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ethereal_reality Aug 24, 2017 12:45 AM

"Douglas Aircraft Company workers bow in silent prayer during lunch, June 6, 1944." (D-Day)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/jzukIZ.jpg
http://framework.latimes.com/2014/06...os-angeles/#/7

I'm curious about the house on the hillside (in the distance, upper left)


here's my blurry enlargement.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/MJoxg7.jpgdetail

but there aren't too many hills in Santa Monica, especially near the Douglas Plant.

I'm stumped.

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ethereal_reality Aug 24, 2017 1:36 AM

This 5 x 7 glass negative was listed on ebay several months ago.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/NFC9Xj.jpg

"Emmet M. Hicks Feed & Fuel Co., Gardena Calif. [no date]




Here's the positive image, enlarged. (sorry the top is cropped off)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/X3u3K0.jpg

There's no date, but I'd guess about 1900s(?)

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CityBoyDoug Aug 24, 2017 1:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7901894)
"Douglas Aircraft Company workers bow in silent prayer during lunch, June 6, 1944." (D-Day)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/jzukIZ.jpg
http://framework.latimes.com/2014/06...os-angeles/#/7

I'm curious about the house on the hillside (in the distance, upper left)


here's my blurry enlargement.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/MJoxg7.jpgdetail

but there aren't too many hills in Santa Monica, especially near the Douglas Plant.

I'm stumped.

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I believe those are fake houses on the roof of the factory....''camouflage".

Downtownkid Aug 24, 2017 1:46 AM

That's a nice Photo of the employees of Douglas Aircraft Co. and on D day no less.

https://preview.ibb.co/huFdmk/Castel...os_Angeles.jpg

Castelar Street School Los Angeles 1925. Rare photo of this school taken by my Pop. Negative from family photos -North Broadway Area.

Camera pointing west on Castelar Street. Building located on corner of Castelar St. and College St.- Address 508 College St.


https://preview.ibb.co/edQYK5/1921_J...D_GRADE_A3.jpg

Dad's report card from Castelar school in 1921.

ethereal_reality Aug 24, 2017 1:50 AM

:previous: Another great photograph! Thanks so much for sharing them with us Downtownkid.



A quick glimpse of the Long Beach Pike in under a minute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcNdCh-n7-k




I saved a screengrab, or two.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/BxHA3h.jpg



At .46 seconds there's a little shack surrounded by an audience.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/7Na2zm.jpg

For the life of me I can not figure out what the people are watching. (it looks like two cans are hanging from string)

And written directly on the shack is " America's Greatest something or other."

Can anyone make out the third word?

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ProphetM Aug 24, 2017 1:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sadykadie2 (Post 7900886)
Yeah, the whole Bronie thing. I don't even know where to put it in my brain. 'Course I'm a Trekkie, so there it is

Same place in your brain, basically. :)

The new cartoon was really quite good, with good writing and top voice talent and animation. My son was a bronie (though I think he has more or less outgrown it) and in fact my entire family went to a pony convention a couple years back, in Anaheim. A good time was had by all.

If it helps, you can link these two things in your brain using John de Lancie, who appeared in Star Trek as Q and also in My Little Pony as a character called Discord... which was directly inspired by Q. :haha:

OK, off-topic post over, sorry everyone!

Downtownkid Aug 24, 2017 2:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7901954)
I believe those are fake houses on the roof of the factory....''camouflage".

If that's the long beach plant there is no hill there. It would be camouflage. There were nets place over aircraft plants in Los Angeles during the war with fake houses on top of them.

YouTube on the camouflage on Lockheed's plant



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgFJKtznKMo

rick m Aug 24, 2017 2:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7901965)
:previous: Another great photograph! Thanks so much for sharing them with us Downtownkid.



A quick glimpse of the Long Beach Pike in under a minute.

Video Link



I saved a screengrab, or two.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/BxHA3h.jpg



At .46 seconds there's a little shack surrounded by an audience.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/7Na2zm.jpg

For the life of me I can not figure out what the people are watching. (it looks like two cans are hanging from string)

And written directly on the shack is " America's Greatest something or other."

Can anyone make out the third word?

