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gebs Mar 29, 2018 8:04 PM

It's funny how easily One Bennett Park gets lost in those renderings.

Busy Bee Mar 29, 2018 9:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kumdogmillionaire (Post 8137185)
My favorite view will always be the one coming from the South no the Dan Ryan/I90, but I'm biased as that was my view whenever I would come back home from school. Regardless, those hypothetical renderings of the skyline in 5-6 years make me as excited as a fat kid left alone in a candy shop. Oh boyyyyyy here we come.

Agreed, northbound Dan Ryan has always been my favorite perspective ever since I was a little kid. Something about Sears just standing there in all it's dominance like some sort of mountain in the distance that feels like it takes forever to come close to. Plus I always loved seeing the wall of Robert Taylor/Stateway towers on the right that are no longer there, for better or worse.

Pioneer Mar 29, 2018 9:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 8137027)
I’m a transit fan too, but that diagonal angle is the best...

http://assets.diningchicago.com/medi...jpg?1484505943

That's a decent view, but need to let the photo expand to include Hancock (ahem) and N. Michigan Ave. However, a 1300 footer would be nice from that (and frankly any) angle

Best view: from Adler; Worst view: From the SW

Rooster slayer Mar 30, 2018 12:02 AM

Can't wait to see the vitals on this.

NYer34 Mar 30, 2018 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bombardier (Post 8135655)
^^ Not BIG. Think local, and recognizable for this type of job.

Jahn?

Bombardier Mar 30, 2018 12:30 AM

^Not Jahn

The name has already been provided by the sleuths on this board!

HomrQT Mar 30, 2018 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bombardier (Post 8137692)
^Not Jahn

The name has already been provided by the sleuths on this board!

What a tease. :)

rgarri4 Mar 30, 2018 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 8137027)
I’m a transit fan too, but that diagonal angle is the best...

http://assets.diningchicago.com/medi...jpg?1484505943

"That's a decent view, but need to let the photo expand to include Hancock (ahem) and N. Michigan Ave. However, a 1300 footer would be nice from that (and frankly any) angle"

https://images2.imgbox.com/95/fe/8d9dIOjC_o.jpg

NYer34 Mar 30, 2018 2:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bombardier (Post 8137692)
^Not Jahn

The name has already been provided by the sleuths on this board!

A 'sleuth' did say 'Juan,' but it wasn't clear to me who that was :rolleyes:

rlw777 Mar 30, 2018 1:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NYer34 (Post 8137804)
A 'sleuth' did say 'Juan,' but it wasn't clear to me who that was :rolleyes:

I believe that's a reference to JGMA. JGMA does nice work but I find it highly unlikely that JGMA was picked to design a supertall residential tower given their portfolio of work.

aaron38 Mar 30, 2018 5:07 PM

My view from the west-southwest is getting really crowded in that part of the skyline. Given where OBP is relative to Trump Tower, this may be directly behind it and I won’t even see it.
I’ll have a better feel when Vista pops up.

prageethSL Mar 31, 2018 4:44 AM

Will they use existing foundation for the new building?.

The Lurker Mar 31, 2018 9:39 AM

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Originally Posted by prageethSL (Post 8138797)
Will they use existing foundation for the new building?.

I'm not one to make assumptions but yeah, I think so.

toddguy Mar 31, 2018 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kumdogmillionaire (Post 8136532)
You saved me from typing out my exact thought. If it's taller than Sears then I'll be ecstatic, but I'd take a couple well designed true supertalls over one big sky penis.

There are plenty of other cities that would beg to have the big sky penis!!!

I hope it gets built somewhere if not Chicago.

harryc Mar 31, 2018 4:41 PM

A reminder - from 2007

Not sure who did this diagram - note that the thick line around the entire site represents a 70'+ deep wall - part secant and part slurry.
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/893/2...07f65c89_b.jpg

This one is mine
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/871/2...e50d6dc1_b.jpg



ChiPlanner Apr 12, 2018 4:10 PM

There were people out scoping the property yesterday. One of them looked like/was possibly Curt Bailey of Related.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-0...ew?usp=sharing

Jibba Apr 12, 2018 4:17 PM

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Originally Posted by harryc (Post 8139036)
A reminder - from 2007

Very cool, thanks for posting. I'm eager to see what they utilize from what's there and what adaptations they make otherwise.

And that last photograph is art!

harryc Apr 15, 2018 11:57 PM

April 13


230Roberto Apr 16, 2018 1:35 AM

Thanks for curing everybody's depression.

HomrQT Apr 16, 2018 2:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 230Roberto (Post 8155756)
Thanks for curing everybody's depression.

Seriously Harry, you could have at least increased the contrast on the photo so details would show better... :yuck::yuck:

Kumdogmillionaire Apr 16, 2018 4:56 AM

It is actually kind of beautiful in a messed up way how the rest of the downtown area has thrived lately, but this site has remained a graveyard. Amazing juxtaposition that will be gone soon enough (fingers crossed)

BVictor1 Apr 17, 2018 1:31 AM

Skidmore (New York)

Or so I just heard...

Tom In Chicago Apr 17, 2018 1:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 8157064)
Skidmore (New York)

Oh dear. . .

. . .

