Total population. Highest vaccination rate in the state.

That's actually pretty impressive. Orange County is only at 56%, LA County is at 54%, and SD is downright awful at 44%. Socal forumers, y'all need to slap some sense into your neighbors!

What do you have to give as proof of vaccination? Just the paper CDC card?

I’m really worried about what happens when that thing that all creased and dog-eared or spilled on. It’s not exactly wallet size or durable.

^ Mine is laminated

Can you do that yourself or do you have a different card? Good idea though. Need to find a place that can do that.

Just go to a FedEx store.

I have mine somewhere in my glove box. I've never had to show my papers, yet.

The business owners will accept the card or digital certificate. Louisiana has a digital vaccine certificate that any resident can download for free. It's through the LA Wallet app. The digital certificate also links directly to CommonPass, so it can also be used for travel purposes.

And if you got doses in two different states? I suspect that is going to be quite common in the US.

NY has a phone app called the Excelsior pass. I haven't set it up yet though, since most places are still on the honor system around here. The places I've gone that ask for proof have accepted seeing a picture of the CDC card from my phone and comparing it to my drivers license.

As long as a phone pic of the CDC card remains adequate otherwise I'm not carrying around my physical CDC card. Texas refuses to issue an analogue to the Excelsior Pass or whatever Louisiana's doing.

A trip to Wal-Mart today showed us that about half the shoppers were back to wearing masks. That was a bit frightening, because if Wal-Mart shoppers in South Carolina are unnerved enough to mask up, it's serious.

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.

According to the LA County COVID vaccine dashboard, as of July 25th, 62% of LA County residents who are 16 years and older are fully vaccinated, and 71% have received at least one dose so far.

16 or 12 and older? I thought most counties do the latter?

Maricopa County:

As of 7/27/2021:
https://www.maricopa.gov/5671/Public-Vaccine-Data


Looks like Maricopa County is nearly identical to LA County.
59% of Maricopa County residents 18+ vaxxed
62% of LA County residents 16+ vaxxed

I understand the rationale for only looking at the eligible population, but I believe it gives us a false sense of security, since COVID can infect the unvaccinated of any age. I would also only look at the population that is fully vaccinated too, as we know that only one dose offers much less protection.

Anyway, regardless of which subgroup of the population you look at, it's clear that LA has fallen behind. For 12+ most of the Bay Area counties are at 72-78% fully vaccinated. If LA county is at 62% fully vaccinated for 16+, it's reasonable to assume that for 12+ it's actually lower than 62% since we know that there is a drop off in vaccination rates in the 12-15 age group.

I have only had to show my CDC card when buying game tickets to a Phillies game in Cincinnati. Fully-vaccinated people could get tickets for $10 each, and I chose to do that. I showed a picture on my phone of the card.

Delaware does not have any app where you have a digital version of the CDC card. I don't imagine they will plan on doing that. We are a blue state with Democratic politicians up and down the line, by the way. Our Democratic Governor has apparently said a mask mandate will not be brought back, even with the Delta variant. Our state government and Governor has been pretty pragmatic about mandates and restrictions throughout the pandemic.

You’ve got to be joking. I’ve been as level headed and non-freaked out about Covid as anyone. I agree it’s been hysteria.

But even I think you are being totally obtuse here. A virus that kills millions in just a year and a half is no joke. And you are wrong in saying that “only the weak and frail with 1 year to live died”. My coworker’s brother in law, a healthy 48 year old man in Kuwait, just died of Covid. He had not been vaccinated.

My major criticism today is that in the post vaccine world people are still stirring panic about Covid and that is just blatantly irresponsible. We keep counting Covid cases but it’s like a toothless tiger at this point. So what if cases are rising? Hospitalizations and death rates, ICU bed saturation rates are still very low except in areas where people think like you do and refuse the vaccine.

Covid is basically serving as a proxy for all respiratory viruses. When we have open restaurants, stores, festivals, then viruses circulate, as has happened throughout human history. I think most people don’t get that and are appalled and freaked out about all of this, but guess what? This is NORMAL.

You are incessantly twisting the facts on covid, and therefore deliberately spreading misinformation on an extremely serious pandemic that has struck down millions of people. This should be grounds for a suspension from SSP.

You are certainly no Oskar Schindler. Just a coward who insists on arbitrarily dismissing the restrictions imposed by governments around the world to protect their citizens, instead of just getting the vaccine. Do your part, and stop being so selfish.

Modelers Suggest Pandemic Lockdowns Saved Millions From Dying Of COVID-19

Covid lockdown: Seven enduring claims fact-checked

US could have averted 40% of Covid deaths, says panel

You know, didn't someone let slip a while back that forumer SLO had covid? What ever happened to him?

^don't worry, Fill MyCavity is Philling in for SLO

Or jump in the pool!

Usually 1 shower works though. I'll do 2 if I'm active or working out, wouldn't everybody else do the same? If not, that's weird. I usually take a shower before bed, just incase somebody else might be in the mood (which I have found to be around 8% of the time <---that's a joke, usually it's around 90-100%). <---j/k again.

:D

Beautiful day at the ballpark today. Looks like things are pretty much back to normal here.

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Put that axe-grinder nitwit on your ignore list like I have. He’s got issues.

