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ethereal_reality Aug 22, 2019 8:27 PM

:previous: You solved the mystery, Odinthor! :worship:

ethereal_reality Aug 22, 2019 11:29 PM

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/fzom6T.jpg
Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 8664222)
Sent this to a friend who has worked at the Griffith Observatory for a long time. Thought he might know but he said while it was familiar, he'd have to pass it along to someone 'up the line'. He finally got back to me...

"Hey Michael,

So, I spoke with A****** C*** today, and he said that antenna device was a satellite receiver, from a weather satellite that broad-casted live news from several news sources. He said it was placed on the lawn, around 1970 or so, and there was a receiver in the Hall of the Eye, where it would print out weather updates. Later on, the antenna was replaced with a satellite dish, and they were receiving news from CBS and NASA.

He mentioned that it was dissembled and removed in the late 70s. So, it was a fairly brief exhibit. He did mention that it was a donation from one of the sons of Griffith so, that's pretty interesting.

Hope that helps.

R."

That sure does help, Michael. Now we have the definitive answer. :)

(thanks for asking your friend over at the observatory)

ethereal_reality Aug 23, 2019 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Boy in driver's seat at 2170 W. 25th Street, Los Angeles Calif.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/pNwyZf.jpg

Does anyone know what family used to live at 2170 W. 25th Street in the 1910s?

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Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8664195)
e_r:

https://i.postimg.cc/dVzjHhQs/2170w25th-1911.jpg
1911 LA city directory

My goodness: "time indictators"!

:previous: The Riddell family! Thanks again, Odinthor.

This is probably a daft question: Doesn't "time indictators" simply mean watches'?



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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8664223)
2170 W 25th Street was moved to 1857 Redondo Blvd in 1930. As I describe in my history of 2205 W Adams--the house that ate up the block and became the Clark Library--William Andrews Clark Jr. (who built his lover a house nearby, by the way, and gave him a Rolls-Royce) reconfiguered the propety in a big way: https://adamsboulevardlosangeles.blo...ease-also.html

GW, I had forgotten that Williams Andrews Clark Jr.'s lover was a man. (his name was Harrison Post)

To read more about Mr. Post's life go to adamsboulevardhouses. There are several unexpected twists and turns. (for one thing, he ended up in a concentration camp in 1939 Germany)


P.S....The male companion's Roll Royce, that GW mentioned, was painted yellow and black, like a bumble bee. (no shrinking violet, that one ;))
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Martin Pal Aug 23, 2019 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SHERIFFPAUL (Post 8663942)

Does anyone have a picture of M'Goos Restaurant?

https://oldlarestaurants.com/wp-cont...ads/mgoos1.jpg

There were at least three M’Goo’s Restaurants — one in Pasadena serving the Cal Tech crowd, one in Westwood Village serving the U.C.L.A. crowd, one on Hollywood Boulevard...
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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6565415)
[...]
After Bradley's this location was a popular hangout called M'Goo's. (photo dated 1969)
http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/RN-100-1.jpg
H.P./Torrence

M'Goo's and Love's restaurant in 1972:
http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/HB-408.jpg
H.P./Torrence

A fire closed down M'Goo's sometime in the early 70's. Love's was there until the 90's at least, maybe longer. Now I believe it's partly a check cashing place.
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You can see the Hollywood M'Goo's (in pink & purple) in this youtube video link at the 00:59 second mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzUad7f1cfQ

Several movie marquees (Thunderball, Madame X, Born Free, War Lord, Made in Paris, Do Not Disturb) indicate the youtube film dates from the early months of 1966. The video travels from just west of the Chinese Theatre to the Stromberg Jeweler's clock, right before the Warner Theatre (later the Pacific Theatres).

M'Goo's facing east. Owl Drugs on the corner.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/84/f3...8ab4b3225c.jpgMaria Mancini/pinterest
(I linked this photo from pinterest. Don't have a hosting site at the moment, so it'll probably disappear at some point as pinterest photos are
wont to do.)


Below: Love's Restaurant (again!) is on the right, so it dates after 1966. (In the video the location is Owl Drugs.)

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...4a&oe=5DDE84AFVLA/Facebook

A source I read today says M'Goo's closure because of the fire was in 1975.

Godzilla Aug 23, 2019 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8666847)
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This is probably a daft question: Doesn't "time indictators" simply mean watches'?

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More like a speed-o-meters. ;)


https://books.google.com/books?id=ga...page&q&f=false

SHERIFFPAUL Aug 23, 2019 4:12 PM

Thanks Martin for those pictures of M'Goo's

Martin Pal Aug 23, 2019 6:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SHERIFFPAUL (Post 8667296)
Thanks Martin for those pictures of M'Goo's

You are welcome! :tup:

I could not find any of the Pasadena or Westwood locations, though. The menu you posted indicates there are also M'Goo's in London, Rome, Paris, Tel Aviv and...Azusa!

BillinGlendaleCA Aug 24, 2019 1:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8656633)
Here's the 3rd, and final, mystery location for tonight.


Does anyone recognize this (hideous) mall-like building? [slide taken MAY 1983]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/IWZt8d.jpg
eBay

There appears to be a apartments upstairs.




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While we figured out where is...I was in DTLA this afternoon, so I though I'd get a current version of that shot...

https://i.postimg.cc/NGxhq6Kx/20190823-144738-A-bj.jpg by me.

Not much has changed.

ethereal_reality Aug 24, 2019 2:19 AM

:previous: It actually looks much better. Thanks for the pic. Bill. :)

BillinGlendaleCA Aug 24, 2019 2:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8667907)
:previous: It actually looks much better. Thanks for the pic. Bill. :)

It's my mad photo skilz, ER.

(Actually I think the addition of the bougainvillea planters probably is the difference.)