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America's Greatest Institution For Learning-- nt too diff to suss out...

Flyingwedge Aug 24, 2017 3:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7901894)
"Douglas Aircraft Company workers bow in silent prayer during lunch, June 6, 1944." (D-Day)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/jzukIZ.jpg
http://framework.latimes.com/2014/06...os-angeles/#/7

I'm curious about the house on the hillside (in the distance, upper left)

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I don't know about the house, e_r, but some of the people in your photo may have seen the Los Angeles Times that day.

Grandpa Wedge saved this (also VJ Day). It was folded up for a long time, but now it's flattened out in a frame:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...k.jpg~original

FW Photo

Tikiman Aug 24, 2017 4:45 AM

The photo of Marilyn Monroe in the bathing suit was not taken at the Beverly Hills Hotel. It was taken at the home of Johnny Hyde on N. Palm drive in 1950.

Tikiman Aug 24, 2017 4:51 AM

My last was in regards to page 441. sorry.

MichaelRyerson Aug 24, 2017 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downtownkid (Post 7901959)
That's a nice Photo of the employees of Douglas Aircraft Co. and on D day no less.

https://preview.ibb.co/huFdmk/Castel...os_Angeles.jpg

Castelar Street School Los Angeles 1925. Rare photo of this school taken by my Pop. Negative from family photos -North Broadway Area.

Camera pointing west on Castelar Street. Building located on corner of Castelar St. and College St.- Address 508 College St.


https://preview.ibb.co/edQYK5/1921_J...D_GRADE_A3.jpg

Dad's report card from Castelar school in 1921.


Wow. Swell post. Thanks.

MichaelRyerson Aug 24, 2017 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downtownkid (Post 7900107)
I don't known anything about trees but maybe you can help me with a mystery of mind. I think this photo taken of my dad is on Ord and Broadway blvd camera facing west.
https://preview.ibb.co/gu1srk/Jose_P..._area_1925.jpg
I think that the hill in the background may be where the Robinson Mansion is at.

https://preview.ibb.co/inD0cQ/Jose_V...adway_1925.jpg
Here is a view of the same street in the opposite direction. the shadow are west east on both photos but taken at different time of day. Notice that there is no hill in this direction. and shadows do line up
https://preview.ibb.co/bTiYxQ/guy_ca..._area_1925.jpg
https://preview.ibb.co/c25fcQ/two_gu..._area_1925.jpg
other photos same views

But there is a pole in front of the market but not in the other photo so I got the street wrong.


Treasure trove. Thanks.

Martin Pal Aug 24, 2017 6:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7901965)
:previous: Another great photograph! Thanks so much for sharing them with us Downtownkid.

Yes, thank you Downtownkid, beautiful photo. And the date on your father's report card is the date of my Mom's birthday!

On the report card: "Manual Training." Wonder what that entailed?
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Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7901965)
A quick glimpse of the Long Beach Pike in under a minute.

Loved that short video, too, E_R. I made the mistake of looking at the comments, though. There's an awful lot of ugliness in the comments. Ugh.

Martin Pal Aug 24, 2017 6:30 PM

Also liked the Douglas Aircraft photo, E_R.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7902039)
I don't know about the house, e_r, but some of the people in your photo may have seen the Los Angeles Times that day.

Grandpa Wedge saved this (also VJ Day). It was folded up for a long time, but now it's flattened out in a frame:
FW Photo

I wouldn't mind seeing the VJ Day paper, too, FW, if possible!

oldstuff Aug 24, 2017 7:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7901946)
This 5 x 7 glass negative was listed on ebay several months ago.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/NFC9Xj.jpg

"Emmet M. Hicks Feed & Fuel Co., Gardena Calif. [no date]




Here's the positive image, enlarged. (sorry the top is cropped off)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/X3u3K0.jpg

There's no date, but I'd guess about 1900s(?)

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Emmet Mc Donald Hicks was born in California March of 1869. He appears in a 1914 directory as the owner of Gardena Feed and Fuel, which was located 736 W. 166th Street. It appears from Google maps that the location is no longer there. He and his wife Hattie had been living in Santa Barbara in 1900 where Emmet was listed as being a farmer.

in the 1920 census as the manager of a feed and fuel store in Los Angeles. The census indicates that he lived at 1910 w. 47th street with his wife Hattie and daughter Vera.

