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jg6544 Dec 4, 2020 9:21 PM

The Christmas tree looks like it's in the old Bullocks-Wilshire store on Wilshire Blvd.

ethereal_reality Dec 5, 2020 7:51 PM

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Here's an interesting rppc currently on eBay


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/684RzL.jpg
eBay






Let's take a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/AAq4Ew.jpg

On the left you can see the L.(?) Watson & Son Meat Market.




And the back tells us this is Glendale CA.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/UcEdJj.jpg



What we don't know is the name of the street.



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ethereal_reality Dec 5, 2020 8:31 PM

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I am quite sure we have seen the Garvanza Villa Hotel on NLA (I can't locate the post) but we haven't seen this view that just showed up on eBay.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/eMs0ic.jpg
eBay









Here's a super-duper closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/zSbok2.jpg





. . .and the reverse.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/hdlN0t.jpg



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Beaudry Dec 6, 2020 1:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9125938)





Here's a super-duper closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/zSbok2.jpg







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Bang! I bought that in a heartbeat. I live pretty close to the same neighborhood as the Garvanza Villa. Or where it was, anyway. Which is here:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e404ae34_h.jpgusc

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6f57cf54_h.jpgbingmaps

Can't find a demo permit, but 121 South Avenue 63 was built in 1925, so I'm guessing it went down around then. Here's another shot of it:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0ceb8cd9_h.jpgusc

The view looking out over the Arroyo must have been incredible*. Designed by Boring and Haas, it was built in 1886.

*Edit: the view is still pretty swell. As are the 1920s apartments that replaced it—

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...af998292_h.jpggsv

JimCraig Dec 6, 2020 5:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 9126099)
Bang! I bought that in a heartbeat. I live pretty close to the same neighborhood as the Garvanza Villa. Or where it was, anyway. Which is here:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e404ae34_h.jpgusc

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6f57cf54_h.jpgbingmaps

Can't find a demo permit, but 211-221 South Avenue 63 was built in 1925, so I'm guessing it went down around then. Here's another shot of it:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0ceb8cd9_h.jpgusc

The view looking out over the Arroyo must have been incredible*. Designed by Boring and Haas, it was built in 1886.

*Edit: the view is still pretty swell. As are the 1920s apartments that replaced it—

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...af998292_h.jpggsv

Congratulations on your purchase. It never ceases to amaze me what shows up on ebay. Good price too. Sometimes the Sellers get greedy. You live in an interesting neighborhood. What is the "official" name of your neighborhood - "Garvanza Villa Heights"?,

Andys Dec 6, 2020 5:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 9126099)
Bang! I bought that in a heartbeat. I live pretty close to the same neighborhood as the Garvanza Villa. Or where it was, anyway. Which is here:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e404ae34_h.jpgusc

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6f57cf54_h.jpgbingmaps

Can't find a demo permit, but 211-221 South Avenue 63 was built in 1925, so I'm guessing it went down around then. Here's another shot of it:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0ceb8cd9_h.jpgusc

The view looking out over the Arroyo must have been incredible*. Designed by Boring and Haas, it was built in 1886.

*Edit: the view is still pretty swell. As are the 1920s apartments that replaced it—

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...af998292_h.jpggsv

Interesting to me, is how short lived was this magnificent structure was; 40 years, and it's gone! Perhaps its life was interrupted by fire, or earthquake?
andys

Lwize Dec 6, 2020 8:07 PM

Termites.

Martin Pal Dec 6, 2020 10:04 PM

Thanks, Beaudry, great additional photo and also the 1920's apartments!

Noir_Noir Dec 7, 2020 2:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 9126099)
Bang! I bought that in a heartbeat. I live pretty close to the same neighborhood as the Garvanza Villa. Or where it was, anyway.

