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Noir_Noir Apr 24, 2019 2:58 PM

:previous:


A rare early prototype of this ...


https://i.imgur.com/JudkG90.jpg


... before they figured out you didn't need the handle.

Fnarf Apr 24, 2019 5:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8550572)
now..about that man's umbrella.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/Sa2TCw.jpg
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I think that's just a fellow in a regular Panama hat, and the white parasol is in the row in front of him. The contrast between the two has washed out.

badrunner Apr 24, 2019 7:10 PM

What gets me about those old pics is how people were dressed in the middle of July!

badrunner Apr 24, 2019 7:35 PM

Just a couple of pictures of structures that are no longer with us.

The original shell of the Hollywood Bowl in 1926. I think I like it better than the current one. It was so much more massive and imposing.

https://i.postimg.cc/W12W74BL/Hollyw...1926-800px.jpg
waterandpower


Here's a very noirish 1943 photo of the Carthay Circle Theater (1926-1969). Sad to see this one go.

https://waterandpower.org/Historical...ircle_1943.jpg
waterandpower

JScott Apr 24, 2019 8:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 8548523)
Here's an image of the El Rancho Santa Anita Shopping Center looking the other way, with the 1955 addition of Crawford's Valley National Bank to the south:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...cb703a07_o.pngold postcard

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You'll note the El Rancho Market in the distance in the postcard image. That was there first. El Rancho Supermarket opened in mid-1948, near the Santa Anita Racetrack, which Crawford had worked on in the early-1930s. Crawford was a master of the Late Moderne—dig the large sign pylon. Said the San Marino Tribune on June 1, 1948, "The market has two walls almost entirely of glass so that customers have a view of the mountains while they shop."

Once the center had twenty stores and twenty-four offices, it was officially dedicated by Mayor Sullivan in May, 1950. These shots are by Shulman and the Getty says they're 1951 so LAPL's ca. 1955 date is off a few.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...b2b91de1_o.pnggetty

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...b4c00b34_o.png

The market is completely demolished; it's basically now the parking lot of a big ol' beige concrete thing with no glass.


Wow. This really jogged a 'til-now lost old memory. Just scrolling past this at first, I thought, those buildings looked strangely familiar, so I scrolled back, and then the memory of the El Rancho Market and that little shopping center returned instantly to mind.

Back when my age was in single digits (55+ years ago now), there were two markets that my mom would drive far out of her way for: Jurgensen's in Pasadena (to little Me, just another boring place with weird smells), and the El Rancho Market. I remember the bright interior of the latter vividly, but until now, that mental image was disconnected from the actual place. Now I know that was El Rancho Market. Sad to know it is gone now. (Along with so much from those days.)

Anyway, Mom originally went to El Rancho because, when she and Dad were first married, they lived in Arcadia, and that was the closest supermarket to their apartment. I forget now exactly what she went there for in later years, but there was something that El Rancho carried that she couldn't get anywhere else. Same with Jurgensen's. That was quite a distance to drive when we later lived in Glendora and Covina, pre-Foothill Freeway, so those items and those stores must have been pretty special.

Thanks for the restored memory, Beaudry!

-Scott

GatoVerde Apr 24, 2019 8:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinTurnbull (Post 8549043)
Thanks HossC. I thought it wasn't like that an LA joint that looked like this couldn't have popped up in these pages before.

It appears to have been a trend, maybe even a chain of these sombrero cafes. Here's an old one in Tijuana on Aguas Calientes Blvd. I remember it there since the 60s -- my aunt took me there once -- the food was good. It looks like they've built onto and around it in an effort to hide the cheesy hat a little.

http://www.califaztlan.org/LANoirPics/elSombrero.jpg

ethereal_reality Apr 25, 2019 12:38 AM

mystery location.


"Los Angeles Home / Residence - Near Large Glass Shop, Street # 717"

Front view. (the street number is visible on the door)

#1

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/bqO5mQ.jpg
Ebay



"C1930 lot of 2 photos one is the front the other the back yard. The house number is 717. On the back it is noted about the big glass works which is partly visible in the #2 photo (below).
The lady that wrote the information is Aurie, I have her in another photo of a gathering in Easter Sunday in Los Angeles, I am pretty sure this home is not far from the other one that is on W 41st st."
THE SELLER.............................




