one was going to be boring but it's looking great so far

Bonsai Tree Dec 17, 2020 12:07 AM

^^Yeah totally. I think this one blows 110 out of the water. The details are great.

jc5680 Dec 19, 2020 7:44 PM








Chicagolover88 Dec 19, 2020 9:37 PM

Are those grey things on the windows in the first and second picture mechanical floors or something

Hudson11 Dec 19, 2020 10:15 PM

this might have the nicest facade of the myriad of Goettsch Towers in Chicago

Toasty Joe Dec 20, 2020 3:24 AM

In 10 -20 years I think we can look back on this period of blue glass towers and recognize this for the gem it is in terms of facade and location

Skyy Dec 20, 2020 5:11 AM

From earlier this week:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ebbc1bb4_h.jpg[/url]

the urban politician Dec 20, 2020 3:52 PM

I’m definitely digging the cladding so far

southoftheloop Dec 20, 2020 4:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jc5680 (Post 9138249)





Wow

nomarandlee Dec 20, 2020 8:45 PM

Yep. This glass is first rate.

I've gone from pretty underwhelmed about this tower to now very excited to see the final result.

ChiPlanner Dec 21, 2020 2:31 PM

I was over on around Clybourn/Webster and Elston/Cortland the other day (Lincoln Yards/CH Robinson Area) and this elevator core already has a huge presence from the area. From that angle, the only thing that appears "past" the Sears are presidential towers and this.

killaviews Dec 22, 2020 9:34 AM

12/18 BMO Tower
From left to right: BofA Tower, BMO Tower (peeking up), and Salesforce Tower
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...9b73f9f4_b.jpg

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Zapatan Dec 22, 2020 4:34 PM

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From left to right: BofA Tower, BMO Tower (peeking up), and Salesforce Tower
Nice photo of the blue box capital of the world (AKA Chicago) ;)

Skyy Dec 22, 2020 5:29 PM

Some photos from yesterday:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...384fe2e7_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...4d2e1b03_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3e16698e_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...51f67252_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...9ac88f6f_b.jpg

From several days ago:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0bba1e03_b.jpg

SteelMonkey Dec 22, 2020 6:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hudson11 (Post 9138354)
this might have the nicest facade of the myriad of Goettsch Towers in Chicago

Agree.

Nice pics JC, Killa, & Skyy

RedCorsair87 Dec 22, 2020 7:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Zapatan (Post 9140178)
Nice photo of the blue box capital of the world (AKA Chicago) ;)

We really built a lot of this "style" this cycle. In One Chicago, 300N Michigan, The Paragon, River Point, 150 Riverside, and WPE. Am I missing anything? Some are certainly better than others.

Is there any other US city seeing this large of a percentage of new buildings with blue glass recently constructed?

Skyy Dec 22, 2020 8:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RedCorsair87 (Post 9140376)
We really built a lot of this "style" this cycle. In One Chicago, 300N Michigan, The Paragon, River Point, 150 Riverside, and WPE. Am I missing anything? Some are certainly better than others.

Is there any other US city seeing this large of a percentage of new buildings with blue glass recently constructed?

Can't forget 110 N Wacker :D

-Nick- Dec 22, 2020 11:03 PM

From their webcam this evening. Looks like the developers are a little superstitious - Skipping floor 13.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a44b7ba9_h.jpg

Toasty Joe Dec 22, 2020 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RedCorsair87 (Post 9140376)
We really built a lot of this "style" this cycle. In One Chicago, 300N Michigan, The Paragon, River Point, 150 Riverside, and WPE. Am I missing anything? Some are certainly better than others.

Is there any other US city seeing this large of a percentage of new buildings with blue glass recently constructed?

