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gsjansen Apr 27, 2011 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Los Angeles Past (Post 5256655)
:)

BTW, wasn't that very near a big early oilfield? I seem to recall a nearby hillside there being thickly populated by oil derricks around the turn of the last century...

1906 los angeles oil fields map of the wells just west of downtown. filled in circles represent producing wells, non filled circles represent non-producing wells.

(once again i have to apologize for the right scrolling required to see the full extent of the image, but i believe it is well worth the trouble!)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5110/...976d419c_o.jpg
Source: Library of Congress

gsjansen Apr 27, 2011 12:56 PM

some images of the oil wells on court street

1901

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...4/CHS-851?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive

oil wells at court street and toluca street 1904 (toluca street is the street just west of kern street on the 1906 oil fields map)

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-1276?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive


Photograph of Edward L. Doheny at the site dedication ceremony for his discovery oil, 1930.

Doheny, wearing a straw hat, waving, and standing under a tall triangular wooden scaffold or derrick, discovered oil in 1892 near Second Street and Glendale Boulevard (south side of Court Street, east of Patton, 2½ blocks east of Glendale Boulevard).

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-4887?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive

1910 image of oil wells at court and toluca

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-3686?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive

GaylordWilshire Apr 27, 2011 12:59 PM

Court Circle cont'd
 
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_d...81048%20AM.jpg
The Hill and the circle, 1891


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_d...84040%20AM.jpg
The circle was very convenient to the PE and LARy in 1906


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_d...81654%20AM.jpg
1909


All images historicmapworks.com

gsjansen Apr 27, 2011 5:20 PM

Presenting GSJ's nomination for the inaugural Noirish Los Angeles Darwinian Award


the railcar! 1958

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...342-006~1?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive

have fun guys!

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...342-006~2?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive


(what could possibly go wrong?)

malumot Apr 27, 2011 6:52 PM

Tax dollars + idiot educrats = bad things happen
 
Actually the true Darwin awards go to the LAUSD, who were shocked! when methane was discovered on the site of Roybal, and spent hundred of millions in remediation.

Meanwhile, a couple hours spent parsing through some old photos could have provided an inkling.

As to the derricks......can you imagine how many guys fell off those things? Especially Doheny's early tripod model.

GaylordWilshire Apr 27, 2011 7:20 PM

Re PE's railcar
 
Rail inspection cars such as PE's '57 Pontiac are still in use. While sturdy medium-priced sedans and wagons such as Pontiacs, Buicks, and Chryslers were once popular for conversion, SUVs or 4-door pickups are the vehicles most often seen with Hy-Rail equipment today.


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_d...31115%20PM.jpgAACA
OK, it's not on rails at the moment, but it can if it wants to...

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_d...23041%20PM.jpgAACA
The fender emblem on another Hy-Rail '57 Pontiac

gsjansen Apr 27, 2011 7:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malumot (Post 5257373)
Actually the true Darwin awards go to the LAUSD, who were shocked! when methane was discovered on the site of Roybal, and spent hundred of millions in remediation.

shocking photograph of oil derricks on the belmont school property

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics36/00037767.jpg
Source: LAPL

another shocking photograph of a still operational well at the location of the Roybal Learning center the year it was approved 1988

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00075/00075037.jpg
Source: LAPL

you mean there's methane gas here?.............shocking...................


GW, i know that there is a use for non-rolling stock vehicles on rails, i was amused that the occupants of the pontiac were dressed in non-railworkers clothing, and appeared to be out for a joy ride on the rails...............(hey bill there's a train coming right towards us.............don't worry john, i'm bettin' he's gonna swerve first............)

GaylordWilshire Apr 27, 2011 7:50 PM

:previous:

Looks to me like it's the front-office execs out for an inspection tour. No striped overalls for them!

OldFontuckyHomer Apr 28, 2011 1:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5257265)
Presenting GSJ's nomination for the inaugural Noirish Los Angeles Darwinian Award


the railcar! 1958

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...342-006~1?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive

have fun guys!

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...342-006~2?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive


(what could possibly go wrong?)