Bristolian Aug 24, 2019 3:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8667909)
It's my mad photo skilz, ER.

(Actually I think the addition of the bougainvillea planters probably is the difference.)

True but someone is going to have to sweep up those annoying little leaves :(

BillinGlendaleCA Aug 24, 2019 7:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 8667936)
True but someone is going to have to sweep up those annoying little leaves :(

This is a high class joint, they have people for that.

ethereal_reality Aug 24, 2019 7:48 AM

The following three photographs just turned up on eBay.

They show a dirt road known as the 'Mount Hollywood Trail' in 1916.

This first one is the most haunting (and my personal favorite) It shows a somewhat deteriorated pergola along the trail somewhere near Franklin St.

#1
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/Ilrn7O.jpg
eBay

I'm dying to know where this pergola was located. (I'm not even sure where the trail was located)



REVERSE #1

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/aeORKw.jpg

:previous: I don't know what the last line means... ...something about lights. :shrug:










The next photograph shows the trail with a sign. (but the sign is impossible to read)

#2
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/FKG02i.jpg
eBay


REVERSE #2

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/l5eiqx.jpg












The last photograph was taken from the top of Mount Hollywood looking towards Glendale and Pasadena.

#3
.............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................As you can see, I made it a bit larger than the other two.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/ptnn8q.jpg
eBay


REVERSE #3

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/6XgRlL.jpg


I tried to find an old map that includes the 'Mount Hollywood Trail' but I haven't had any luck.............................yet.



I'm refraining from getting my whip out.
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odinthor Aug 24, 2019 6:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8668017)

[...]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/aeORKw.jpg

:previous: I don't know what the last line means... ...something about lights. :shrug:

[...]

e_r: "Twinkling" lights?

CityBoyDoug Aug 24, 2019 8:38 PM

ER

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/l5eiqx.jpg

"Trail up to Mt. Hollywood."

Martin Pal Aug 24, 2019 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8668188)
e_r: "Twinkling" lights?


That's what I was thinking, too.

But looking at the photo that brings up a question.

:shrug:

odinthor Aug 25, 2019 3:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8668304)
That's what I was thinking, too.

But looking at the photo that brings up a question.

:shrug:

Some galoot conked da guy on da head, an' he was seein' stars!

MartinTurnbull Aug 25, 2019 7:24 PM

Great great grandma at Ship Cafe, Venice California
 
Somebody recently sent me this photo of her great great grandmother standing outside the Ship Cafe in what she educated-guessed the early 1920s. She wanted confirmation that it was the famous one in Venice. Looking at other photos I have, I was able to match that intricate strip of carved wood. But that circular light fixture above the woman's head proved to be something else again. In none of the photos I have or any I found on a Google image search was I able to see that fixture. My guess is that it's inside the entrance that was later built onto the side of the "ship" it was lost in the fire. But if anyone reading this has a photo of the Ship Cafe which shows that light fixture, I would love to see it.

https://martinturnbull.com/wp-conten...ornia-copy.jpg

BillinGlendaleCA Aug 25, 2019 8:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8668017)
The following three photographs just turned up on eBay.

They show a dirt road known as the 'Mount Hollywood Trail' in 1916.

This first one is the most haunting (and my personal favorite) It shows a somewhat deteriorated pergola along the trail somewhere near Franklin St.


The next photograph shows the trail with a sign. (but the sign is impossible to read)

#2
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/FKG02i.jpg
eBay



The last photograph was taken from the top of Mount Hollywood looking towards Glendale and Pasadena.

#3
.............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................As you can see, I made it a bit larger than the other two.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/ptnn8q.jpg
eBay



I tried to find an old map that includes the 'Mount Hollywood Trail' but I haven't had any luck.............................yet.



I'm refraining from getting my whip out.
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I'm here to help(being that I'm a loyal minion), the US Government is your friend. Here's the USGS topo map from 1928:

https://i.postimg.cc/FzbY1f23/Annota...-25-131757.jpgvia USGS

You can see a road that follows(though a bit more curvy) the current path of Commonwealth as it curves west to Vermont Canyon Road and Vista Del Vale Road as it then heads north though the park. If you took this route to Mt. Hollywood(and I have) you'd exit Vista Del Vale just below Glendale Peak and climb up the hogback(the ridge looks like a hog's back) to Dante's View and then up to the summit.

When I first saw the second picture I thought it might be a picture of Mt. Bell(north of Mt. Hollywood), since I'd taken a picture there almost 100 years to the day latter(I took my pic on Jan. 21, 2016). But there's a small mountain(informally known as "Taco Peak") between Mt. Bell and Mt. Hollywood. So that wasn't it.

(My guess on the first pic is that it's near Commonwealth and Franklin, but that's just a WAG).

The third picture, well at least the foreground, looked like Beacon Hill, but as you can see below the hills don't quite line up correctly. The tall peak in the San Rafael Hills is right below Mt. Wilson when in the 1916 photo it's a bit to the right.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...31128520_b.jpg_3150002-Edit.jpg by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr

More likely is a spot just north of the summit of Mt. Hollywood that has some benches and some young trees(it's now dedicated to a slain LAPD officer). This is the view from about there:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d3563c66_b.jpg_A030063.jpg by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr

The problem with looking at current maps(like Google) is the topography at the lower elevations has changed. The Roosevelt Golf Course wasn't there then and I'm sure there was some "smoothing" of the landscape.

ethereal_reality Aug 25, 2019 8:45 PM

ORGINALLY POSTED BY MartinTurnbill
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/Zg3jxg.jpg


:previous: Oh my, that is wonderful photograph!

Like you, I have never noticed the amazing light fixture, Martin.

I'll re-check my images of the Ship Cafe, pronto.


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