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CityBoyDoug May 30, 2014 7:00 PM

Underground noir dating in the 1940s.
 
Underground Pacific Electric hangout location to have a beer and meet new friends. Appears to be very popular.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psca333860.jpg
PE

Martin Pal May 30, 2014 7:48 PM

In the past day or two there's been a lot of train photos posted, so I thought I'd post this one I've had in a file. I don't know where it came from. I know there was a "City of Los Angeles" train that ran, in fact, if I'm remembering correctly, it's the train used in the I Love Lucy episodes when they returned from Hollywood. Perhaps not, but I'm guessing this photo is probably a set.


ethereal_reality May 30, 2014 8:27 PM

Martin_Pal, I believe that's a real train and the photo was taken in Chicago. (for publicity)
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Hmmmmm... I don't believe that's the mountain I was thinking about HossC. It was something much more grand
(like the mountain in the Whittier Boulevard photo).

ethereal_reality May 30, 2014 9:39 PM

Martin_Pal, here's a 'City of Los Angeles' menu from 1945.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/843/e4zij.jpg
ebay

ethereal_reality May 30, 2014 10:02 PM

Nice scan of triple tunnel.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/842/kpf9s.jpg
ebay


today. -missing hanging lanterns
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102.../842/vec3t.jpg
GSV



from the spot that used to hold a hanging lantern there's a bracket holding a wire of some sort.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/838/83jg.jpg
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GaylordWilshire May 30, 2014 10:22 PM

It could have been a restaurant, or an amusement park, an ice rink...but not surprisingly, it was a real estate promotion...


Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6599033)
Photos taken from the intersection of Via Clemente Street and Whittier Boulevard, East Los Angeles in 1929.
..and speaking of plaster cast. :)
In the second photograph I was surprised to see a Matterhorn shaped 'mountain' in the distance.

photo #2
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/836/wt3sf.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/473/rec/144

I vaguely recall a discussion about this 'mountain' in the earlier days of NLA, but was unable to locate the posts.


Here's a closer view. Pretty cool isn't it.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/843/9qpdw.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/473/rec/144__


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-O...2520PM.bmp.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-E...2520PM.bmp.jpg
LAT May 15, 1927/Univ of Arizona Library


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-B...2520PM.bmp.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q...2520PM.bmp.jpg
LAT May 29, 1927

ethereal_reality May 30, 2014 10:37 PM

:previous: Excellent find GW. Thanks for solving the mystery of the mountain.


Since we've recently had several exceptional posts on Venice CA. I thought I'd go ahead and post this idyllic snapshot dated 1910.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/845/a3ce.jpg
ebay

ethereal_reality May 30, 2014 11:09 PM

When I came across this slide a few days ago on ebay, I thought I had found Anna May Wong's elusive tree.

1970s
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/844/x4va.jpg


...alas, I don't think it's the same tree...it isn't weepy enough.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal1954 (Post 6085590)
New Chinatown Los Angeles 1938
http://i50.tinypic.com/2im553t.jpg
Tumblr.com

Anna May and her tree.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13868

and here (great photograph)
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13876
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CityBoyDoug May 31, 2014 3:38 AM

The ''value" of money....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6599590)
Martin_Pal, here's a 'City of Los Angeles' menu from 1945.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/843/e4zij.jpg
ebay

That $1.75 meal on the train in 1945 would be about $13.00 in 2014 money.

Ref:http://www.dollartimes.com/inflation...nt=1&year=1945


ABBA.....Money, Money, Money
http://youtu.be/uP0sC_s5EfE

GW...thanks a mountain for the answer ....!!!

ER....cool photo from 1910....!!!!

HossC May 31, 2014 10:16 AM

To combine two recent topics of Venice railways and fake mountains, here's the L.A. Thompson Scenic Railway. It was located next to Venice Pier, and ran from 1910 to 1919. From an article on www.westland.net:

"When the ride was first built, it had elaborate mountain scenery. A brakeman applied the brakes on the turns. In 1913 it was remodeled and the size of its dips were increased. The scenery was removed and a modern entrance facade on Ocean Front Walk was incorporated."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...icRailway1.jpg
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...icRailway2.jpg
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...icRailway3.jpg
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...icRailway4.jpg
All postcards from eBay.

