The sleekness of that design is it's appeal, for sure. Too many fat boys in the Hudson Yards. But that what it was planned for.

A literal glass box is futuristic?

Fuck me right?

Imagining the day when we can get this tower rising in this view....:cheers:



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North of Hudson Yards will be known as "The Land of the Tall Boxes".

Agree,Those big boxes are just austere and depressing lined up in a row like that. So disappointing!! Aloof and cold, this corporate alley is just not a great place.

I wish they'd put ground floor retail all around the bases of these towers. But they're not.

it's like the new 6th avenue :yuck:

^ It’s the new Park Ave, complete with a Foster designed tower. He needs to get one more there to make it a thing.



The gf retail was put in the zoning. The Spiral had to get approval not that long ago for slightly less retail, but it will be there.

NYGuy, do you have any idea how much retail overall within those towers? And what do you mean by get one more tower there?

I’ll have to go back and look at the specifics for how much retail, but it’s pretty much that way for most of Manhattan, particularly with office towers on main avenues.

Here’s how it’s broken down on this site, with design controls calling for retail...


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Here’s an example of how the retail shapes up around the Spiral (shaded areas).


https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...B450B8303.jpeg

^ Thanks. That's much better than I thought it would be.

Here's just a little bit more on that, if the zoning-speak doesn't have your head spinning...


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It's the sleekness of being a clean, uniform glass box without any visible columns or vents for mechanical floors that makes it look futuristic. 4 WTC achieves something similar.

Thanks for your offer but no thanks :D

NY zoning and city DOB codes need to be changed. Also, the sky plane requirements need to go. Results in some ugly street/tower interfaces.

Its just a convoluted maze to navigate much of which relies on pre-1970s rubbish.

Peek into the pit of 3 Hudson (left) and site prep on Related's residential tower (right)...


https://www.instagram.com/p/B7r1-jgFfxr/

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They will still find away to build some boring ass box anyway, zoning changes or not. That's the design philosophy at the top. Zoning changes will do little if the dinosaur developers don't change their thinking on design - efficiency first, design last.

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Credit: bleak

I have to agree... Although I find the Hudson Yards development to be exciting for city, and you can't deny it's impressive scale, it's architecturally uninspired... They could've designed some really impressive buildings here, but they didn't....

you might think, but actually, in reality when you are there on the new hudson blvd, with all the construction going on, and all the shoppers and tourists and shed, vessel, highline park visitors, workers, commuters and javits conventioners, its anything but aloof and cold. its already full of bustling humanity just like anywhere else in the area. and that will be much more so with the western yards residential and plaza additions. :tup:

http://www.moinian.com/3hudsonboulevard/




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