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Speaking of the Fremont, here's a snippet from an aerial -- one always wonders "how in the name of all that's holy could anyone have torn down the grandeur and wonder of the Rose Mansion?" http://waterandpower.org/Early_LA_Bu...nsion_1890.jpg Especially given as it had what was arguably the unparalleled view from the Hill toward town -- until the damn Fremont plopped right down in front of it. Imagine all those characters in their rooms (the cheap ones, at the back yet) peering into your mansion. I'd tear it down too, dammitall! https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5154/...aa1ac19b_o.jpg (rare shot of the date palm in the back patio... http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3286/...6b66c8c9_o.gif ) Said snippet from this aerial on USC. Don't know if it's been up here on Noirish yet. https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5485/...f9956aa6_h.jpg USC is calling it ca. 1925 which seems about right. Doesn't look like they've broken ground for the Subway Terminal Bldg (May of '24) yet, but the Mutual is up, which was '23. There's a lot to like in this one. |
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And so people can see my image along with the one you posted, e_r... http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/u...EmilyParty.jpg *Screencap from the Scarecrow and Mrs. King episode "The Three Faces of Emily" originally aired on CBS on Dec. 31, 1984 (courtesy of Warner Brothers and Shoot the Moon Productions). |
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Really need to guesstimate the date of your image, I think it falls very near the date LAPB moved operations. Charlie Frost organized the Los Angeles Pressed Brick and Terra Cotta Company in 1887. The company office was located at 204 South Spring Street until 1896, when it was moved to 119 South Broadway. In 1900, the office was moved to the Frost Building at 145 Broadway. The entire sixth floor of the Frost Building was where the company had its products showroom. The original brickyard was located on three acres of land at Cleveland and College (very near the French Hospital). They used clay taken from this location (and supplemented it with clay brought in from Riverside County) until they closed this yard in 1916 and moved into a new, expanded (13 acres!) operation on Date Street right where it makes that 90 degree turn to run up to Alhambra Street. Interestingly, at least to me, you can find the second yard by starting at the first yard at College and Cleveland and simply running your finger down the map (Baist 1921), following College to where it turns into Date Street. The Los Angeles Pressed Brick yard is south of Date Street. Apropos of nothing in particular, I have a few LAPB bricks that I rescued from Mignonette (at Fremont) as they were on death watch due to the coming condominium construction. I'll try to take some snaps of them and post them. Also got a couple of granite bricks from Bruno I'll try to include them. |
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In 1923, Georges Claude and his French company Claude Neon introduced neon gas signs to the United States by selling two to a Packard car dealership in Los Angeles. Earle C. Anthony purchased the two signs reading "Packard" for $1,250 apiece.[1] Neon lighting quickly became a popular fixture in outdoor advertising. Visible even in daylight, people would stop and stare at the first neon signs for hours, dubbed "liquid fire." |
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W: Please see if you can dust off the publications discussing the first neon and any Earle C. Anthony -affiliated Packard dealership located at La Brea and Wilshire in the '20s or '30s. I think the point of the post http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=22397 was that much of what is assumed to be bedrock-entombed fact is unsubstantiated rumor. Rumor that sounds true, begets more rumor and, as someone else suggested, is similar to the benign game of telephone. There is no doubt Earle Anthony was a 20th century pioneer. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=22408 He was “the” LA Packard dealer who, it seems safe to say, acquired neon signs for his LA and San Francisco dealerships in the mid-20's. The cited LA Times article explains that there is scant photographic or other contemporaneous evidence establishing exactly where and when the first sign or signs were placed. (Watch this video by the two researchers of this subject> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zE03azLgks ) There may have been other LA neons that preceded Anthony’s neon/s, but it is just that no one seemed to memorialize this fact when it occurred or the evidence is hidden in the LA Times underground car park. :shrug: As I understand it, part of the reason for the Anthony neon debate is a ‘50s commemorative event where casual assertions were made - but without any challenge to historic accuracy. The post suggests, despite popular belief, neon signs (including “Packard” signs) were “evidently” available for commercial use in other parts of the US - at least ten years earlier according to Jan 1914 publication “Signs of the Times.” (One assumes the publication date to be accurate, but one never knows . . . ) ("Evidently," since the ad does not make clear it was offering neon versus traditional incandescent lighting. ;) ) Setting aside the notion of who installed, or was responsible for, LA’s first neon sign and the date of any installation, there is the location of any such signage. Per the LA Times article, if it was a Packard sign or a sign for a Packard dealership, the most likely place would have been downtown LA. Other than unsupported assertions, there does not seem to be any evidence of a Packard dealership at or even near the intersection of Wilshire and La Brea in the relevant ‘20s or ‘30s and it is anyone’s guess how this assumption started. La Brea once had a large conglomeration of auto sales lots and repair shops, some of which undoubtedly included Packard ( http://www.packardinfo.com/xoops/html/modules/dealer/ ) but that does not establish the existence of an Anthony Packard dealership there or the first neon, except for maybe the first neon on La Brea). Big wattage signs were evident at the La Brea-Wilshire location, e.g., Fox Ritz, but it is not certain that these signs started as neon or naturally transitioned to the electrified gas. We tend to overlook the fact that there were big bright incandescent signs well before neon’s proliferation (see below). Parenthetically, I distinctly recall a discussion in this thread concerning the illumination of an 1876 pistol or shooting gallery sign that probably started out as being gas or candle powered. What happened to that old palm tree in front of the train station? http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=14577 Interesting and colorful discussion of NY neons> http://nyneon.blogspot.com/2012_09_01_archive.html Quote:
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If these dates are to be believed, e.g., 1915 - this would predate the generally accepted idea of neon's first (widespread) use in LA by several years. 1915 http://31.media.tumblr.com/4db8d30a9...atdo1_1280.jpghttp://31.media.tumblr.com/4db8d30a9...atdo1_1280.jpg http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=18052 1915 - Tally's on Broadway http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/ref/co...coll2/id/14896 Sunglasses on? Quote:
