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This amateur slide (dated 1951) is currently listed on eBay

Seller's description:.."Hollywood Los Angeles Nth from Sunset to Dower 35mm slide 1951" ..(the seller no doubt meant Gower, not Dower)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/gm0ayG.jpg
eBay


What makes it especially interesting is that we have seen this exact same view earlier in the thread.

Go HERE.

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Going out on a limb in trying to read license plates, I'll say 1940 and wait for corrections, e_r.

At 4901 Telegraph Road in East LA will be found this unprepossessing structure:

https://i.postimg.cc/pXRKS9JQ/Grindall-4901-Tele.jpg
gsv

This view is from a few years ago; but I chose it rather than the current one because it still shows "Grindall Co."

Circa 1978, I had occasion to zoom past this building on the freeway every day I went to work. I looked forward to it, because at that time, it sported, with the company's name, a vivid and beautiful painted representation of a circular saw throwing off sparks. Some years later, it was repainted with much the same picture, but done with less skill; and ultimately, as we see, the picture disappeared altogether, and now in 2022 the company itself is gone.

In 1978-1979, I had every intention of stopping some day and taking a photo of that impressive wall-sign, just for memory's sake; but somehow, and regrettably, I never got around to it. And so I post this in the hope that, by some remarkable chance, someone else has a picture--or at least a fond memory--of this.

:cheers:

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I tried my darndest to find the circular saw giving off sparks, odinthor, but my quest ended in failure.

I did find out that the Grindall Co. occupied a similar building one block away.

This building.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/HMUYU1.jpg
GSV


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/Xp8ZBJ.jpg
LAPL



4843 is on the left. . .4901 is on the right.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/N1cOP9.jpg

Of course this is neither here nor there in terms of the missing sign.


The closest I came to a circular saw in motion was this ad. (no sparks)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/CFkAuP.jpg


It's not the Grindall Co. but it's located in Los Angeles. (does that count? :))

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re:..NAPLES RESTAURANT & BAR


Here's a closer look at the right side of the 1951 Gower Street photograph.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/dnZUQ1.jpg
detail

See that yellowish area on the front of the Naples addition. :previous:




It turns out it is an artist's palette!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/JCD50U.jpg
exlibrisgroup

Free appetizer of fried calamari for anyone who can correctly count the Chianti bottles.





Let's take a look at the bar area.

I've made an attempt to name the people in the photographs.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/VYNP7Q.jpg

Can anyone fill in the blanks? (or correct my mistakes / if any)




https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/qKNIef.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/PuVjOG.jpg
eBay



Lastly, here's a look at the right side of the 1940s photo before the Naples addition was built in front of the house.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/AKhwHf.jpg
detail



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The mustache belongs to Jerry Colonna. I found that very portrait photo on Google Images, but I can't post it.

Isn't the Hollywood Presbyterian Church in the background on or near Highland? Could this photo be looking north on Highland, or is the street too narrow to be Highland? Highland must be very close, probably to the right.

Looking at the Hollywood sign, I can almost make out the scar where "land" was until just a few years earlier. Didn't they remove "land" in the late 40s?

Agree. Appears to be Colonna, Bob Hope's sidekick for years back then.

Like ethereal says, Danny Thomas is about 3 photos to the right of Jimmy Durante, and just to the left of Collona with the lady in between? Who is the lady? My wild guess would be Mary Astor, but probably not. She has a Mary Astor hairdo. Could she be the actress who played D. Thomas's wife in "Make Room For Daddy", later called "The Danny Thomas Show", hence the photo proximity? Wikipedia says Jean Hagan played his wife in the first few years, followed by Marjorie Lord. The photo is pretty fuzzy. I don't think it is Hagan, well known for her roles in "The Asphalt Jungle" and the silent star in "Singing in the Rain", who can't do dialogue, who makes Debbie Reynolds dubb her singing. So, could the photo to the right of Thomas be Marjorie Lord?

The Naples Restaurant and Cocktail Lounge survived the demolition of it's old home in 1965 by moving next door to 1514 Gower.

Here it is in it's new place later that same year as seen on an Ed Ruscha drive-by shot.


https://i.imgur.com/e9HprAB.jpg
getty.edu

Anyone?