Hudson Yards, which will likely have future phases of blue glass towers but at least most of them go a bit bolder with height and the roof & facade designs. I'd gladly trade one of those supertalls for 300N Michigan.

and yeah as Sky mentioned 110 N Wacker...
built or U/C: WPW, Salesforce, arguably Vista, Old Town Park(kinda), One Eleven, Legacy, 300 N LaSalle, Imprint, half of streeterville?
proposed: 301 & 321 S Wacker, 330 N Clark (behind Reid Murdoch), Parcel O, conceptual renderings for tallest 3 towers of North Union, and likely prevalent in the 78 and Lincoln Yards.
I'm sure there are others.

Several people in the past have commented economic and environmental factors as to why these are all sprouting up, but it doesn't change the fact that they're overdone and, barring a few exceptions, detract from our status as an architecture capital. For the next 70+ years the confluence of our river is going to be mostly surrounded by blue towers... a prime location to showcase our architectural best for the world to see, and we popped up 5-6 blue boxes... not very inspiring

sentinel Dec 23, 2020 1:12 AM

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Originally Posted by -Nick- (Post 9140543)
From their webcam this evening. Looks like the developers are a little superstitious - Skipping floor 13.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a44b7ba9_h.jpg

That's actually relatively common in highrises.

chicubs111 Dec 23, 2020 2:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Toasty Joe (Post 9140569)
Hudson Yards, which will likely have future phases of blue glass towers but at least most of them go a bit bolder with height and the roof & facade designs. I'd gladly trade one of those supertalls for 300N Michigan.

and yeah as Sky mentioned 110 N Wacker...
built or U/C: WPW, Salesforce, arguably Vista, Old Town Park(kinda), One Eleven, Legacy, 300 N LaSalle, Imprint, half of streeterville?
proposed: 301 & 321 S Wacker, 330 N Clark (behind Reid Murdoch), Parcel O, conceptual renderings for tallest 3 towers of North Union, and likely prevalent in the 78 and Lincoln Yards.
I'm sure there are others.

Several people in the past have commented economic and environmental factors as to why these are all sprouting up, but it doesn't change the fact that they're overdone and, barring a few exceptions, detract from our status as an architecture capital. For the next 70+ years the confluence of our river is going to be mostly surrounded by blue towers... a prime location to showcase our architectural best for the world to see, and we popped up 5-6 blue boxes... not very inspiring

So very true...Chicago has lost its innovation and drive for variety in design which made it so unique in its heyday.. I mean even changing the color of glass to anything outside of a shade of blue seems a struggle to achieve on any sizeable project these days..

ardecila Dec 23, 2020 5:07 AM

Come off of it. You think the 1970s were any better, with bronze-colored Mies towers and knockoffs going up everywhere? Or the 1920s with white terracotta (Burnham and knockoffs). These things move in cycles, especially for office towers.

Also don’t forget that a big portion of downtown office growth is now being provided in Fulton Market and River North midrises, and these are siphoning off a lot of the tenants who might want more interesting or quirky spaces. You can probably fold Class A adaptive reuse like March Mart and OPO into this category as well. Overwhelmingly the “blue glass boxes” are built for law and finance firms that want a sleek polished look.

gandalf612 Dec 23, 2020 6:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ardecila (Post 9140761)
Come off of it. You think the 1970s were any better, with bronze-colored Mies towers and knockoffs going up everywhere? Or the 1920s with white terracotta (Burnham and knockoffs). These things move in cycles, especially for office towers.

Also don’t forget that a big portion of downtown office growth is now being provided in Fulton Market and River North midrises, and these are siphoning off a lot of the tenants who might want more interesting or quirky spaces. You can probably fold Class A adaptive reuse like March Mart and OPO into this category as well. Overwhelmingly the “blue glass boxes” are built for law and finance firms that want a sleek polished look.

And I'll take blue glass with very different designs (are we really calling a parabolic and cantilevered building the same) over a sea of beige any day

Toasty Joe Dec 24, 2020 5:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ardecila (Post 9140761)
Come off of it. You think the 1970s were any better, with bronze-colored Mies towers and knockoffs going up everywhere? Or the 1920s with white terracotta (Burnham and knockoffs). These things move in cycles, especially for office towers.

