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CityBoyDoug Sep 7, 2014 12:33 AM


Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6719737)
4710 South Vermont Avenue from the newly published pictures at the Los Angeles City Historical Society. The description says:

City engineering photo of high water marks at 4710 South Vermont Avenue to demonstrate need for new ”Slauson” storm drain. Signs on Great Western Realty Office display large signs ”Sign here to protest Slauson Drain Section.” Smith and Sons Electrical Wiring Office at corner. Several hundred property owners in 1927 protesting an assessment district for construction of storm drain. Business men in front of building.
Los Angeles City Historical Society

4710 South Vermont Avenue today.

Is it just me, because I got kind of sad and depressed seeing the change in that building over the years....:(:(:(

ethereal_reality Sep 7, 2014 12:34 AM

:previous: It wasn't exactly the Taj Mahal in the earlier photograph.

re: The diminutive Liberty Hotel.

I stand corrected HossC. -but wouldn't you agree it's a bit odd?
I'm still trying to decipher the peaks & valleys on that roof. (thank god for shadows)

ethereal_reality Sep 7, 2014 1:23 AM


Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 6718734)

These screen-grabs are great gsjansen! Thanks for posting them/


ethereal_reality Sep 7, 2014 1:41 AM

Los Angeles Street from Third in 1918.

and today


FredH Sep 7, 2014 5:21 AM

The Liberty Theatre
Main Street at Third Street. Liberty Theatre, Gray Hotel, Harris Hardware Company - 09/24/1929

The Primrose Path (1925) starred Clara Bow

Adventures in the Far North (1923) was a travel documentary.

The New York Times had this to say:

"Although documentary filmmaker Captain F.E. Kleinschmidt got himself in quite a bit of hot water for
supporting the Germans during World War I, he continued making and releasing documentaries about
the frozen north into the 1920s. This entry, released by the Lee-Bradford Corporation, involves an
expedition which took the captain, his wife, and his crew from Seattle to the Yukon."

The sign on the Gray Hotel says "Building Coming Down"

This is from one of the new websites that So-Cal-Bear found

Godzilla Sep 7, 2014 12:39 PM

Macy Street Viaduct now known as Cesar Chavez Ave Viaduct. We have seen many views, but I don't recall a view of its construction.

October 1925 - Macy Street Viaduct

1933 - Macy Street Viaduct

More here: http://bigorangelandmarks.blogspot.c...e-viaduct.html

Godzilla Sep 7, 2014 1:10 PM


Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 6663781)
It's the Monterey Market! Upper far right.

6003 Olympic - discussed in this recent post:

'36 San Vicente-Fairfax-Olympic


May 8, 1931 - Fairfax and 10th (Olympic) (Looking east from Fairfax) before the Monterey market?


Godzilla Sep 7, 2014 1:28 PM


Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5899345)
E.L. Cord was connected with another Radio Station other than KFAC. Cord evidently acquired Station KFVD in '29 and moved it into the Ambassador- adjacent dealership at 3443 Wilshire. (Or alternatively, 645 S. Mariposa Street) The station has an interesting past as chronicled here:"]

LAPL has an interesting undated photo of what appears to be the KFVD station. What caught my attention is the address given: 5900 Wilshire Blvd.

Looking at the photo, it seems to be the same 3400 Wilshire Blvd. discussed earlier. "Cord" is listed as Carl. :uhh:

This appears to be the same building with the given address of 645 Mariposa Street. Later used by Atlantic Richfield and now occupied by the Indonesian Consulate.

Those palms lining Mariposa Street seem awfully familiar.

Aug 24, 1927. Mariposa Street Storm Drain. http://lacityhistory.pastperfect-onl...20Mariposa.JPGhttp://lacityhistory.pastperfect-onl...20Mariposa.JPG

The drain may have been effective at moving the "problem" elsewhere. :uhh:

Godzilla Sep 7, 2014 1:38 PM


Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5897743)

1938 - Wilshire and Alexandria

Opposing view.

Prominent in both photos is EL Cord's Auburn-Cord showroom/dealership housed in the Auburn-Fuller Bldg. at Mariposa and Wilshire - and his radio station KFAC KF "Auburn Cord." Yes, GW mentioned this here>

February 10, 1928 - Wilshire Christian Church and Gaylord Apts. (Wilshire's residential period. )

February '28. Reverse direction

February 1928 - Wilshire Boulevard Congregational Church

1928 - Wilshire and Vermont

CityBoyDoug Sep 7, 2014 2:55 PM

I'm really amazed at these old street photos. Traffic control must have had a rather low priority back in those days. There appears to be no painted white lines anywhere in sight.....:???::???::???:

HossC Sep 7, 2014 4:43 PM

Here are some more of the Los Angeles City Historical Society pictures mixed with some USC and GSV images. All the Historical Society pictures are dated as either October or December 1935. I've included the captions that came with the Historical Society pictures, although some of them don't seem all that accurate.