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You need to use the emoji with the whip...Works every time.

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Abandoned Street Lights Telegraph Rd. East Los Angeles
 

Not sure if its been discussed but also of interest along this stretch of Telegraph Rd. is a long row of abandoned Street lamps. Does anyone by chance know more on how long they've been like that?

I recognized him, too. Interesting that three of us recognized the photo where only half or so of it is showing!

https://www.historyforsale.com/produ...ils/280508.jpg

Lwize, I'm not a whiz at getting aerials; but just to get us started, the earliest one I find is after the streets (Spring, gobbling up a stretch of poor little New High) had already been realigned, 1948 (likely you've already seen this):

https://i.postimg.cc/dQ4Tss2Y/Hall-R...st-Aerials.jpg
historicaerials.com, as subtly hinted in the image

City Hall at lower right.

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Whip or no whip, here you go, Lwize. :)


"The Hall of Records acquired its most distinctive quirk in the 1920s. As the image below shows, the building originally stood flush against New High Street. But when the city untangled the maze of streets that once navigated the Civic Center area, it left the Hall of Records standing at an off-angle relative to the new, straightened grid."*

BEFORE
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/ZomrFl.jpg
gsjansen / W&P




"That odd stance became a liability in the 1960s, as a new Civic Center composed of modern, monumental buildings and arranged around a long, landscaped Civic Center Mall took form. The county considered saving the building by rotating it to align with the new street grid, but the estimated cost of $5 million was considered excessive. Instead, the wrecking ball came. In 1973, the idiosyncratic Hall of Records gave way to a blacktop parking lot—recently converted into the easternmost section of Grand Park."*

AFTER
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/KbZEg3.jpg
gsjansen /W&P


*Text courtesy of our friend, Nathan Masters at Lamag


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Just guessing, Noire1, but perhaps the immediate adjacency of the Santa Ana Freeway, which seems to have been built in that section circa 1952, had something to do with it. Maybe the streetlights on Telegraph Road confused drivers on the freeway and made them suppose that Telegraph Road was part of the freeway, with accidents and other automobiliac hijinks ensuing.

:shrug:

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Since they are no longer being used can I have one for my back yard?

I don't know how long the street lamps have fallen into disuse but. . .

. .unless I'm seeing things - it appears someone has secured the lamps with wire in hope of saving them.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/13u4aU.jpg
Telegraph Road

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Thanks!
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Could the woman in the row of photos be Mary Astor? Kind of looks like her & she was a big name at the time - mid/late 40's.

We Noirishers are not ordinary mortals. Half a mustache is a trifle. Where else will you find people who can pinpoint a location by the contour of the hills in the background? Who but we happy few have among us those who can give you the street, block and address by the reflection of a passing bus in a storefront window? Look upon our gifts and despair.

Noirishers
 

Connective people on almost everything !

Enlarged, slightly enhanced versions of the three "unknowns":

https://i.postimg.cc/2SyncvFq/Portraits.jpg

Here's the first face after running through the (rather amazing) AI-driven facial enhancement program at:

https://app.baseten.co/apps/QPp4nPE/..._views/RqgOnqV


http://www.boebertandblossom.com/LANoir/UnkFace.jpg

It couldn't handle the other two.

Cheers,

Earl

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In the original photo panel posted by Ethereal, the lady on the right is next to Danny Thomas. Could the photo be Marjorie Lord? She played Danny's wife during most of the DT Show (first called "Make Room for Daddy"). It would make sense for the bar owner to place a photo of Danny's TV wife next to his photo. Jean Hagan played his wife in the first couple of years of the series, but I don't think it is Hagan (best known for her roles in "Singing in the Rain" and the "Asphalt Jungle").

The fellow on the left might be an older (1950s) Errol Flynn, but that is a guess, except his facial features are somewhat like EF, plus what appears to be a pencil moustache.

The other photo is too fuzzy to identify. Is he at a piano? Wild guess...Tyrone Power???

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Yes, I'm pretty sure the one gent is at a piano keyboard, so he's likely a composer, bandleader, or singer (or all three).