Can't find a demo permit, but 211-221 South Avenue 63 was built in 1925, so I'm guessing it went down around then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys (Post 9126408)
Interesting to me, is how short lived was this magnificent structure was; 40 years, and it's gone! Perhaps its life was interrupted by fire, or earthquake?
andys


It appears the Garvanza Villa Hotel was destroyed by fire.

https://i.imgur.com/uBbE3g4.jpg
planning.lacity.org


This is the demolition permit from March 1924.

https://i.imgur.com/cC2UKGq.jpg
ladbsdoc.lacity.org

Bristolian Dec 7, 2020 7:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimCraig (Post 9126227)
Congratulations on your purchase. It never ceases to amaze me what shows up on ebay. Good price too. Sometimes the Sellers get greedy. You live in an interesting neighborhood. What is the "official" name of your neighborhood - "Garvanza Villa Heights"?,

According to Google Maps, and surprising to me, the area is known as "Garvanza". I had never heard of it.

https://i.imgur.com/wXBPNxz.png?1Google Maps

Garvanza Hardware is still in business just around the corner from the former location of the Garvanza Villa.

https://i.imgur.com/VGB94Yc.png?1GSV

https://i.imgur.com/zTwu3IK.png?1

CityBoyDoug Dec 7, 2020 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9125902)
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Here's an interesting rppc currently on eBay





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What is rppc...? That's new to me.

Earl Boebert Dec 8, 2020 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 9127385)
What is rppc...? That's new to me.

Real Photograph Post Card (as opposed to a reproduction by lithograph or some other means.) Used special photographic paper:

https://www.playle.com/realphoto/

Cheers,

Earl

ethereal_reality Dec 8, 2020 5:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9115905)
Here's an interesting rppc. (real photograph post card)

Earl beat me to it, CBD.




A quick return to the Garvanza Villa Hotel.

The hotel under construction. (1885)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/LhXy2n.jpg
Los Angeles Public Library


"The Garvanza Villa Hotel under construction at the corner of what are now Avenue 63 and York Blvd."... KCET







A late 1886 view looking north from the second floor of the hotel.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/WF0cL0.jpg
Garvanza by Charles J. Fisher


"The photograph shows Pasadena Avenue (now York Boulevard) passing the newly completed Land Company
building (later called Miller's Hall) and the Wells Fargo Station."
...Charles J. Fisher

So which one is the Santa Fe Station? I don't see any railroad tracks. :shrug:







Lastly, here's a photograph taken from the porch of the Garvanza Villa Hotel.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/AhPom6.jpg
Garvanza by Charles J. Fisher

"When the $20,000 hotel opened on November 1886 it was sometimes referred to as the 'Garvanza Park Hotel'. This view of the Arroyo Seco includes Sugar Loaf Hill
which was to become known as 'Santa Fe Hill' when the railroad bought out the 'Los Angeles & San Gabriel Railroad' the following January."
. . . .Charles J. Fisher

The hanging plant at the end of the porch appears to be taking the brunt of the wind.




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ethereal_reality Dec 8, 2020 4:14 PM

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There is a group of original slides that were just listed on eBay.

They're being sold separately.


Here's the first slide. (my favorite)...I'll post the rest later today.

Looking south on Olive Street toward the Biltmore Hotel. (1950s?)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/t6o76b.jpg
eBay

We've seen this view many times on NLA but it's always exciting to see a never-seen-before original. The empty lot on the right is the former site of the Fremont Hotel. :previous:



This one.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/eUa1gv.jpg
img.i

side note:...The Fremont can be seen in a few film noirs.








Also too. . .

I'm curious about the skybridges connecting the two white buildings. I don't recall seeing them before.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/GO5ixg.jpg
detail

The top two are obviously passageways for employees.




Just for fun.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/3gCN6F.jpg
detail

note the Christmas thingy. I know we've discussed them before but I don't remember what we decided they were. umm. . .a place to post letters to Santa?


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ethereal_reality Dec 8, 2020 4:59 PM

Here are two more from the same group.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/yeytN5.jpg
eBay

The Los Angeles County Courthouse designed by African-American arthitect Paul Williams.



