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Innsertnamehere Jan 3, 2013 6:59 PM

TORONTO | One Yonge | 1,131 FT / 344.6 M | 105 FL | 1,004 FT / 306 M | 92 FL
 
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6lvEnsiEAT.../100storey.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1oCPcyUHIq...tar-Street.jpg

caltrane74 Jan 3, 2013 7:01 PM

OK. Your links are working now!

Innsertnamehere Jan 3, 2013 7:04 PM

ah yes, the perils of linking UT hosted images.. (they work fine for me)

DrNest Jan 3, 2013 9:21 PM

Um, I can't get the links to work. Is it because I'm not a member of UT?
Any chance of posting the images for all to see please? Thank.

Innsertnamehere Jan 3, 2013 9:24 PM

should be fixed.

Gresto Jan 4, 2013 12:34 AM

No doubt there will be naysayers, but I like these designs based on the relatively rudimentary sketch posted above.

Crazy, crazy, crazy, if all of these recent gargantuan proposals see the light of day!

koops65 Jan 4, 2013 1:33 AM

8 of the 10 tallest in the city proposed in the last 9 months...

DrNest Jan 4, 2013 1:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere (Post 5958103)
should be fixed.

Yup, working for me now. Thank you

DrNest Jan 4, 2013 1:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gresto (Post 5958376)
No doubt there will be naysayers, but I like these designs based on the relatively rudimentary sketch posted above.

Crazy, crazy, crazy, if all of these recent gargantuan proposals see the light of day!

I really like the look of the tallest two towers based on the above images.
I'm not so sure on the shorter two's slants, but I will admit that it's something that could grow on me

Innsertnamehere Jan 4, 2013 1:49 AM

koops must be screaming to himself about all these drawings he has to do.. 5 new towers now!

koops65 Jan 4, 2013 2:03 AM

I've made the 2 tallest, but those twin 215 metre towers with the crazy angles look daunting to say the least... give me some time on them.

Gresto Jan 4, 2013 2:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrNest (Post 5958479)
I really like the look of the tallest two towers based on the above images.
I'm not so sure on the shorter two's slants, but I will admit that it's something that could grow on me

I actually love them, if they are in fact offset as shown. The taller two are less adventurous, but I find them very pleasing as well.
Quote:

Originally Posted by koops65
I've made the 2 tallest, but those twin 215 metre towers with the crazy angles look daunting to say the least... give me some time on them.

Where have you found heights on any of these? Do tell.:yes: 215 m. is a bit disappointing.

J_M_Tungsten Jan 4, 2013 3:02 AM

It looks like a white cactus :D I like it though

caltrane74 Jan 4, 2013 3:04 AM

The 70 Floor Menkes Towers were 239 meters, and the 67 floor ICE Tower is 235 meters, what gives here?

koops65 Jan 4, 2013 3:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gresto (Post 5958522)
Where have you found heights on any of these? Do tell.:yes: 215 m. is a bit disappointing.

With an illustrators account you can click on the "Upload a drawing" link on the building page, and it will tell you the estimated height.

Whoever entered the One Yonge development into the database put in the estimated heights. I definitely suspect the numbers are low, at or near the minimum possible heights for these towers. I mean, the tallest, 98 floors, doesnt even break 300 metres (298M), and the 92 floor tower has an estimated height of 280 metres. But they are just estimates, and we will have to wait for Pinnacle to release the true heights.

Innsertnamehere Jan 4, 2013 3:43 AM

the office tower in the image should be between 170-180m if you are comparing it to 1 york, which is just 1 floor shorter than this proposal. I think it is safe to say the 70 floor proposals are just 215m tall.

caltrane74 Jan 4, 2013 3:53 AM

I don't think its safe to say a 70 Floor tower is 215 meters.

L Tower is 58 Floors and is 205 meters.

70 Floors is bare minimum 225 meters.

Aura is 78 Floors and 273 meters, but here 92 Floors is 280?

Gimme a Break!

Innsertnamehere Jan 4, 2013 3:58 AM

my official guesstimates based off of a 180m office tower, and counting floors presuming them to be 3m tall:

http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps115a3950.jpg

Gresto Jan 4, 2013 4:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koops65 (Post 5958652)
With an illustrators account you can click on the "Upload a drawing" link on the building page, and it will tell you the estimated height.

Whoever entered the One Yonge development into the database put in the estimated heights. I definitely suspect the numbers are low, at or near the minimum possible heights for these towers. I mean, the tallest, 98 floors, doesnt even break 300 metres (298M), and the 92 floor tower has an estimated height of 280 metres. But they are just estimates, and we will have to wait for Pinnacle to release the true heights.