Now back to the Grindall Co.:

Close examination of the peeling paint on the building in one of the GSV images shows the ghost of the aforementioned circular saw.

https://i.postimg.cc/ZqrPpmxj/grindall.jpg
gsv

The white dot you see is centered above the building's front door. I'm not sure just what it is--some structural feature or what--but if one looks closely one can see a couple of inches "out" the remains of a circle . . . and then a couple inches further out (you can see it best outwards to the right) the faint remains of the jagged circular line of sawteeth on the circular saw. They took advantage of the presence of the white dot to use it as the axle of the saw blade.

And so we have at least that ghostly reminder of something which enriched my daily drive for a year once upon a time.

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A mystery location courtesy of eBay.

Seller's description:..."Original 35mm Slide - Summer Lights of Los Angeles by Night June 1969"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/Mc8BaT.jpg
eBay / June 1969

I've looked at this view for quite some time and can't figure out where the photographer's vantage point was when he/she took this image.

Does anyone recognize what we're look at? :shrug:..Is it Los Angeles?


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Seems more Tokyo at night...

Did L.A. have any automat style cafeterias back in the pre-1960s, or were they mostly slide your tray cafeterias?

I don't know about other city's noirishers, but LA noirishers are the best. :haha:

whenever I go through this part of ssp, this tune is always playing in the back of my mind...


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A mystery location that is definitely Los Angeles.

I've had this photograph in my files for quite some time but never got around to posting it.

The description is rather vague... "Bridge Const. Los Angeles 1948"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/eKiW2O.jpg
probably eBay but I can't remember for sure.

Do any of you fine noirishers recognize the bridge being constructed?


Did anyone notice something odd going on with the house being moved and the truck at lower right. - - - - >
The truck appears to be holding up the corner of the building. .but it's no doubt an optical illusion caused by the shadows.


Oh, and one more question. Does anyone know where the displaced building(s) were moved to?


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Here's another mystery location for this Wednesday afternoon. :)

"Vintage Photo Slide 1981 Jesus Saves Church Los Angeles California"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/W3brLR.jpg
Currently on eBay

Obviously this is a repurposed building which makes the image more interesting (to me anyway). There's a street sign but it's much too small to read.

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I believe this is Dewap/Figueroa/Temple in downtown LA. I've seen "Dead Ringer" with Bette Davis too many times, haha. You know the movie where she plays twins, and Bette Davis acts like she's trying to outdo Bette Davis doing Bette Davis. :P

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0601...4!8i8192?hl=en

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There was an automat on Hollywood Boulevard in the 1960s, but it didn't last long.

Turner Classic Movies (TCM) just had a wonderful new 90 minute documentary on the Horn & Hardardt automats back east, most in NYC but some in other cities like Philadelphia. The places featured good food for low prices. Many of the items were just 5 cents, or sometimes a bit more. You put your coin in a little door with a window, and took out your pie slice or sandwich or Salisbury steak and hundreds of other items and took it to a table. They interviewed lots of celebrities like Mel Brooks and they all raved about the place. Most of the automats closed by the 1960s, although a few lasted somewhat longer. The last one closed in 1991. One problem was that homeless people would come in to keep warm or eat scraps left over on trays, or panhandle for coins, and ultimately paying customers stayed away.

I happened to watch it last week and enjoyed it very much. It's called The Automat and it is currently available on Kanopy, a free streaming service available via many public libraries and universities.

I caught part of a marathon of Highway Patrol episodes on TV recently. Not a great show, but they frequently shot on location and that always interests me. Here's some frame grabs from a 1959 episode with a scene at the Bronsonia Prescription Pharmacy. It sure looks like the interior was not just a set but the actual pharmacy.

https://i.postimg.cc/4d7PkZgW/Bronsonia-1.jpg
[source: Decades TV]

https://i.postimg.cc/Kz6NmVcx/Bronsonia-2.jpg
[source: Decades TV]

https://i.postimg.cc/8cLbcHsW-/Bronsonia-3.jpg
[source: Decades TV]

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Handsome Stranger:

https://i.postimg.cc/HnxDSpxw/Bronso...1959-11-29.jpg
LA Times, 11/29/1959, in ad for "Coty's New 'Exciting Eyes'," location Franklin at N. Bronson.