Now post the "after" photo.

gsjansen Apr 28, 2011 1:55 AM

:previous:

okey dokey!

Car versus freight train at Jefferson Boulevard and La Brea Avenue, 1958

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...280-033~1?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive

Auto vs train Avenue 57 and Marmion Way, 1957

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...078-001~1?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive


Auto versus train Reseda Boulevard and Parthenia Street, Northridge, 1952

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...508-019~1?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive


Train vs. auto in crossing accident at 25th and Alameda, 1951

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...166-010~1?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive

ethereal_reality Apr 28, 2011 5:07 AM

Broadway tunnel looking north from Temple, circa 1949.

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/3...ytunnelloo.jpg
uscdl

Why is it blocked off?


_________

ethereal_reality Apr 28, 2011 5:13 AM

Figueroa & First Street. (possibly a repeat...but this area is so interesting I decided to post them anyway.)

http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/4...illfiguero.jpg
uscdl



http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/1...illnodaten.jpg
uscdl

JDRCRASH Apr 28, 2011 5:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5257427)
another shocking photograph of a still operational well at the location of the Roybal Learning center the year it was approved 1988

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00075/00075037.jpg
Source: LAPL

I don't mean to get all factual on you, but are you sure that's 1988? US Bank was completed in 1989-90. :D

ethereal_reality Apr 28, 2011 5:30 AM

An interesting ad for the Hotel Lillie.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7...llielarger.jpg
ebay

ethereal_reality Apr 28, 2011 6:34 AM

The tri-wheeled Davis Motorcar in Los Angeles, 1947.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/859...torcar1947.jpg
Allen Grant for LIFE




http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/547...torcarklin.png
klingbergauto

Does anyone have more info on this intriguing streamline modern car?

ethereal_reality Apr 28, 2011 7:00 AM

The Regal Hotel at 815 E. 6th Street.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1221/la0418regal.jpg
postcard/ebay


below: The Regal Hotel today.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/6...regaltoday.jpg
google street view



http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/2...egaltoday1.jpg
google street view

_____________:(

gsjansen Apr 28, 2011 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDRCRASH (Post 5258277)
I don't mean to get all factual on you, but are you sure that's 1988? US Bank was completed in 1989-90. :D

i had questioned the date as well, but that is the date given for the photograph on the Los Angeles Public Library's Web Site

the photograph is probably closer to sometime in the mid 90's prior to work getting under way for the doomed original belmont learning center facility.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5258264)
Broadway tunnel looking north from Temple, circa 1949.

Why is it blocked off?

broadway, and the rail tracks have been rerouted to the east around the tunnel in preparation of this............

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2776/...5b76b23d_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4023/...d0c2905e_o.jpg

GaylordWilshire Apr 28, 2011 12:02 PM

Where's the sparking pole?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5258316)
The tri-wheeled Davis Motorcar in Los Angeles, 1947.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/859...torcar1947.jpg
Allen Grant for LIFE


Does anyone have more info on this intriguing streamline modern car?


ethereal: The Davis was L.A. born and bred--built right here in Van Nuys:
http://www.suarezweb.com/davis/pix/histfoto05.jpg


No, seriously--the car was literally the precursor of Dodgem bumper cars:

http://geezermusicclub.files.wordpre...pg?w=280&h=261Geezer Music Club



There's even a little stint in Castaic to add a bit of noir. Full story here: http://www.suarezweb.com/davis/davishst.htm

More pics: http://www.suarezweb.com/davis/davismen.htm and http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=308750

gsjansen Apr 28, 2011 4:37 PM

a very interesting survey of fort moore hill 1885 prior to the school building being relocated to this location

cemetery avenue became the northern extension of hill street

sand street would become california street

philadelphia street would become the northern extension of grand avenue

and canal, reservoir, short street would be incorporated into sunset boulevard

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5221/...29f1c9fb_b.jpg
Source: LAPL Visual Collections

GaylordWilshire Apr 28, 2011 7:28 PM

Then and now
 
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_d...21236%20PM.jpgLos Angeles Times
An ad in the Times, May 16, 1926

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_d...21139%20PM.jpgGoogle Street View


For more info, click here: Historic Los Angeles


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