Additional info. for newbies.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/EGeZhX.jpg
dailyjournal

See the clock. Read below:

"The gigantic clock with the 11-foot hands and large Roman numerals first appeared in Los Angeles County's 'Clocktower Courthouse' in 1861.
The clock was transferred to the 'Red Sandstone Courthouse' in 1891. After sitting in storage, the clock was retrieved and installed in the Mid-Century
Los Angeles Courthouse, shown above."
...dailyjournal

That is amazing. I'm surprised the clock survived all those different moves from one place to another.

(most of you no doubt already knew this story)








https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/QEp9O8.jpg
eBay

For newcomers:...

The massive building in front of City Hall is the old California State Building. It was damaged in the 1971 Sylmar Earthquake & demolished in 1975-76. :(


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GaylordWilshire Dec 8, 2020 6:53 PM

:previous:


Here is a post from 2011 re the clock...it seems to be missing its LAPL images, but I take it that the old clock may have been on display in the Mosk courthouse, not on top of the building...

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...postcount=2465

Martin Pal Dec 8, 2020 9:30 PM

I've been watching Get Smart lately and I just thought I'd ask... In the Season 3 intro, below, what are the two buildings we see right at the start?
The one in the background (is it the Hall of Records?) and then the one he drives up to?

Video Link

HossC Dec 8, 2020 10:53 PM

:previous:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9128366)
I've been watching Get Smart lately and I just thought I'd ask... In the Season 3 intro, below, what are the two buildings we see right at the start?
The one in the background (is it the Hall of Records?) and then the one he drives up to?

The building in the background is the Hall of Records, and he parks outside the Broadway entrance to the Hall of Justice (you can see the name over the door as he goes in).

Beaudry Dec 9, 2020 3:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimCraig (Post 9126227)
Congratulations on your purchase. It never ceases to amaze me what shows up on ebay. Good price too. Sometimes the Sellers get greedy. You live in an interesting neighborhood. What is the "official" name of your neighborhood - "Garvanza Villa Heights"?,

I agree, good price, and agreed, sellers will at times go overboard in testing the market. That said, hey, it's whatever the market will bear. Especially in these weird, lean times. And I'm on a definite postcard & slide diet. (That said, I did just spend a good piece of change on this.)

And as Bristolian pointed out, the area is Garvanza, though to be exact I'm Garvanza-adjacent, in the Avenues of Highland Park. I did just go through the Jack In The Box drive-thru the other night, right there on the storied Garvanza Villa land...

Despite what it says in the City Planning Dept HPOZ report on Garvanza, I don't think there was a fire. A fire would have made the papers, for one thing. Also, there was a big auction beforehand, which leads me to believe it was their intention to tear it down:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3eaec92d_c.jpgnewspapers.com

And then Whiting-Mead tear it down come March:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d9273d16_c.jpgnewspapers.com

What I don't get, is the use of 156 S Ave 63 in that notice, or in the demo permit that Noir_Noir posted. Seems to me the GV was on the other side of the street; many times its address is given as 121:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c79e02ef_o.pngnewspapers.com

...so I guess the subject of its address is something of a mystery.

Beaudry Dec 9, 2020 3:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9127958)
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Also too. . .

I'm curious about the skybridges connecting the two white buildings. I don't recall seeing them before.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/GO5ixg.jpg
detail

The top two are obviously passageways for employees.




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It's funny, I just did a post where I referenced being on an eBay spending diet, but I intend to "go big" on this one, because man do I want that sucker. Such an interesting point in time, after they tore down the Fremont for the Fourth St Cut in 1954, but before they tore down the rest of the wall (here I am going on about like a crazy person 'bout that wall).

What really gets me is that it shows the pedestrian bridges between the two telephone buildings. The Pacific Telephone and Telegraph offices at left (Bliss & Faville, 1924) was joined to the new Southern California Telephone HQ (Charles Day Woodford) when it was finished in 1947. We've seen the shot by the great Palmer Conner here on NLA before I'm sure:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0442f843_b.jpgHuntington Library


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