#2

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/DURMRc.jpg
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The layout is a bit odd. It vaguely looks like a courtyard :shrug:




A closer look at the near-by Glass Shop.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/NGrKZa.jpg
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Reverse of photo #1...........................................................................................Reverse of photo #2
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/jdO8Z5.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/fY0yt3.jpg


Since Aurie is a rather unique first name I decided to look up a few Auries in told city directories....but NONE of them matched up with a #717 street number. :(


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ethereal_reality Apr 25, 2019 12:59 AM

OK folks, I just found the 'Easter' photograph that the seller mentions in the post above.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/IaIZY9.jpg
Ebay



Who's Who

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/tC7l3P.jpg

..perhaps this will help us locate (in a roundabout way) Aurie's little house near the glass works.



Get sleuthing SLEUTHS ! :)

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FredH Apr 25, 2019 3:10 AM

:previous:

https://oi445.photobucket.com/albums.../Capture_4.png


845 W. 41st Street

https://oi445.photobucket.com/albums...Capture1_5.png
Google Street View

Maybe??


On the other house...I'm stuck

Fnarf Apr 25, 2019 5:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8551418)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/tC7l3P.jpg

..perhaps this will help us locate (in a roundabout way) Aurie's little house near the glass works..

I hate to say it, but I think that's "Annie" in both cases, in the accursed Palmer script of the time. I've seen letters from my grandmother (b.1900) that just look like endless ocean wave peaks like that.

CityBoyDoug Apr 25, 2019 7:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnarf (Post 8552239)
I hate to say it, but I think that's "Annie" in both cases, in the accursed Palmer script of the time. I've seen letters from my grandmother (b.1900) that just look like endless ocean wave peaks like that.

The Palmer cursive was easy for kids to learn and it was fast to write as it was all connected.

The Spencer script is nice but a bit fancy for children. Adults liked it because it looks sophisticated and elegant.

FredH Apr 26, 2019 1:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatoVerde (Post 8551170)
It appears to have been a trend, maybe even a chain of these sombrero cafes. Here's an old one in Tijuana on Aguas Calientes Blvd. I remember it there since the 60s -- my aunt took me there once -- the food was good. It looks like they've built onto and around it in an effort to hide the cheesy hat a little.

http://www.califaztlan.org/LANoirPics/elSombrero.jpg



I still like the original place.

https://oi445.photobucket.com/albums...Capture2_1.png

I don't think those three guys are there to sample the guacamole dip. I'm pretty sure the tequila is flowing.

ethereal_reality Apr 26, 2019 4:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnarf (Post 8552239)

I think that's "Annie" in both cases, in the accursed Palmer script of the time.

hmmm....perhaps you're right, Fnarf...but let's take a closer look.

Here are the three times it is written. (#3 might not be in Aurie's/Annie's hand)

#1.................................................................................................#2........................................................................................................#3
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...921/gIUqiM.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...924/CC9Cug.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...924/gXUamZ.jpg


And don't forget the seller's description:
'The lady that wrote the information is Aurie, I have her in another photo of a gathering in Easter Sunday in Los Angeles.'

If you follow the way the cursive would had flowed....it is definitely more Aurie...and less Annie.



Plus...I just want it to Aurie. ( familiar for Aura)




below: Frances Farmer singing Aura Lee in the movie, 'Come And Get It' (1936).

Video Link


Frances plays the saloon singer with, somewhat, manish mannerisms....because later in the film, she plays the saloon singer's demure daughter.

-She shines in the dual role.




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ethereal_reality Apr 26, 2019 4:32 AM

I believe these two photographs are from the same group as the 'Aurie' photographs. (the seller is the same...and the writing on the back is similar)



"Bell California 1930s Home Residence 6247 Prospect Ave Lot of 2 Photo."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/VITUOD.jpg
Ebay







https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/9rUEvQ.jpg
Ebay



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/24i4Zg.jpg
Ebay



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Lorendoc Apr 26, 2019 4:38 AM

Elks Parade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 8548411)

More from the Dead Horse Dept.

