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Beaudry Dec 21, 2020 1:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9138880)
^^^

Looks intriguing, but is it all crime focused (as noir usually is) since noir means dark or black? Do you plan to some have stories on "feel good" non-crime stories as well from the "noir" era in L.A., as this very blog by ethereal reality often does? Many people (even during the Depression) lived ordinary and often happy lives back then, as we do now ( at least until the pandemic hit). How much do you plan to charge? Will it be available online as well as paper? Good work! Thanks Beaudry! Hope you do well with this.

Thanks, and I hope so too! My profit margin is surprisingly slim (quality paper, printing locally, hiring a real designer, these things cost a bundle) but if I sell enough...we'll see!

In answer to your question, yes, it is 100% dark and terrible! Though in the opening essay I discuss how it isn't really fair to paint Bunker Hill with such a bleak brush (but for the purposes of this mag, I do it anyway). I absolutely agree, there were a lot of happy people on the Hill—which I discuss at length in my book, and which is why sunshine is part of that book's title.

This project though was the result of my publishers looking a the litany of true crime I'd penned into that book and saying "well this is a depressing slog" and cutting it all out. So I had to do SOMETHING with it! Actually, that said, there is a lot of other stuff in Bunker Noir! besides crime and murder. There's a section on crazy car stunts, on wacky architecture, the famed Cooper donut riot, the Lizard People of Fort Moore, the abandoned cemetery, Klansmen, fires—anything I thought kind of mondo and offbeat that you wouldn't find in a traditional, serious city guidebook.

And no, definitely not online. I'm a big fan of ink and paper. And its cost is $28; all that info is here.

Barstowboy Dec 21, 2020 1:41 AM

After seeing the self-promoting blurb for your book, I ordered one. I already have 'Bunker Hill Los Angeles' - a marvelous work.
I'm looking forward to 'Bunker Noir'.

ethereal_reality Dec 21, 2020 2:45 AM

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We've seen this intersection so many times on NLA I almost didn't post the slide. - but then I noticed something curious.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/mwRBZQ.jpg
Sunset & Vine (1960)

On the far-right edge of the slide there is a small coctail lounge called Stan's Playrooms that I don't recall seeing from this angle.







Stan's Playrooms appears to be identical to the 25er cocktail lounges that were owned by Stan of Stan's Drive-in fame. (below)



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/tQBXeD.jpg
skyscraperpage

GW figured out the white curve behind this 25er is the domed roof of the Wilshire Arts building.







Minutes ago, the slide sold for $283.00

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/J68cd1.jpg
eBay



Hmmm. . .I wonder why it is Stan's Playrooms (plural) and not Stan's Playroom (singular)?
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Noir_Noir Dec 21, 2020 1:32 PM

:previous:


Detail from a 1955 Stan's Playrooms signage permit application.

https://i.imgur.com/uoU2ATj.jpg
ladbsdoc.lacity.org


Framed prints on request. :D

Martin Pal Dec 21, 2020 5:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9139086)
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We've seen this intersection so many times on NLA I almost didn't post the slide. - but then I noticed something curious.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/mwRBZQ.jpg
Sunset & Vine (1960)

On the far-right edge of the slide there is a small cocktail lounge called Stan's Playrooms that I don't recall seeing from this angle.
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Look at the rainbow of colored automobiles in this photo. You haven't seen that in many a year. Or decade.

I see Charlie Barnet is playing at the Palladium! (Or coming soon)

Photo taken at 3:20 p.m.*

There's a metal sign in the road, on the bottom left, that isn't in pictures of this intersection that I can recall seeing before.

Radio station KPOP is new to me.
_______

*(Assuming the clock isn't broken.)

Lwize Dec 22, 2020 1:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9139401)
Look at the rainbow of colored automobiles in this photo. You haven't seen that in many a year. Or decade.

I see Charlie Barnet is playing at the Palladium! (Or coming soon)

Photo taken at 3:20 p.m.*

There's a metal sign in the road, on the bottom left, that isn't in pictures of this intersection that I can recall seeing before.

Radio station KPOP is new to me.
_______

*(Assuming the clock isn't broken.)

Clear, blue sky looks unusual for 1960 Los Angeles.

;)

HenryHuntington Dec 22, 2020 4:12 AM

There's a metal sign in the road, on the bottom left, that isn't in pictures of this intersection that I can recall seeing before.

Pretty common at major intersections back then for LAPD traffic detail to roll "No Left Turn" signs out for rush hours (remember when it was only an hour or two?) or other congested times and then roll them back onto the sidewalk afterward. IIRC, this practice ended with the adoption of left-turn-only lanes, etc. Traffic in the photo doesn't look bad at all, so maybe the lads didn't get around to putting the sign back after the morning rush..

Photo taken at 3:20 p.m. (Assuming the clock isn't broken.)

Shadows suggest closer to early afternoon to me, FWIW.

I see Charlie Barnet is playing at the Palladium!

Johnny Magnus likes to tell the story about his slogan: "Swing and sway with Sammy Kaye? Well, swing and sweat with Charlie Barnet!"

And, as it happens, KPOP and predecessors and successors have had quite a run: https://www.radioheritage.net/Story28.asp

ethereal_reality Dec 22, 2020 5:29 AM

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Here's a second slide, dated 1960, that was probably taken by the same person who took the Sunset and Vine slide. (same seller)

"Original Slide, The Brown Derby Restaurant in Hollywood, Los Angeles CA 1960"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/NwfEsp.jpg
eBay (sold)


So when was this awful (modernized) entrance tacked on the front?