Also don’t forget that a big portion of downtown office growth is now being provided in Fulton Market and River North midrises, and these are siphoning off a lot of the tenants who might want more interesting or quirky spaces. You can probably fold Class A adaptive reuse like March Mart and OPO into this category as well. Overwhelmingly the “blue glass boxes” are built for law and finance firms that want a sleek polished look.

The same 1970s that brought us 2 (basically 3) of our most iconic supertalls and put us on the world map, again? Mies was also putting Chicago on the map attempting to perfect a somewhat novel style of architecture. Unfortunately, seems developers realized they could capitalize on the en vogue minimalist stylings to skimp on design quality and maximize their ROI - hence the many knockoffs and deluge of soulless towers since.

Not sure we can even compare 1920's terracotta to these. Facade ornamentation on those seem beautifully designed for people up close, and the styles were unique enough to differentiate fairly far away. Not to mention the terracotta helped buildings become fire resistant, which was important...

I don't see why you're keen on defending this track record... just because it's the way it is doesn't mean it should be like this. And my primary frustrations are around the confluence, for obvious reasons. Sprinkled throughout the city, these can be great (see One Chicago, BMO) and add to the textured cityscape we all love. But clustered and all around the same height... bleh. Grateful for all of the development we've had, but I'd gladly have it slow down a little bit if it meant increasing the quality and/or height of proposals in these iconic spots - Wolf Point, 300 N Michigan, 300 S Wacker twins, 110 N Wacker, 130 N Franklin come to mind.

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Originally Posted by gandalf612 (Post 9140792)
And I'll take blue glass with very different designs (are we really calling a parabolic and cantilevered building the same) over a sea of beige any day

I believe the parabolic shape of River Point, at least the bottom, is actually because it similarly cantilevers over a small footprint with active train tracks like 150 N Riverside. The arched top (deodorant cap) looks different from the surrounding boxes but cmon... standards a little higher here please. Different time but if Donald Trump can maximize a prime river plot and put up an iconic supertall, I don't think the bar should be too high for others (primarily Wolf Point)

gandalf612 Dec 25, 2020 3:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Toasty Joe (Post 9142034)
I believe the parabolic shape of River Point, at least the bottom, is actually because it similarly cantilevers over a small footprint with active train tracks like 150 N Riverside. The arched top (deodorant cap) looks different from the surrounding boxes but cmon... standards a little higher here please. Different time but if Donald Trump can maximize a prime river plot and put up an iconic supertall, I don't think the bar should be too high for others (primarily Wolf Point)

The reason being the same doesn't change the fact that it looks completely different. And the towers have variation in the hues of the glass as well as their shapes. The only two that are too similar for my liking are Wolf Point East and Salesforce

jc5680 Dec 28, 2020 11:33 PM


ardecila Dec 29, 2020 4:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Toasty Joe (Post 9142034)
The same 1970s that brought us 2 (basically 3) of our most iconic supertalls and put us on the world map, again?

Well, Sears was a vanity project for the world's largest retailer building the world's tallest building, not a developer-driven project. Cost-effectiveness didn't matter. JHC was a mixed-use tower, so it also demanded a unique design solution. Even Standard Oil/Aon was a vanity project for an obscenely wealthy corporation, hence the decadent marble cladding that was foolishly slathered on it. Chase was not a supertall, but it was similar to JHC since it was not a straight-up office tower, the First National Bank demanded a huge open banking hall for the public at the base of their tower so it also required a unique design solution.

Once you get past those four buildings, you're left with... a bunch of International Style boxes, some designed by Mies and some not. IBM Center, Equitable, all of Illinois Center, Riverside Plaza towers, CNA, Inland Steel, Mid-Continental, Kemper, etc

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And my primary frustrations are around the confluence, for obvious reasons. Sprinkled throughout the city, these can be great (see One Chicago, BMO) and add to the textured cityscape we all love. But clustered and all around the same height... bleh.
Nuveen is still part of the ensemble at the confluence and it is very much not a blue glass box. Wolf Point East is blue glass, but it reads very different because of the chunky white mullions. And of course the Merchandise Mart is a colossal pile of beige limestone that more than offsets all the glass.