Carioca Cafe at intersection of Figueroa, Flower and Temple, Park Tract.
The earliest reference I could find for this business is Joe's New Carioca Cafe at 800 Temple in the 1942 CD. The 1936 CD has a restaurant owned by George Salazar at that address.
Los Angeles City Historical Society

The cafe is the narrow white building just right of center in this 1936 aerial. Also take not of the wedge-shaped building on the opposite side of Temple - I'll return to it below.
USC Digital Library

Kim’s Grocery Store, 260 Figueroa; General Merchandise Store of Bankrupt Stock, corner of intersection of Temple, Flower and Figueroa, Block O of Mott Tract.
This side of the building was actually on N Flower Street, not N Figueroa. The CDs list the address of Nora Kim's grocery store as 734 Temple.
Los Angeles City Historical Society

La Mexicana Shoe Shop, Kim’s Grocery Store, and apartments, corner of intersection of Temple and Flower, Block O of Mott Tract. 200 block of South Figueroa.
La Mexicana doesn't appear in the CDs. It must've been a trading name of shoe repairer Juan Garcia who is listed at 732 Temple. I can't read the sign on the left, but the CDs of this era list a couple of restaurants at 730 Temple.
Los Angeles City Historical Society

USC have this image of Temple Street looking east at the junction between Flower Street and Figueroa Street. They date it as circa 1930-1960, but it looks pretty close to the images above.
USC Digital Library

California Malt Supply Company, Montezuma Inn and Hotel Mindein, intersection of Figueroa, Flower, and Temple. Part of Park Tract.
I couldn't find any of these businesses in the CDs. I think the hotel is a typo, because I did find the Mindlin Hotel at 403 N Figueroa in 1927-1932 CDs. It seems to have become the Civic Center Hotel according to the 1936-42 CDs.
Los Angeles City Historical Society

Here's another 1936 aerial view from USC. The Mindlin is the wedge-shaped building I mentioned above.
USC Digital Library

The intersection has obviously changed considerably since the mid-1930s. Not only was Figueroa put into an underpass, but this section of N Flower disappeared when the DWP building was constructed. The aerial below is looking south, and I thought I recognized the outline of the gray building under the billboard just below the intersection. Could it be the first floor of the Mindlin Hotel?
Google Maps

Imagine how disappointed I was when I put my Google stick man across the road and found this.

There are so many things I hate about the new Google Maps. The only good feature is the ability to see historic Street View images (I always immediately switch back to the classic Google Maps when I've got the image I want). It looks like one story of the old hotel building survived until around 2012.

For more pictures of this intersection, check out post #801 by sopas ej which also quotes an earlier picture post by e_r.

ethereal_reality Sep 7, 2014 4:58 PM

:previous: -whoa, I didn't know the old hotel succumbed.

"Los Angeles followed Paris in 1911 with this trouser-skirt."



ethereal_reality Sep 7, 2014 5:01 PM

Santa Fe engine #3782 in Los Angeles.

ethereal_reality Sep 7, 2014 5:04 PM

Does anyone recognize this vantage point?



I held down control and spun the wheel on the mouse.

ethereal_reality Sep 7, 2014 7:02 PM

New Fireproof Building / Excellent Car Service
South 1720 Home 20782
Monterey Apartments
Two and Three Room Suites
All Outer Rooms
Steam Heat / Vacuum Sweeper
Private Baths / Hot Water
At All hours
3212 South Main Street
Los Angeles Cal

-The Monterey today


Godzilla Sep 7, 2014 7:05 PM

When does too much water pose a risk of shock?

March 2, 1938 - Franklin and Western Street Car. Looking west on Franklin from Bronson.

September 1919 - Eleventh and Flower Streets. "University" Before packing phone booths?

February 4, 1929 - "Vermont Avenue, looking northerly from near Sixth Street."

Same view as above, from Fourth and Vermont.

Rainbow Ballroom '31

February 4, 1929 - Another view of Vermont from Sixth Street

Godzilla Sep 7, 2014 9:14 PM

City Hall Construction and beyond. 1926-27 -28

December 1927

April 26, 1928

October '28 - East First Street viaduct in foreground

December '28 (cue the sleigh bells)

pwrof3 Sep 7, 2014 11:15 PM

Pacific Coast Club
I was down at the Long Beach Historical Society last Friday for their new exhibit. They have an amazing collection of postcards, photos, etc.
Anyway, I wander around a darkened, forgotten corner only to come face to face with this:

ALL PHOTOS BY ME by ryanrpalmer, on Flickr
What exactly is this? A piece of the entryway to the Pacific Coast Club in Long Beach. Very noirish quality. by ryanrpalmer, on Flickr by ryanrpalmer, on Flickr
Here is a picture of said entryway. by ryanrpalmer, on Flickr by ryanrpalmer, on Flickr

And then I walked further down this hallway and came across this beauty: by ryanrpalmer, on Flickr
A complete model of the exterior of the Pacific Coast Club!
What a beauty of a building. Such a shame it couldn't be saved. by ryanrpalmer, on Flickr by ryanrpalmer, on Flickr

I would love to see interiors. What an amazing building. And those turrets and entryway - very noir!

Ninja55 Sep 8, 2014 1:20 AM

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Ninja55 Sep 8, 2014 1:24 AM

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