BraveNewWorld Apr 17, 2018 6:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 8157064)
Skidmore (New York)

Or so I just heard...

SOM is designing this? They might be replacing the Sears Tower with another one of their building's as the new tallest.

AMWChicago Apr 17, 2018 7:16 AM

Where did you hear this?

Steely Dan Apr 17, 2018 1:37 PM

SOM new york?

hmmmm, i was hoping for something more...... exotic.

but it is related, so that was probably a hope in vain.

oh well.

BVictor1 Apr 17, 2018 1:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMWChicago (Post 8157423)
Where did you hear this?

My drug dealer...

gebs Apr 17, 2018 1:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 8157536)
My drug dealer...

Where "drug" means "insider architecture info"? Because I think we're all addicted.

Skyguy_7 Apr 17, 2018 2:10 PM

What are some of SOM New York's projects? Do they differ from traditional SOM? Are they a separate entity from SOM HQ here in Chicago?

HomrQT Apr 17, 2018 2:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyguy_7 (Post 8157567)
What are some of SOM New York's projects? Do they differ from traditional SOM? Are they a separate entity from SOM HQ here in Chicago?

Most of their older projects look very formal and "Chicago-esque". Some of their newer proposals seem to have a little more artistic expression.

rgolch Apr 17, 2018 6:05 PM

So, help out the uninformed and uninitiated.....

Why is SOM New York a bummer?

munchymunch Apr 17, 2018 6:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rgolch (Post 8157934)
So, help out the uninformed and uninitiated.....

Why is SOM New York a bummer?

It’s not, but something by SHoP, BIG, Zaha etc. would’ve been nice.

Skyguy_7 Apr 17, 2018 6:35 PM

If SOM uses a SHoP-inspired Terra Cotta and Bronze combo, I will be unbummed.

sentinel Apr 17, 2018 6:46 PM

Uh, short-term memory loss or lack of knowledge seemingly pervade some of these threads: SOM New York does some really great work, especially on the high-rise side. No idea why folks think their design abilities are lacking, considering they are on the same level as SHoP, Zaha, etc., and frankly, laid the groundwork for smaller, high-concept design firms such as the aforementioned..

https://www.som.com/expertise/services/tall_buildings

Skyguy_7 Apr 17, 2018 7:57 PM

^ My question essentially was "Does the SOM NYC office produce different designs than their Chicago HQ". Their website claims the JHC and Sears Tower designs, so it appears that they're one entity.

2PRUROCKS! Apr 18, 2018 1:05 AM

Maybe someone here can refresh my memory. I seem to recall reading in this thread, perhaps it was a poster with insider info or an article about Related Midwest projects, that RM was having a private design competition for this project with 3 firms and also they had at some point asked David Childs to consult or advise on this project. It would seem they were doing more than seeking his advise but giving him a commission.

Anyhow I think some of the dislike for SOM NY is from how 1WTC and 7WTC turned out. They weren't disasters but disappointments to many people's expectations. A lot of the projects shown on the SOM website are not only from the NY office but include Chicago and San Fran.

Steely Dan Apr 19, 2018 12:13 AM

* off topic posts deleted *

If you guys want to discuss the merits of one world trade center, there's a thread somewhere on this forum to do so.

Steely Dan Apr 19, 2018 3:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 2PRUROCKS! (Post 8158517)
Maybe someone here can refresh my memory. I seem to recall reading in this thread, perhaps it was a poster with insider info or an article about Related Midwest projects, that RM was having a private design competition for this project with 3 firms and also they had at some point asked David Childs to consult or advise on this project. It would seem they were doing more than seeking his advise but giving him a commission.

or perhaps whoever told Bvic that SOM new york was the architect for the project simply misunderstood their role in the process?

BVictor1 Apr 19, 2018 5:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 8160345)
or perhaps whoever told Bvic that SOM new york was the architect for the project simply misunderstood their role in the process?

Or was a part of one of the non-winning firms...:D

Tom In Chicago Apr 19, 2018 7:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 8160622)
Or was a part of one of the non-winning firms...:D

Now you're just being cryptic. . . :cool:

. . .

harryc Apr 20, 2018 1:39 AM

10 yrs ago
 

Citizen Apr 20, 2018 6:14 AM

One hell of a post, harryc. ;-)

HomrQT Apr 20, 2018 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by harryc (Post 8161329)
Trump This

That's funny. Would have been funnier if they finished the building... =)

Skyguy_7 Apr 20, 2018 5:42 PM

^Ha ha. I was gonna say.. Trump did Trump that. He actually finished his tower.

harryc Apr 21, 2018 8:41 PM

Meanwhile in Germany ....
 

Akovt on Flickr

BVictor1 Apr 21, 2018 9:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyguy_7 (Post 8162125)
^Ha ha. I was gonna say.. Trump did Trump that. He actually finished his tower.

And still can't fill the retail a decade later...

Kumdogmillionaire Apr 21, 2018 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 8163282)
And still can't fill the retail a decade later...

Tax benefits

Fvn Apr 22, 2018 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by harryc (Post 8163258)

Lol that's actually genius

BVictor1 May 4, 2018 9:44 PM

May 15th Community Meeting

Sheaton Hotel

6-8

Steely Dan May 4, 2018 9:51 PM

ABOUT TIME!

:cheers:


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