In a 1922 voter registration they appear , living at 522 N. Maryland. This was probably in Glendale and is no longer there. At that time, Emmet is listed as an independent salesman. He died in 1934 and is buried in Forest Lawn Glendale along with Hattie, who died in 1969.

odinthor Aug 24, 2017 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 7902672)
Emmet Mc Donald Hicks was born in California March of 1869. He appears in a 1914 directory as the owner of Gardena Feed and Fuel, which was located 736 W. 166th Street. It appears from Google maps that the location is no longer there. He and his wife Hattie had been living in Santa Barbara in 1900 where Emmet was listed as being a farmer.

in the 1920 census as the manager of a feed and fuel store in Los Angeles. The census indicates that he lived at 1910 w. 47th street with his wife Hattie and daughter Vera.

In a 1922 voter registration they appear , living at 522 N. Maryland. This was probably in Glendale and is no longer there. At that time, Emmet is listed as an independent salesman. He died in 1934 and is buried in Forest Lawn Glendale along with Hattie, who died in 1969.

Curiously enough, there's an Emma Hicks also born in California in 1869, the daughter of John D. Hicks, Angeleno tinware dealer and hardware man, perhaps best known for dealing out rope to customers desiring same during the Chinese Massacre. He had moved to Fresno by 1889.

GatoVerde Aug 25, 2017 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7901600)
Some look like Carrotwoods to me. I googled "Carrotwood Trees Boyle Ave". If you do the same, a link to a PDF from the City Clerk will come up detailing this project (at least I think it's the same project).

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9E...Q=w584-h121-no

"The affected street trees are
eight Silk Oak (Grevillea robusta), Eight Flame Trees (Brachychiton acerifolius), six Indian
Laurel Fig (Ficus microcarpa), six Carrotwood (Cupaniopsis anacardioides), five Brisbane
Box (Lophostemon confertus), and other various tree species. "

http://www.califaztlan.org/LANoirPics/workman1.jpg
http://www.califaztlan.org/wp-conten..._Trees_web.jpg

I just got word from a city official stating that the trees are not the same ones in the photo with Boyle, but that they are only 50-60 years old. The species identified is the Silk Oak (Grevillea robusta) which is a native of Australia.

I am still on the quest to try to find images of Boyle Avenue dating back to the 1950s or prior to confirm this.

GatoVerde Aug 25, 2017 1:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatoVerde (Post 7902926)

I just got word from a city official stating that the trees are not the same ones in the photo with Boyle, but that they are only 50-60 years old. The species identified is the Silk Oak (Grevillea robusta) which is a native of Australia.

I am still on the quest to try to find images of Boyle Avenue dating back to the 1950s or prior to confirm this.

Just to clarify, they are claiming that the trees in the 1900 photo appear conical in the image, while the Silk Oak species is clearly not conical. I am writing them back to ask them if they have any actual record of these trees as being planted in the 1950s, or if this is just speculation based on the photo I provided them.

Flyingwedge Aug 25, 2017 3:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatoVerde (Post 7902926)
http://www.califaztlan.org/LANoirPics/workman1.jpg
http://www.califaztlan.org/wp-conten..._Trees_web.jpg

I just got word from a city official stating that the trees are not the same ones in the photo with Boyle, but that they are only 50-60 years old. The species identified is the Silk Oak (Grevillea robusta) which is a native of Australia.

I am still on the quest to try to find images of Boyle Avenue dating back to the 1950s or prior to confirm this.


Here is Boyle Avenue from First to Fourth in 1941, 1960, and 1971. I hope these photos will be helpful to you, GatoVerde.

August 1, 1941 -- Boyle runs diagonally from lower left to upper right. First Street is at lower left, with Fourth at upper right:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...e.jpg~original

Flight c-7334_118 @ UCSB


May 1, 1960 -- Boyle runs parallel to and above the freeway:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...k.jpg~original

Flight c-23870_1658 @ UCSB


March 1, 1971:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...l.jpg~original

Flight tg-2755_17-41 @ UCSB


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