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AlvaroLegido Feb 10, 2015 1:09 PM

Alley Shoot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JScott (Post 6908090)
I'm pretty sure those are the San Gabriel Mountains in the background of the old photo. Those would never have been visible from Ferguson Alley, at any stage of its existence. In any case, the shadows are totally wrong for a view going from west to east.

This is a strategic point that I won't overlook from now on. And congratulations to FlyingWedge : it is great to have you back!

ethereal_reality Feb 10, 2015 3:54 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/908/9O7ctC.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3940dxer (Post 6908575)
A Chinese friend advised me that the word is pronounced "yia" and means mortgage, pawn, or pledge.

Thanks for this David.

I thought I'd take a stab in the dark and look up 'pawn' in the 1893 city directory....hoping to find one with a Chinatown address.
Surprisingly, it only lists one pawn shop. "Your Uncle's Pawn Shop' at 103 S. Main Street.


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Ed Workman Feb 10, 2015 4:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 6908512)
looks like this is the end of the line for most of the cars....these were called "Hollywood Cars" and did a bunch of service mainly on

There were two yards in Long Beach, rather close together.
This is not Morgan, I think, and you c an't make me tell you the correct name.
Morgan was beyond and to the right- look hard for the line of poles and wires.
The cars are the last of the Hollywood style. The 6th & Main to Watts lines had recently been terminated by MTA and the cars stored here pending disposition. What I say is Morgan Yard was the site of a small repair barn , so this yard served as a layover point for cars returning to 6th& Main
WE have recently seen pix of combination cars 498 and 499. There were 4 cars thus that reached PE. One sat derelict in the back corner in PE colors until scrapped a coupla years before this pic was made Was it actually 499 or less than 498?
The concrete channel of the LA river is just to the left, and Ocean Avenue was behind the photog. MTA cars had buttons on poles to make the traffic signal work to let them cross the WB lanes

Ed Workman Feb 10, 2015 5:07 PM

[QUOTE=Ed Workman;6909070]There were two yards in Long Beach, rather close together.
This is not Morgan, I think, and you c an't make me tell you the correct name.
Morgan was beyond and to the right- look hard for the line of poles and wires.

Just substitute "FAIRBANKS" for MORGAN in what I said above and return to your homes

ethereal_reality Feb 10, 2015 5:54 PM

:previous: -huh. So it is Morgan then?
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I just came across this amazing color slide on ebay. We've seen this view before on NLA, but not this particular photograph.

That's the peaked roof of the old Hall of Records in the lower right corner, so we're pretty much looking straight down Court Street. The seller didn't include a date.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/u2xZnr.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Koda...item35e4fe6270

Years earlier we would have seen the tracks of Court Flight at center bottom. (below the white fence....where there's litter, and something red & square)

-photo taken from atop City Hall
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tovangar2 Feb 10, 2015 6:25 PM

e-r's brilliant find has sold. I hope to a norisher.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2...04051%2BPM.jpg
ebay

Many thx again to JScott for first identifying the location and to HossC and Flyingwedge for the confirmations. I am in awe.

Martin Pal Feb 10, 2015 6:27 PM

I added this to my post of a few days ago, but in case anyone was interested, here's what I added:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6905691)
Witch's House aka Spadena House
[...]
I also seem to recall a post by someone who had constructed a model of it.

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UPDATE: I found the post of the "model" that whizbang built of this house.
The first link has a color vintage postcard of the house and the second link is a photo of his model.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=20926
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=20925
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ethereal_reality Feb 10, 2015 6:30 PM

The seller doesn't say, but I'm guessing the two 1970 slides below were taken by someone staying in one of the upper floors of the Holiday Inn (now the Loews Hollywood Hotel).


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/5ybCiv.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970s-Los-An...item3aa0a5cb40

above: That's the El Capitan Theater (not the one on Vine Street that we recently discussed) and next to it is the old Masonic Temple.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/k3UpKJ.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Orig...item418f57f15a__

fhammon Feb 10, 2015 7:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6908651)
Speaking of Ferguson Alley coming and going:

I always find something a little heartbreaking about those photos. I understand about progress and utility but they should have stopped right there, did a little clean-up and landscaping etc and we'd still have access to the fwy from Alameda. Instead we got a park for the homeless to lounge in (bless them) and an unobstructed view between La Placita and Union Station. I've said it here before - I grieve for the loss of those buildings especially the Lugo House. They could have left them. They should never have taken them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SierraMadre (Post 5437834)


tovangar2 Feb 10, 2015 8:25 PM

Court and Hill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6909168)
I just came across this amazing color slide on ebay. We've seen this view before on NLA, but not this particular photograph.

That's the peaked roof of the old Hall of Records in the lower right corner, so we're pretty much looking straight down Court Street. The seller didn't include a date.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/u2xZnr.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Koda...item35e4fe6270

Years earlier we would have seen the tracks of Court Flight at center bottom. (below the white fence....where there's litter, and something red & square)

-photo taken from atop City Hall
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Thank you e-r so much, this is one of my favorite locations (and isn't that Burt Lancaster's Criss Cross house on the right?)

An earlier "then":
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5215901)
below: A great view of the Bradbury Mansion. The street in the foreground is the stub of Court Street.
The Court Street funicular would be built soon after this photograph was taken. The site of the upper terminus is at lower left.

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5...rtbradmans.jpg
KENNI at skyscrapercity
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=380

The earliest "then" I could find. The hillside is tumbling on to unpaved Fort St. (Broadway). Poundcake Hill rises on the left:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7...12241%2BPM.jpg
water & power

And now. Not much difference anymore between the elevations of Broadway (foreground) and Hill:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-C...13424%2BAM.jpg
http://shq.lasdnews.net (detail)

-taken from City Hall

tovangar2 Feb 10, 2015 8:34 PM

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Originally Posted by fhammon (Post 6909384)
I grieve for the loss of those buildings especially the Lugo House. They could have left them. They should never have taken them.