SamInTheLoop Dec 29, 2020 4:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ardecila (Post 9144471)
Well, Sears was a vanity project for the world's largest retailer building the world's tallest building, not a developer-driven project. Cost-effectiveness didn't matter. JHC was a mixed-use tower, so it also demanded a unique design solution. Even Standard Oil/Aon was a vanity project for an obscenely wealthy corporation, hence the decadent marble cladding that was foolishly slathered on it.


Absolutely, and what's more, the same is probably true for most of the world's supertall towers in most cities. That's not to say that a decent number of recent examples were not developer-driven (as opposed to very corporate-determined) - but that even most of those didn't come down to straight economics/efficiency etc. Vanity, ego, national statements of status, pride, whatever clearly have a lot to do with the actual height and form of so many of these towers above and beyond what simple economics would have produced.

galleyfox Dec 29, 2020 9:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SamInTheLoop (Post 9144476)
Absolutely, and what's more, the same is probably true for most of the world's supertall towers in most cities. That's not to say that a decent number of recent examples were not developer-driven (as opposed to very corporate-determined) - but that even most of those didn't come down to straight economics/efficiency etc. Vanity, ego, national statements of status, pride, whatever clearly have a lot to do with the actual height and form of so many of these towers above and beyond what simple economics would have produced.

For Chicago, if people are looking for architectural peacocking and world renowned icons, they’re going to be disappointed on the whole. The Monadnock Building is exemplary Chicago whereas New York has the Chrysler Building.

What Chicago gets instead is buildings that are representative of their time period. When there’s a substantive change in technology or society’s habits, economy or ideology, Chicago architecture is better able to highlight that shift than other cities that are focused more on eye-catching style.

For instance, a dominant (perhaps primary) theme of the current architectural era is demarcating public-private space. It’s the whole point of Hudson Yards, but they whiffed because of that project’s preoccupation with ‘iconic shapes’ and public art.

Personally I don’t think sticking with basic designs is a bad thing at all since the constant pursuit of novelty for its own sake and instagrams-for-foreign-investors can make cities and people lose the plot and lose sight of other goals for their architecture.

I think even the most basic Chicago blue boxes have grappled more honestly with the question of space and public interaction. Visibility vs privacy. Plaza vs Terrace vs Roof Deck. Signage. How to include balconies while avoiding the pockmarked condo look.

Even Chicago’s most iconic and unusual buildings have very straightforward design philosophies behind them.

Tribune Tower: The press and corporation as church and civic power

Marina City: Car is King, Freedom from the straight line and right angle because of concrete

Hancock Tower: Skyscraper as mixed use residential and commercial, tube structure and exterior bracing for open floor plans

Vista (St. Regis): Undulating glass, how to make a sleek sculptural condo building with exterior spaces

chicubs111 Dec 29, 2020 9:59 PM

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Originally Posted by galleyfox (Post 9144767)
For Chicago, if people are looking for architectural peacocking and world renowned icons, they’re going to be disappointed on the whole. The Monadnock Building is exemplary Chicago whereas New York has the Chrysler Building.

What Chicago gets instead is buildings that are representative of their time period. When there’s a substantive change in technology or society’s habits, economy or ideology, Chicago architecture is better able to highlight that shift than other cities that are focused more on eye-catching style.

For instance, a dominant (perhaps primary) theme of the current architectural era is demarcating public-private space. It’s the whole point of Hudson Yards, but they whiffed because of that project’s preoccupation with ‘iconic shapes’ and public art.

Personally I don’t think sticking with basic designs is a bad thing at all since the constant pursuit of novelty for its own sake and instagrams-for-foreign-investors can make cities and people lose the plot and lose sight of other goals for their architecture.

I think even the most basic Chicago blue boxes have grappled more honestly with the question of space and public interaction. Visibility vs privacy. Plaza vs Terrace vs Roof Deck. Signage. How to include balconies while avoiding the pockmarked condo look.