Yes, sopas ej, I think you're right. The view changed once the bridge was constructed!--something which was indeed projected to take place at this location in 1948.

https://i.postimg.cc/GmpKHHfJ/Figueroa.jpg
gsv

https://i.postimg.cc/RqxrvwdR/Fig-LAT-1948-1-2.jpg
LA Times, 1/2/1948

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Figueroa and Temple streets.

"All of the structures seen here have since been demolished. Cars are traveling south on Figueroa Street near where it crosses Temple Street (center, right). Boardinghouses and a billboard are seen on the left".

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/XuESDi.jpg
calisphere Photograph dated September 12, 1940.




I believe this might be the clapboard house that is being moved (or demolished?) in the 1948 photograph.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/NkrZie.jpg



The utility 'pole' on the roof would explain the odd wooden structure seen near the roof in the eBay photo, below.



This stuff. (it's falling over)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/2aR6Pl.jpg


What do you think. . .a possibility? :shrug:

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https://i.postimg.cc/pT8hgNRH/WAD253...NLUTTT4-FB.jpg


2530 SOUTH FIGUEROA STREET 1892-1929

A friend of my residential-histories effort recently sent me a found postcard depicting a house once at the NEC of Figueroa & Adams--now the site of a Popeyes and a mini-mall. It has provided me with a much better image of the house than I'd been able to find before. Doubly interesting is that the card was written by someone who lived in the house and very likely wrote it there. Full story here.


https://i.postimg.cc/J0kfNqNK/WAD2530-SFigpostcard.jpg

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That's such a fantastic house and postcard, GW. Thanks for sharing it with us. :)

You did an excellent job covering it on your blog.

Go to 2530 South Figueroa Street
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Great historical overview of the house and the site, Gaylord. Thank you!

I was able to read "Community Bible Church" on the side of the building above the mailbox. The 1987 LA Street Address Directory
lists that church at 1431 West Vernon Avenue, which is shown here in August 2022:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...non_-_1024.jpg

GSV (NWC of Vernon and Brighton)


It was built in 1911 as "store and living rooms above":

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag..._Ave_-_768.jpg

LA Department of Building and Safety

The current GSV of Bronson and 5889 Franklin Ave. has that block of Bronson with 1800 street numbers, but the Highway Patrol Photo has the Bronson street numbers with three digits.

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5889 Franklin Ave is the location where the pharmacy used to stand, now a Gelsons Market. If you check the addresses in the block to the west, you will see that the numbers are in that correct range. As for the "three digits", there was no address on the pharmacy building. I think you are looking at the street sign for N. BRONSON AVE believing that the ave is a 3 digit number.

I wrote and published a book on the locations used in the Highway Patrol series. There are over 500 pages in the book with most of the 600+ locations used on the series included in the book with then and now photos of each. Each episode was filmed in 2 to 3 days, with the equivalent of 1 day being used for interiors at the studio, and the rest of the time on location or on the studio's small backlot.

Jerry

What is the name of your book?
 

Very interesting! What is the name of the book? Is it still in print? My first stop would be Amazon.

Thanks. I missed the first 30 minutes on PBS, so I'll try to watch it on Kanopy. Can I access that for free on my tablet? Did L.A. ever have an "automat"? Is the Clifton's cafeteria reboot still open, or did the pandemic shut them down?

Maybe a way to bring automats back would be to purchase an entry card at the door for, say $10 or $20, and you could place the card in a card reader at the windows of the items you want, and you get the items. If you spend less than $10 or $20, you get your money back at a card reader as you exit in one hour or less after arrival. Doing it this way would keep the place for paying customers, not freeloaders and hangers on. This is the way FedEx stores work. You get a card, put money on it at a machine, and you go make your copies or send your faxes with your card. System should work at a new automat.

HIGHWAY PATROL LOCATIONS THEN AND NOW and MORE HIGHWAY PATROL LOCATIONS are not available on amazon at this time. They are available on barnes & noble as well as my own web site at this link: https://www.angelfire.com/film/locat...ormingarts.htm