I totally agree. That's why so many of us are on NLA, to revisit what's lost.

ethereal_reality Feb 10, 2015 8:43 PM

Aerial dated August 1932.

This extraordinary sepia image might be new to NLA (I found similar ones, but not this one)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/kCLPpX.jpg
eBay

In the upper left corner Union Station is under construction. -and if you look closely, you can see Lugo House (with its three dormer windows)
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AlvaroLegido Feb 10, 2015 8:59 PM

Court Street best view ever !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6909168)
I just came across this amazing color slide on ebay. We've seen this view before on NLA, but not this particular photograph.

That's the peaked roof of the old Hall of Records in the lower right corner, so we're pretty much looking straight down Court Street. The seller didn't include a date.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/u2xZnr.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Koda...item35e4fe6270
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[Tovangar : Thank you e-r so much, this is one of my favorite locations (and isn't that Burt Lancaster's Criss Cross house on the right?)]

It was also one of Raymond Chandler's favorite noirish locations. Here follow 2 excerpts of « The Big Sleep ». Chapter 26 :
CANINO (the bad guy pointing his gun)
Where's Agnes ?
HARRY JONES (good guy)
Okey. She's in an apartment house at 28 Court Street, up on Bunker Hill. Apartment 301. I guess I'm yellow all right.
[…...........]
MARLOWE (to the 28 Court Street apartment manager)
You want me to send the vice squad over there and shake the joint down ? I know all about Bunker Hill apartment houses, mister. Especially the ones that have phone numbers listed for each apartment.
MANAGER
Hey, take it easy officer. I'll cooperate. There's a coupe of blondes here. […..]

BTW : yes Tovangar, that's Burt Lancaster's house on the right.

ethereal_reality Feb 10, 2015 9:39 PM

OK. I just found this on eBay and I have a question:

Did the 'City of Los Angeles' really have it's name spelled out in NEON on the rear car?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/wL4zqx.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNION-PACIFI...item43d7328306

I had no idea there was neon on any train, let alone the 'City of Los Angeles'.

Looking closer, I see that it's encased (is that plexiglass?) to protect it from flying rocks and what-not.
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tovangar2 Feb 10, 2015 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido (Post 6909515)
"Okey. She's in an apartment house at 28 Court Street, up on Bunker Hill. Apartment 301"

LOL, thank you!
Was 28 Court Street a real address?

ethereal_reality Feb 10, 2015 11:06 PM

Kodachrome slide-1979

Here's the Holiday Inn I mentioned earlier today....looming over Grauman's (then Mann's) Chinese.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/NLLcL2.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Koda...item35e4fe2fbd
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tovangar2 Feb 10, 2015 11:50 PM

Thank you again. Gorgeous aerial. The first thing I thought of when seeing it was of all the trouble they had moving the high school off Poundcake Hill.
Court Flight (on the lower margin across from the Hall of Records) was in operation, I think, from 1905 to 1943.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6909490)
Aerial dated August 1932.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/kCLPpX.jpg
eBay

In the upper left corner Union Station is under construction. -and if you look closely, you can see Lugo House (with its three dormer windows)
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Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6909710)
Kodachrome slide-1979

Here's the Holiday Inn I mentioned earlier today....looming over Grauman's (then Mann's) Chinese.

That's another location for 2004's "Collateral" . The Panorama Suite ($2,550 per night) is in the round section on the top.
This particular director is very fond of combining two or three different locations into one.

In the neo-noir film, Vincent the hit man enters the old I. Magnin's at 3240 Wilshire Blvd but when he gets upstairs, we're in the Panorama Suite.
Furthermore, the green-screened view out the windows is the one from the roof of the Superior Oil building/ Standard Hotel in DTLA.
Leaves one sort of breathless.

Martin Pal Feb 11, 2015 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6909583)
Did the 'City of Los Angeles' really have it's name spelled out in NEON on the rear car?__

Apparently so! I just found this photo HERE that shows the train and it's neon sign on the "Domeliner" car.

http://streamlinermemories.info/UP/COLADrumhead.jpg

No date or location for the photo. There was also a City of Portland Domeliner that had a neon sign.
(A neon drumhead they called it in the post.)

ethereal_reality Feb 11, 2015 1:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6909782)
That's another location for 2004's "Collateral" . The Panorama Suite ($2,550 per night) is in the round section on the top.
This particular director is very fond of combining two or three different locations into one.

In the neo-noir film, Vincent the hit man enters the old I. Magnin's at 3240 Wilshire Blvd but when he gets upstairs, we're in the Panorama Suite.
Furthermore, the green-screened view out the windows is the one from the roof of the Superior Oil building/ Standard Hotel in DTLA.
Leaves one sort of breathless.

:previous: I didn't know this T2. I think 'Collateral' is an excellent neo-noir.



below: And to think this started out as a touristy Holiday Inn revolving restaurant.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...909/JBjrMO.jpg
http://www.loewshotels.com/hollywood...dations/suites

So how many revolving spaces are left in Los Angeles? I remember going to the top of the Bonaventure for drinks in the 1980s.
It revolved very sloooowly. My friend and I thought it was great. Does it still revolve?
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Wig-Wag Feb 11, 2015 1:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6909871)
Apparently so! I just found this photo HERE that shows the train and it's neon sign on the "Domeliner" car.

http://streamlinermemories.info/UP/COLADrumhead.jpg

No date or location for the photo. There was also a City of Portland Domeliner that had a neon sign.
(A neon drumhead they called it in the post.)

From the same website, here is the neon in all it's glory!

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...pstqghrhxk.jpg

Cheers,
Jack


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