Even Chicago’s most iconic and unusual buildings have very straightforward design philosophies behind them.

Tribune Tower: The press and corporation as church and civic power

Marina City: Car is King, Freedom from the straight line and right angle because of concrete

Hancock Tower: Skyscraper as mixed use residential and commercial, tube structure and exterior bracing for open floor plans

Vista (St. Regis): Undulating glass, how to make a sleek sculptural condo building with exterior spaces

So i guess your saying NYC is really the capital of modern architecture and Chicago is just a nice collections of buildings but nowhere near as daring with its designs?

galleyfox Dec 30, 2020 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by chicubs111 (Post 9144789)
So i guess your saying NYC is really the capital of modern architecture and Chicago is just a nice collections of buildings but nowhere near as daring with its designs?

If modern architecture means oddly shaped buildings with unusual aesthetics, then yes, NYC IS the American capital of modern architecture.

If modern architecture means using new materials and technology to attempt cheaper, more efficient construction with an interest in social engineering, then it’s Chicago.

That’s the point.

If a region gets too stuck on aesthetics and novelty, it misses the boat on the deeper underlying societal trends. At almost every point of the past decade, NYC has the most flashy or iconic example of particular building design styles, but it’s very slow to respond to changing lifestyle preferences.


The Hancock Building didn’t start out with a developer saying, “I want a black trapezoidal building with giant X’s! It’ll be iconic!”

At first the developer wanted separate regular office and residential towers, but there wasn’t enough space on the lot. So the architects decided on a tapered tower with offices that needed large floor plans on the bottom, and condos that needed more light on the top. Exterior trusses made for flexible floor plans and cheaper construction.

860-880 Lake Shore Apartments sparks the use of steel and glass for residential towers. Viable because of WWII concrete and steel production surplus.

Marina City was the tallest (and I think first) post-war urban residential high rise. That’s what was so sensational about it; it was a conscious attempt to use the fantasy of a high-rise “City within a city” lifestyle to reverse urban flight. But it’s the forerunner of residential skyscrapers with parking podiums.

Perhaps Chicago modernism today is best demonstrated by having built Rush University Medical Center to ensure the city had the ICU capacity to respond to pandemics and not be forced to put patients in hallways and gift shops as seen in other large cities.

Chicagolover88 Jan 4, 2021 5:58 AM

When do you guys think this will top off.

Briguy Jan 4, 2021 11:13 PM

Hmmmm, March 1 for the core?

Zapatan Jan 4, 2021 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicagolover88 (Post 9148430)
When do you guys think this will top off.

I'd guess late Q1 or early Q2 (2021 obviously)

Chicagolover88 Jan 6, 2021 8:22 PM

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJqxnHgF...=1t7q3bx8aalul

You can see BMO peeking out in the far left
This is so exciting!

Ned.B Jan 7, 2021 1:26 PM

Based on the construction cam from yesterday, it appears that the core has now reached the top of the mid rise elevator bank (floor 35), is about to be reduced down to 2 cells for the remaining core, and is now 1 or 2 floors above where the 2nd setback will be.

Toasty Joe Jan 12, 2021 3:25 PM

@cdats on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ7jZnQlBXY/

https://scontent-ort2-1.cdninstagram...31&oe=60282F2C

gebs Jan 12, 2021 4:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Toasty Joe (Post 9157171)

Damn that's gorgeous.

Toasty Joe Jan 12, 2021 4:58 PM

What's crazier is that if NEMA II and 1000M are ever built (and eventually the 78 & more south loop infill), this section of our skyline would rival Los Angeles and Seattle, without hosting arguably any of our top 10 most iconic buildings

SIGSEGV Jan 12, 2021 5:42 PM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0

(also, this stretch of bike path is in dire condition...)

Toasty Joe Jan 13, 2021 3:22 AM

https://scontent-ort2-1.cdninstagram...ec&oe=60299138

@gianlorenzo_photography on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ9_4YwF18E/


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