I see. Maybe I'm talking out of my ass here, but it seems a peculiarly Torontonian phenomenon for there to be a bevy of 90+ storey proposals afoot (Mirvish trio, Oxford duo, 1 Yonge duo), and only a couple of them barely crack 300m or 1000ft. It must be the notorious Toronto Cheapening® in action yet again.
Not to revive a tired city comparison again, but anything 98 storeys in Manhattan isn't going to be tolerated at under, say, 1100ft, minimum.

Innsertnamehere Jan 4, 2013 4:03 AM

because anything built in manhatten that tall will be a superluxury building similar to the four seasons or shangri-la. (you would be looking at 384m if built to the four seasons floorplate size)

JDRCRASH Jan 4, 2013 4:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caltrane74 (Post 5958680)
Aura is 78 Floors and 273 meters, but here 92 Floors is 280?

Gimme a Break!

Is the taller one primarily residential? Office buildings tend to be taller than residential ones with the same number of floors?

scalziand Jan 4, 2013 6:09 AM

Soooooooooo close to breaking that 100 floor mark.:irked:

caltrane74 Jan 4, 2013 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDRCRASH (Post 5958701)
Is the taller one primarily residential? Office buildings tend to be taller than residential ones with the same number of floors?

Aura is residential....

M II A II R II K Jan 4, 2013 3:40 PM

Another supertall proposal?

Is now waiting for the latest photoshopped skyline.

caltrane74 Jan 5, 2013 1:08 AM

I tried and failed miserably.

Waiting for a pro to take over.

Fatality Jan 5, 2013 3:22 AM

Good times for Toronto :D

Might I also point out that the tallest of the proposals isnt a simple circular tower but more like a Reuleaux triangle shape. It is a small detail and a preliminary drawing but wow am I impressed. Toronto may be finally breaking out of that substandard phase of its.... Or am I saying that too soon? :P

M II A II R II K Jan 5, 2013 3:25 AM

The city has also had a good track record of not having cancellations for these major projects that appear in a plentiful fashion.

And most of those high profile projects that do get cancelled just end up getting built by someone else with a different design. Which has been the consistency taking place since the turn of the century.

Spocket Jan 5, 2013 3:32 AM

Um... all this is great but where is the little information we have coming from ?

I mean , who is proposing this , what's the timeline , what kind of buildings are these , etc. ?

All I see are a couple drawings and nothing else. Kind of tough to take this seriously when that's all there is to go on.

Innsertnamehere Jan 5, 2013 3:59 AM

Developer: Pinnacle International
Architect: Hariri Pontarini

tallest 4 towers are residential, shorter 2 are office.

apparently these images were leaked before the developer wanted them to be released, so somebody is about to get fired. (that is probably also why we know so little about it)

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/arti...t-at-one-yonge

koops65 Jan 5, 2013 5:56 AM

I made drawings for the 2 tallest:
http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=27466
http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=5304
Toronto diagram: http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?cityID=12

caltrane74 Jan 7, 2013 4:15 PM

Preliminary City Report on the Monster Towers



CONDOMINIUM APARTMENT BLDGS, OFFICES, RETAIL
Proj: 9170639-1
Toronto, Metro Toronto Reg ON
PREPARING PLANS
1 Yonge St, M5E 1W7
$100,000,000 est
Note:
This project is very preliminary. Scope of work is subject to change. Applications for rezoning have not yet been submitted. Further update spring 2013.
Project:
development which will include a 98-storey tower, a 92-storey tower, two 70-storey towers and a 30 storey office building. The existing office building on this site will be retained.
Scope:
98 storeys; 5 structures
Development: New
Category: Apartment bldgs; Commercial offices; Retail, wholesale services; Restaurants

koops65 Jan 10, 2013 12:33 AM

I've finally finished the drawings of One Yonge towers 3 & 4:
http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=5331
http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=14946
Toronto diagram: http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?cityID=12
Despite being over 700 feet tall, they are on the second page...

Fatality Jan 11, 2013 10:17 PM

^ Wow I was sure those two would have made it on to the first page. Just goes to show how far these proposals are pushing Toronto.

koops65 Feb 11, 2013 8:21 PM

I made a diagram of the office tower: http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=56267
Toronto diagram: http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?cityID=12 on page 3.

isaidso Feb 22, 2013 9:31 PM

It puts things into perspective when one realizes that only 6 of the top 25 in that Toronto diagram currently exist.

cruzin4u Mar 8, 2013 1:18 AM

According to UrbanToronto, the plans have changed.