There's an article about Lamarcus Adna Thompson, "the father of the themed roller coaster" on www.themeparkinsider.com. It includes a modern video of L.A. Thompson's 1912 Scenic Railway at Luna Park in Melbourne, Australia, which claims it's "the only roller-coaster operating from this period, and has the only brakeman-operated carriages in the World". Although most of the scenery was removed years ago, it gives an idea of what the ride in Venice would've been like.

Direct YouTube link: TAKE A RIDE LIKE NO OTHER ... Scenic Railway, Luna Park, Melbourne Australia

ethereal_reality May 31, 2014 12:24 PM

:previous: That video was fun, especially with the music. During the ride, I like how he switched to a night-time view
when he came to the two 'cupolas' to show how they are illuminated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6599918)
[SIZE="3"]That $1.75 meal on the train in 1945 would be about $13.00 in 2014 money.

That's interesting CBD...more expensive than I imagined.
I liked your photos of the hootenanny and the transit bar.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/842/6fuiv.jpg
originally posted by CBD

I see the now familiar Eastside Beer sign (they were ubiquitous in L.A. back then), but this one looks like it says something other than beer.
It almost looks like it says juice.
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ethereal_reality May 31, 2014 1:02 PM

1935
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/837/i1m6.jpgebay
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/842/nigu7.jpg

I guess they didn't have a hootenanny.
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Martin Pal May 31, 2014 5:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6599590)
...here's a 'City of Los Angeles' menu from 1945.

I enjoyed that, E_R!

From the menu:

"Prices Shown Subject to Sales Tax in States Where Applicable."

This line on the menu got me wondering...how did that work? If you decided to
eat your meal traveling through Nebraska you might be subject to sales tax?
Did it apply when you ordered or when you were finished and paid the bill?


:shrug:

"Let's have another cup of coffee, Edna, we'll be in Colorado soon."

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6600103)
I see the now familiar Eastside Beer sign (they were ubiquitous in L.A. back then), but this one looks like it says something other than beer.
It almost looks like it says juice.
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I think it says "on ice."

CityBoyDoug May 31, 2014 5:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6600284)
I enjoyed that, E_R!

From the menu:

"Prices Shown Subject to Sales Tax in States Where Applicable."

This line on the menu got me wondering...how did that work? If you decided to
eat your meal traveling through Nebraska you might be subject to sales tax?
Did it apply when you ordered or when you were finished and paid the bill?


:shrug:

"Let's have another cup of coffee, Edna, we'll be in Colorado soon."

_____________



I think it says "on ice."

"That's the last time I'll order a meal on this train while we're in Nebraska. I always knew those Corn-huskers were money grubbers. Who wants to pay a huge tax on some Roast Prime Beef, Au Jus. Phooey on them."

FredH May 31, 2014 7:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6599692)
When I came across this slide a few days ago on ebay, I thought I had found Anna May Wong's elusive tree.

1970s
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/844/x4va.jpg


...alas, I don't think it's the same tree...it isn't weepy enough.



Ann May and her tree.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13868

and here (great photograph)
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13876
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ER - I believe your photo was taken out by the Chinatown entrance on N. Broadway.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps9cdcf7ec.jpg
Google Street View

Anna May Wong's tree was between the wishing pool and what is now Hop Louie's Restaurant. I believe that may be the tree in this photo.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps02eae2e0.jpg
http;familyofhummers.ripod.com

Of course, her tree has been replaced by this wonderful souvenir shop.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...psab20e0a9.jpg
My Photo

jg6544 May 31, 2014 7:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6599456)
In the past day or two there's been a lot of train photos posted, so I thought I'd post this one I've had in a file. I don't know where it came from. I know there was a "City of Los Angeles" train that ran, in fact, if I'm remembering correctly, it's the train used in the I Love Lucy episodes when they returned from Hollywood. Perhaps not, but I'm guessing this photo is probably a set.


The "City of Los Angeles" was a Union Pacific streamliner running between Chicago and L. A. It was the principal competition for Santa Fe's "Chief" and "Super Chief". And, yes, Lucy did take the train when they moved from Hollywood back to New York; she kept tripping the emergency break for some reason or other.