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Two wonderful designs. 1936 Hat and Ford Coupe - http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 Did E.C. Anthony dine in here, or did he prefer Packard takeout? http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/3924/rec/21 *Although I did not find image there, Martin deserves some extra credit for his excellent site! http://www.martinturnbull.com/photo-blog/page/26/ |
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Facetious . . . for fear of being accused of trying to light an extinguished neon with an old palm frond. :cool: http://ih2.redbubble.net/image.89392...x550,075,f.jpghttp://ih2.redbubble.net/image.89392...x550,075,f.jpg 1921 - Third and Broadway http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...d/18275/rec/10 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 Too late to return the genie? http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 No neon was hurt in the making of this photo http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 Same bat time 1921, same bat address Third and Broadway http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...d/18276/rec/11 |
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During the run of the series, when episode #52 was being edited it came up three minutes short. Since the plot involved the nightclub, Desi asked Pepito to do three minutes of material to be added to the episode. For a few decades, the original pilot of I Love Lucy was thought to have been lost. Desi had given Pepito a copy of the pilot which, it is said, he had put under his bed and forgot about. Of course, it has since been discovered and aired once as a special in the 90’s on CBS and is on the I Love Lucy dvd set. |
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http://www.trbimg.com/img-52c1221c/t...ng-g-2/600.jpgLAT The cities of Los Angeles and Santa Monica in the last decade have approved more than a dozen construction projects [orange circles on the map] on or near two well-known faults without requiring seismic studies to determine if the buildings could be destroyed in an earthquake, according to a Times analysis. Los Angeles building records show that when officials approved projects, they used outdated information that placed the Santa Monica and Hollywood faults much farther away from the developments. The structures include a 49-unit apartment complex on the Westside and a three-story office building near the Mormon Temple, whose landmark hill was formed by the Santa Monica fault. http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-e...htmlstory.html |
A recent birthday prompted me to look for a photo of the Alhambra Community Hospital where I was born in 1953. It was at the corner of Garfield Ave. and Bay State Street in Alhambra. I figured if anyone could find a picture it would be the regulars on this forum. Anybody have any leads?
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The hospital is still there but the old building has been replaced by a new building. |
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I love the irony of him wanting his bastards going to "nice" families found through the church of which his own family was a member. And what exactly was your mother thinking? Creepy, but very noir. |
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"Elite" Joan Bennett & her real-life, career-killing noir: http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics17/00028171.jpg from 2011 post http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2426 Also http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=5352 |
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The details of Joan's life are interesting and of course very LA Noir GW. My stepfather was a successful attorney in Los Angeles [he also owned apartments, several factories, a jewelry store and so on]. My mother loved him and put up with just about anything he did. She liked being on the inside of his many intrigues and she always cooperated. A lot goes on in marriages that is kept very quiet. My sister and I only found out these things many decades after the fact. As a child at the time, I only knew that he was seriously searching for ''parents'' for these babies. I never guessed that he was the father. What does a child know of these matters. I tried to stay out of his sight because he knew my real father and he intensely disliked him. As I have said here before there was an arrest warrant active for my bio father for aggravated assault, etc. He fled the state and never returned to CA. Two of these babies, a brother and sister, went to his long time friends who lived just around the corner from us [they were unable to conceive]. The other two babies, sisters, went to people in our church who were desperate for a child. I recall seeing the adopting mother when she got her new baby...she had tears of joy. She named the baby Gleam. My stepfather's previous wife of 20 years committed suicide in the garage of this Los Angeles house [photo below]. He bought this house in 1935 for around $5,500 new [? if I recall correctly]...its still standing. I have her suicide note that I found after his passing. I found it in a file of his personal papers and letters. She had taken the gun from a neighbor's home the day before...if you can believe that. At least that's the story, which I find a bit far fetched. I don't think that there was any investigation. She was just found dead in the loft of the garage when he came home from work. Noir? I'd have to agree with that GW. That was life in the 1950s...there were many twists and turns, plus a lot of drama now and then. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psd909109b.jpg personal collection |
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From Fabulous Boulevard by Ralph Hancock (New York: Funk & Wagnalls, 1949): http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...3.jpg~original http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...7.jpg~original HathiTrust -- http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?i...ew=1up;seq=203 Actually, the house was next to the SE corner of the junior high campus, Wolfskill never really moved into the new house, and his widow died over two years later on January 4, 1916, but whatever. John Wolfskill died December 14, 1913: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...8.jpg~original http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...b.jpg~original Los Angeles Times, December 15, 1913 Well, the new house wasn't exactly in Beverly Hills, but whatever. From Arthur Letts by William H. B. Kilner (Los Angeles, Young & McCallister, 1927): http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...2.jpg~original http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...c.jpg~original HathiTrust -- http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?i...ew=1up;seq=265 |
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Very James Ellroyish. Your "successful" stepfather sounds like a really attractive, trustworthy guy, your mother like a total doormat. (That she actually liked being a party to his many intrigues and that she always cooperated is noirishly & gun-mollishly strange; in modern terms she'd be seen more as self-loathing than in love. Yes, very '50s, I guess.) In the end, what interests me most about the story is the location of the suicide house (Who could blame the ex?...and are you suggesting that your stepfather may have murdered her??. Retaining the suicide note of someone who is basically a stranger is certainly an eldritch note, if not downright creepy.) Overall...TMI? So where's the house? |
Might be the damnedest story ever to make it into the thread.
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