1 Yonge will consist of 6 buildings (not 5 buildings) with the tallest at 88 stories (no longer 98 stories).

The Toronto Star building would see additional floors added, while a new 40 storey office building would be built on site. A new 70 storey tower with hotel component has been added as the 6th building.

The remainder of the towers heights are as follows: 75, 80, 80, and 88 storeys.

So we have 88s, 2x80s, 75s, 70s and 40s.

Some new renderings of the base courtesy of UT and Architect Hariri Pontarini.

http://www.candidbling.com/1YONGE-1.jpg

http://www.candidbling.com/1YONGE-2.jpg

http://www.candidbling.com/1YONGE-3.jpg

http://www.candidbling.com/1YONGE-4.jpg

Innsertnamehere Mar 8, 2013 2:18 AM

I don't like the way they seem to want to add on to the Toronto Star building. the Toronto star building should be restored without the office addition, maybe add 5 floors to the other office building to compensate. Similarly, I don't like how there are 6 buildings here, there shouldn't really be more than 4. Again, take the density off of those 2 now eliminated towers and add it to the others. I'd actually PREFER height, even this close to the midrise bayfront area.

caltrane74 Mar 8, 2013 2:44 PM

Sad about the downgraded height, good news about the additional towers.

US Economy and Canadian Economy appear to be headed into overdrive.... I see another condo boom on the horizon.

Waterlooson Mar 8, 2013 4:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caltrane74 (Post 6042923)
Sad about the downgraded height, good news about the additional towers.

US Economy and Canadian Economy appear to be headed into overdrive.... I see another condo boom on the horizon.

The economies may be improving, but they are very far from going into overdrive.... you will see a significant increase in the rate of inflation when that happens.

isaidso Mar 11, 2013 8:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere (Post 6042420)
I don't like the way they seem to want to add on to the Toronto Star building. the Toronto star building should be restored without the office addition, maybe add 5 floors to the other office building to compensate.

Agree, they need to leave that building alone. It pulls the whole area together and the only building with any degree of solidity to it.

caltrane74 Mar 13, 2013 11:16 PM

Toronto Star does an article on 1 Yonge Project: 6 Towers: 75 floors to 88 floors.

In fact it's 70 Floors to 88 Floors and one office tower 40 floors.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013...ront_hume.html


http://www.thestar.com/content/dam/t....letterbox.jpg

cruzin4u Apr 2, 2013 5:13 PM

No supertall here - HOWEVER.... the 272m does not include the roof element (mechanical) so this could still be over 300m.

The tallest of the buildings will be 88 stories (272m).

Buildings range from 35 stories (136m) to 88 stories (272m).

Site is compromised of 5 mixed-used buildings and 1 office building.

Development application taken by mahdial_x5.

http://www.candidbling.com/2013-04-0209.28.07.jpg

http://www.candidbling.com/2013-04-0209.28.21.jpg

Application diagram by Chestercopperpot.

http://www.candidbling.com/IMG-20130402-01788.jpg

LeftCoaster Apr 2, 2013 5:40 PM

Updated the title.

Good luck to Pinnacle getting this thing approved...

caltrane74 Apr 2, 2013 5:48 PM

Interesting layout, I like the pedestrian scale extention of Harbour towards Freeland. The towers, I wish one of them could have at least hit 300 meters. Still though, I'll look forward to seeing some more detailed renderings of the towers themselves.

Gresto Apr 2, 2013 8:53 PM

Thanks for the update, cruzin. Epic development.

blacktrojan3921 Apr 2, 2013 9:00 PM

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH now the developers are just dicking with me ;c; Give me a supertall.

DrNest Apr 2, 2013 9:53 PM

Nice to see the update, but am too disappointed in that at least one tower isn't breaking the 300m mark. I know there's still time yet, we can but hope.

caltrane74 Apr 2, 2013 10:53 PM

That is one seriously big roof element, so there is still a chance it breaks 300 meters.

DrNest Apr 2, 2013 11:19 PM

I would like to see a clearer look at the numbers on the posting. If you're down that way Cal can you snap one please? Cheers.

Gresto Apr 3, 2013 1:18 AM

Redonculous that, once again, an 88-storey building here in TO doesn't break 300 m or (roughly) 1000 ft. Granted, it's a rather arbitrary benchmark, but this is again indicative of the Toronto Cheapening™.


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