If you look closely you can see the reflection of the wrought(?) iron sconces on the 'marquee'.



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Noir_Noir Dec 22, 2020 4:08 PM

:previous:

August 1959 permit for the alteration of street front wall and addition of two marquees.


https://i.imgur.com/SWKDXEb.jpg
ladbsdoc.lacity.org

ethereal_reality Dec 22, 2020 6:23 PM


Thanks for the information on the Noir Noir.




And I'd like a box of playing cards with this image on the back.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/7sOhwc.jpg
created by NOIR NOIR



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ethereal_reality Dec 22, 2020 7:08 PM

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A snapshot of the 77 Sunset Strip strip club on Sunset Blvd. in 1975.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/GsUncr.jpg
reddit

I'm surprised this place avoided litigation over using the name. I don't think they'd get away with it now days.







8929 Sunset, today.*

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/YuPaAj.jpg


That's quite a difference from the 1975 snapshot!


*Thanks for the correction, Lwize.
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odinthor Dec 23, 2020 12:00 AM

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The thing about the Sunset Strip in its glory days, e_r, was that it was a "county island"--that is, though surrounded by incorporated land, it itself wasn't part of an incorporated city, least of all Los Angeles, so the rules were different (laxer, or lacking); and enforcement of what laws and rules there were wasn't by the LAPD but rather by ? the County Sheriff I guess, all of which brought about a . . . different aura.

Lwize Dec 23, 2020 1:12 AM

They went from topless girls to topless cars....

;)

CaliNative Dec 23, 2020 5:12 AM

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;9140349].


A snapshot of the 77 Sunset Strip strip club on Sunset Blvd. in 1975.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/GsUncr.jpg
reddit

I'm surprised this place avoided litigation over using the name. I don't think they'd get away with it now days.

^^^^
Pretty clever name for a strip joint on Sunset. Maybe the producers of the TV show thought it was clever so they didn't sue (the early '60s show may have been in reruns), or maybe they did sue and that's why the club closed. Honorary sleuth award for any person who finds out why the strip joint closed, or if they were sued. I bet Kookie was a regular at the strip joint. Maybe he was the parking lot attendant in the lot behind.

ethereal_reality Dec 23, 2020 6:22 AM

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There are three 4 x 5 negatives for sale on eBay of the De Ville Motel and the surrounding area on 7th Street.


This is the negative I happened upon first. ...We're looking west on 7th Street.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/hwYqhH.jpg
eBay






I was peasantly surprised when I came across this 2nd negative looking east towards the Statler Hotel.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/wSZAt6.jpg
eBay

The policeman must be in al's enjoying a cup of coffee....hmm. . .I wonder if al's is lower case because de Ville is? (lower case)

note the map store down the block.





And lastly, the 3rd negative was taken from the De Ville parking ramp looking south towards the fine old building across the street.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/dCoAxz.jpg
eBay


Sadly, the building across the street is gone. :( ...Does anyone know the name of the building or its purpose? (and when it was demolished)


I thought it was an apartment building but then I noticed it doesn't have a front entrance.



The de Villa Motel is still in business as the City Center Hotel.

1123 W. 7th Street

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Noir_Noir Dec 23, 2020 9:11 AM

:previous:


Howell Terrace Apartments - demolished in 1971.


Lots more in Flyingwedge's post from 2017.


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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7797342)


Noir_Noir Dec 23, 2020 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9140349)
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A snapshot of the 77 Sunset Strip strip club on Sunset Blvd. in 1975.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/GsUncr.jpg
reddit

I'm surprised this place avoided litigation over using the name. I don't think they'd get away with it now days.



The club's former name was Rogue's Gallery - seen here in 1973.


https://i.imgur.com/l0UH1X8.jpg
getty.edu


Roger Smith, one of 77 Sunset Strip's stars, last screen role was in the 1968 film Rogue's Gallery.



:???: :shrug:

ethereal_reality Dec 23, 2020 4:15 PM

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hmmm. . .maybe Roger Smith was a silent partner....(or not-so-silent partner)

HossC Dec 23, 2020 5:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9140795)

There are three 4 x 5 negatives for sale on eBay of the De Ville Motel and the surrounding area on 7th Street.

This is the negative I happened upon first.
We're looking west on 7th Street.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/hwYqhH.jpg
eBay

Here's a reminder of the Motel de Ville postcard that I posted back in 2013. There's a more recent GSV image of the building in the full post.

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6308012)

I spotted this postcard on Ebay recently, and I can't find it in any previous postings. It's the Motel de Ville, 1123 West 7th Street.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eldeVille1.jpg
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eldeVille2.jpg
Ebay


GaylordWilshire Dec 23, 2020 5:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9140795)
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There are three 4 x 5 negatives for sale on eBay of the De Ville Motel and the surrounding area on 7th Street.


This is the negative I happened upon first. ...We're looking west on 7th Street.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/hwYqhH.jpg
eBay


A little color:

https://i.postimg.cc/cCBrVnFy/deville-LApc-bmp.jpg


Sounding ritzy like the Cadillac, there were probably Motel de Villes all over the country. I'm reminded of a contemporanous Motel de Ville in my hometown of New Orleans...along a long strip of humping academies out toward the airport there. (This De Ville is gone.)

https://i.postimg.cc/RV0SMyFn/devillenola-bmp.jpg


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