With acorn8332's identification of the Hill St. light fixtures, I am warming to BillinGlendaleCA's suggestion of 1111 S. Hill being the address of the print shop in the parade photo. Here is the 1921 Baist of the west side of Hill between 11th and 12th:

https://i.imgur.com/E4YRM5L.jpg
historicmapworks.com

As you can see, there are several narrow brick buildings side by side extending south from the SW corner of Hill and 11th, the last being 1111 and 1113. I think the first photo shows these two. The printing business was at 1111 at the right edge of the photo. At 1113 was the Los Angeles Mantle & Tile Co. Is it reading too much into the photo to think that the circled tile decoration on 1113 was a nod to the business contained inside?

https://i.imgur.com/Io5drhH.jpg

The large structure behind the float was 1115 S. Hill, the Foster Apartments (two stories, 20 rooms, replaced by a parking lot in 1926). (Not to be confused with another Foster Apartments at 1635 West Seventh St.)

Here are the 1894 and 1906 Sanborns:

https://i.imgur.com/RNLJxLU.jpg
lapl.org
https://i.imgur.com/N24ABIC.jpg
lapl.org

As you can see, they moved the pre-1894 building to the back of the lot by 1906 and renumbered it 1115 1/2. 1111 housed an engraving/bookbinding business at least through 1955.

FredH Apr 26, 2019 6:10 AM

:previous:

Very nice summation E.R.

Interesting how it all came together piece by piece:

Newspaper clippings came out with parade routes

Someone identifies the street by the light globes in the photo

A slightly different photo pops up that shows the print shop

Someone finds the address of the print shop.

Finally, you lay it all out, using the old maps.


Now it can stay undisturbed in the "dead horse" department

FredH Apr 26, 2019 6:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8552854)
I believe these two photographs are from the same group as the 'Aurie' photographs. (the seller is the same...and the writing on the back is similar)



"Bell California 1930s Home Residence 6247 Prospect Ave Lot of 2 Photo."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/VITUOD.jpg
Ebay







https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/9rUEvQ.jpg
Ebay



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/24i4Zg.jpg
Ebay



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Ouch!

https://oi445.photobucket.com/albums...kley/house.png
Google Street View

CaliNative Apr 26, 2019 9:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8552364)
The Palmer cursive was easy for kids to learn and it was fast to write as it was all connected.

The Spencer script is nice but a bit fancy for children. Adults liked it because it looks sophisticated and elegant.

Is it true cursive (longhand) script is no longer taught in some (most?) primary/secondary schools? Do they still grade on "penmenship"? It seems like most young people today don't use cursive. Most kids today appear to use stand alone block print. They lose the faster speed of cursive, although some people have (had) almost unreadable script. Cursive going the way of handwritten letters sent through the mail. What will archives look like in the future since most communication is now electronic? Progress???

On another subject, anybody watching that guy on Jeopardy win millions? Although I never took the time to go through the contestant selection process, I used to think I could win on that show since I know trivia in a lot of areas, but not against that guy. Unreal. His bets are Texas hold'em bets--not afraid to shove "all in" on the daily doubles--a real gambler.

Martin Pal Apr 26, 2019 3:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 8552902)
Ouch!

6247 Prospect Ave., Bell, CA
https://oi445.photobucket.com/albums...kley/house.png
Google Street View


When you look this up on GSV there's a huge white gasometer shaped tank in the lot next door to this place. What the heck is that for, I wonder, in the middle of all these little residential houses?

Fnarf Apr 26, 2019 5:54 PM

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;8552843]hmmm....perhaps you're right, Fnarf...but let's take a closer look.

Here are the three times it is written. (#3 might not be in Aurie's/Annie's hand)

#1.................................................................................................#2........................................................................................................#3
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...921/gIUqiM.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...924/CC9Cug.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...924/gXUamZ.jpg

Well, having examined the preponderance of evidence, I do believe you're right, and I am wrong. First time that's ever happened (since 20 minutes ago at least). "Correction" retracted.


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