But still, you need to come to terms with realty about Covid. You’ve been listening to the wrong people. There is a middle ground between the buttholes at CNN who want to make this last forever, and the people who think that Covid is one giant hoax

We're #1 :uhh:
https://wsvn.com/news/local/miami-da...delta-variant/

^ “their 30s, 40s and 50s”… and what’s the breakdown between those very different age groups?

Leading the US doesn’t mean a whole lot when overall numbers are down, and 96% of these people are unvaccinated (by choice). So who cares?

Florida currently has 10,600 hospitalized. Not the most ever, but only around 1,000 below the peak last summer and it's still rising rapidly.

And 96% of them are unvaccinated, according to this article. So I do not care.

From the article:

The vaccine works. Proof is in the pudding. But amazing (and maddening) how so many people are still refusing it.

I care only because the willfully unvaccinated are prolonging this crap.

And I’m pretty sure that the doctors and nurses in regions where there is poor vaccine compliance are getting fed up with this crap as well

10,600 cases.
55 in the ICU
1 in the ICU is fully vaccinated?

1 fully vaxxed patient out of a total 10,600 cases is in the ICU?
That's 0.009%

^ There may be hospitalized people who are NOT in the ICU who’ve been vaccinated as well, but I’m sure, as has borne out elsewhere, the ratio is probably very low

Pedestrian had Covid last week, his worst fear (even worse than clowns and spiders). We haven’t heard from him in a while. Pedestrian are you still alive?

Being that he’s all couped up in his basement, I fear that if he croaked nobody would know for about 5 weeks. Pedestrian! Where are you?

And ultimately there will always be people who are hospitalised or die from this, even if vaccinated, just as they are with flu. It may be that they are very old and frail, or that the vaccine just didn’t produce a strong immune response. That’s life.

People who are particularly vulnerable should probably be encouraged to get antibody tests done a few weeks after their second dose, to confirm that the vaccination “took”.

If hospitals ICU's are full, plenty of responsible people with non-COVID critical issues will be turned away.

I mean, it's the same reason we mandate seat belts. Not wearing one doesn't just impact you. First you could literally hit someone else going through the windshield. But more broadly those who don't wear seat belts drive up insurance costs (both auto and medical) for the rest of us.

You're comparing apples and oranges here. 10,600 is for the whole state, and 55 in the ICU was for for a single hospital chain in the Miami area with 420 total COVID patients.

That’s easy. Prioritise the non-Covid issues over unvaccinated Covid patients.

Vaccines will never be 100% effective; but what they do excel at is rapidly reducing the possibility of getting ill, let alone hospitalised or die.

10023 you mentioned earlier that you don’t care that the people who are falling victim are overwhelmingly those who are unvaccinated, but you should care. Regardless of their ignorance and stupidity to not get vaccinated, more people dying or suffering long-term medical conditions will have an indirect cost on you, me and the rest of society. There was a father in his mid-30’s who died from Covid the other week, leaving behind two young kids who – from a statistical perspective – likely to experience more adverse life prospects.

Did he actually confirm that he tested positive? I thought he was just concerned about exposure after an office visit with his physician and went to get tested.

Then his kids will think twice about not getting a vaccine when the next big virus comes into their lives as adults.

Of course there are some indirect costs, but (as I have stated before), it's the only way you are going to convince these morons to get a vaccine. If they go through a major bout of covid, or start seeing their friends and family falling to this thing, that's a very real impact on them directly that will do way more to communicate the importance of a vaccine than seeing online social media posts.

This is why some of us don't care. I can't feel sympathy for people who spit in the face of science and willfully choose to put themselves at risk. People do this with risk all the time, but you can't fix stupid.

Whether or not you agree with, or even like this man, he basically isn’t wrong here:

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I see.

The wording of the article could be better. It also says that Florida has had 100,000 cases of covid this week.

96% of those that went to the hospital in Miami-Dade are unvaccinated (sounds like the vaccines are working as advertised).

Sounds like we stay the course and all the panic porn is just that, fear generated for you and I to click and share links.

Great. Probably on benefits anyway.

Covid isn’t going away and neither are the deaths from it. Everyone has the opportunity to get vaccinated. That’s all you can reasonably do.

ok this is really gross.

You can make some pretty leveled head points like this:

...but then say some really outlandish shit like this:

Again and again and again: You should care, not for them but because they are breeding the vaccine-resistant virus that may eventually get any of us who are vaccinated because we are not keeping up in developing and testing new vaccines as fast as the virus is creating new "variants" (although we probably could if the bureaucrats would get out of the way).

Over the weekend it was said on one of the TV news shows that there were 7 ICU beds left in Austin. Good luck people.

The problem is that this new round of lockdowns and mask mandates will be open ended because we won't have vaccines to look forward to because we're already vaccinated. Sure, there's boosters which might work for another six months until another variant renders them ineffective and then we'll be right back where we started from.

I get the precautions over Delta but I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel.

It would be enlightening if the general public knew who was in the ICU.

# of Covid cases
age of those with Covid
of those, # of vaccinated or un-vaxxed
# with medical ailments

Unfortunately, we won't ever get that information, because we're supposed to remain in FEAR.

It's gonna get you and when it gets you, you're going to DIE!
- the media