FredH Jun 1, 2014 2:56 AM

May 17, 1957 - Looking east on 2nd Street from Grand Avenue, right to left: 512 and 508 West 2nd Street; the Mission Apartments at 201 South Olive Street; the Claridge AKA Mansfield at 428 West 2nd Street; and the large structure is the Hotel Northern at Clay Street.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps862cd199.jpg
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...d/8482/rec/817

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps7ee56e69.jpg
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...d/8482/rec/817

Top of 2nd Street tunnel

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...psd25174c9.jpg
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...d/8482/rec/817

GaylordWilshire Jun 1, 2014 12:14 PM

:previous:


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-e...2520AM.bmp.jpghttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-J...2520AM.bmp.jpg
Article: LAT Dec 27, 1956


A good reminder of a famous drive always worth looking at again...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-I2kLNwBak


I was also reminded of the disappearance of the Union League/Fashion League building, bought by the state of Calif ca. 1948... Looks like it was demolished four months or so before your Huntington shots, FredH.

Here's a great post of Beaudry's (from four years and four days ago) with pictures of the area:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1393


Another HDL shot, this one date Feb 25, 1957, showing the Fashion League Building coming down...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-g...2520AM.bmp.jpgHDL

gdunn2 Jun 1, 2014 4:42 PM

from the spot that used to hold a hanging lantern there's a bracket holding a wire of some sort.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/838/83jg.jpg
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I remember as a child ridding through those tunnels. The wire may be a leftover element of a onetime project to bring radio reception inside of the tunnels. I remember being interested in this project as a child. I later went on to be a broadcast engineer so the interest stuck. I would say this project was done between 1959 to maybe 1962? It was billed to the public as a safety issue. One could not hear the traffic reports on the AM car radios when inside of the tunnels. I remember having my Dad test this new innovation shortly after it was implemented. I recall being disappointed as it did nothing for the reception for our car radio.

I do remember the hanging lights along side of the tunnels. I also recall that the lighting was improved within the tunnels during the mid fifties. At one time there was a single light fixture spaced about every 20 at the crest of the bore. Those fixtures were removed and two rows of fluorescent lights were added at about the ten and two o'clock positions at the top of the bore.

Why I remember these things I don't really know, yet many times I can't remember where I put down my car keys!

Gary Dunn
Lind, WA.

Tourmaline Jun 1, 2014 5:57 PM

Orson Welles had an undeniable Los Angeles presence and a considerable participation in celluloid noir. He was associated with several Hollywood notables mentioned in NLA, e.g., Rita Hayworth and Delores Del Rio. Had a lengthy "spat" with a publisher named Hearst, who has also received NLA attention. Orson probably knew the inside of most eateries featured in NLA and then there are the stories about his passion for Pink's on La Brea that may have contributed to his demise in '85.

FWIW, here are a couple of photos circa 1940 of Orson's office. The source provides minimal information, but because the photos are categorized as part of "homes and haunts" this may be a residential office. Since a residential ceiling sprinkler system is uncommon, this is more likely in a hotel or other commercial setting, e.g., studio digs. Bear in mind that C.Kane was not released until '41.

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...N6BY9BP374.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...N6BY9BP374.jpg

Susan Alexander? :uhh:
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...B4H16ACJKA.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...B4H16ACJKA.jpg

Orson and Rita
http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enha...64934917-1.jpghttp://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enha...64934917-1.jpg





Quote:

May 6, 1943: Orson Welles leaves his Army physical after being rejected for military service and given a 4-F draft status. Welles was facing public criticism for not entering military service during World War II.

The next morning, the Los Angeles Times reported:

Orson Welles, even in his bare pelt as he was yesterday for an uncomfortable hour, is a mercurial young man.

He’s also 4-F in the draft because, at the end of his period of nakedness in the presence of Army sawbones at the induction station in the Pacific Electric Building, he was rejected for military service.

......................................................................................................

Orson Welles was publicly hounded to enlist by the powerful Hearst newspapers, still angered by his production of “Citizen Kane,” clearly based on a thinly veiled portrayal of media mogul William Randolph Hearst. At his physical, he is classified 4-F, unfit for military service because of a variety of medical ailments.

Full story here: http://framework.latimes.com/2011/09...ected-by-army/




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