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10023 Jun 19, 2018 9:18 PM

^ That last image makes the building look much stubbier and bulkier, I think.

gebs Jun 19, 2018 9:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 8226406)
^ That last image makes the building look much stubbier and bulkier, I think.

I think that's because of the forced perspective, which distorts the buildings on the side to keep them totally vertical.

10023 Jun 19, 2018 9:24 PM

^ You must be right. Its neighbor looks nothing like that.

Jibba Jun 20, 2018 9:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 8226296)
I just don’t see painted concrete elsewhere. None of the big NY towers have it. Nor the bigger London residential towers. And that includes the ones that aren’t all glass. I’m excited for the terracotta on 400 LSD, though that will probably be VE’d out and ruin the project entirely.

Chicago didn’t used to be all painted concrete. And I don’t just mean pre-war towers; somehow it went from marble or white granite (can’t remember) on Water Tower Place, to various shades of pink and red on 980 Michigan, 900 Michigan and others in all of their PoMo glory, to beige paint on Park Tower. And that’s a prime location, so that’s not the problem. Did something change in the building codes? If so, change it back quickly.

But yes, use metal cladding, or stone, or brick would be nice (and actually looks very cool when applied to a large tower). If real stone or some other cladding material is not a possibility for cost reasons, then maybe the ratio of positive-to-negative space needs to change. I don’t think the white paint looks good. It looks like a condo tower in Ft Lauderdale.

I'm not looking at it from the standpoint of how it represents Chicago's civic value, either as a market or a level of standards, though I understand those concerns. Any sheathing would be bulky and applied heavy-handedly; the relative delicateness of the slab edges, as compared to the piers, would be lost. Nouvel's "MoMa tower", for example, looks like a plastic toy, and there are seams all over the place. The visible architectonic quality of the structure is greatly diminished, if not completely absent, and a flat, lifeless representation of it, in the form of the cladding, is all that's there.

While I agree that "painted concrete" can be evocative of things cheaply finished, it's going to create crisply delineated bays covered in glass, which the broader piers will outline and group. I think the final effect is going to look great.

left of center Jun 20, 2018 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by donnie (Post 8226215)
I was led to believe the crown was a no go from the start of construction, has something changed?

I hope your source is inaccurate. That would be seriously bad news.

Hawkeyes10 Jun 20, 2018 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by left of center (Post 8227878)
I hope your source is inaccurate. That would be seriously bad news.

Agreed, this would not be good. By the looks of those renderings in the 1000M sales center, seems to be the case though.

Interestingly enough, McHugh posted on their Instagram a couple days ago that the 50th floor was being poured with only 26 floors left to go. So down to 76 floors with no crown? :shrug:

KWillChicago Jun 20, 2018 11:21 PM

Truly a damn tragedy if that crown doesnt go on top. Goes down 10 points out of 100 in my book.

kolchak Jun 22, 2018 3:32 AM

I thought the crown looked a lot like the early squat antennae on Sears. If it got VE'd out it'll be a shame.

aaron38 Jun 26, 2018 2:46 PM

6-25-18
Also from inside Maggie Daley


http://i66.tinypic.com/29cbfjp.jpg

gebs Jun 26, 2018 4:37 PM

June 24, 2018

From the Roosevelt Collection to the west, very soon to obscure The Grant and One Museum Park from this view.

https://i.imgur.com/tI8moeJh.jpg

AMWChicago Jun 26, 2018 10:29 PM

Is it just me or does this one feel like it's going up much slower compared to 1BP, Vista, Essex, etc.?

PittsburghPA Jun 26, 2018 11:21 PM

Drove past this one today. The profile feels much slimmer as it gets taller. It looks fantastic!

donnie Jun 27, 2018 1:06 AM

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Originally Posted by AMWChicago (Post 8233877)
Is it just me or does this one feel like it's going up much slower compared to 1BP, Vista, Essex, etc.?


When you consider the timeliness then no not at all!

:koko::koko::koko::koko::koko::koko:

Kumdogmillionaire Jun 27, 2018 2:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AMWChicago (Post 8233877)
Is it just me or does this one feel like it's going up much slower compared to 1BP, Vista, Essex, etc.?

Essex is absurdly ahead of schedule which probably throws your expectations off from the start, but this baby is flying. The core is already over 550 feet up!

left of center Jun 27, 2018 3:34 AM

OGP/NEMA finished pouring the first floor at the start of June last year. They are at about floor 51 now (if my count is accurate), meaning OGP/NEMA has been rising about one floor every 7 to 8 days, a rate which is pretty comparable to other poured concrete buildings.

Essex on the Park has been going up faster than OGP/NEMA. Its first floor was poured on the last week of August, and it was at about the 47th floor as of last weekend when I was in the Loop (again, if my count is accurate). It has been rising at about one floor every 6 days.

Essex is going up a bit faster, but both towers are rising at fast and steady pace.

Knightwing Jun 27, 2018 5:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AMWChicago (Post 8233877)
Is it just me or does this one feel like it's going up much slower compared to 1BP, Vista, Essex, etc.?

I hear you. I get that feeling as well, perhaps because I see it everyday outside of my office window. They also may have just finished a transition floor. We'll see if the pace picks up in the upcoming weeks.

Flaccer05 Jun 28, 2018 2:40 AM

June 27

https://i.imgur.com/7K7rDgPh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dNzr9CHh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TzFRVxJh.jpg

PittsburghPA Jun 28, 2018 3:07 AM

Incredible shots!!

Does anybody know why the started the glass in two sections? i.e. the bottom of the building and half way up?

gebs Jun 28, 2018 2:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PittsburghPA (Post 8235516)
Incredible shots!!

Does anybody know why the started the glass in two sections? i.e. the bottom of the building and half way up?

I thought I saw that some glass is recessed while others are flush with the exterior wall. Am I wrong about this?

donnie Jun 29, 2018 5:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PittsburghPA (Post 8235516)
Incredible shots!!

Does anybody know why the started the glass in two sections? i.e. the bottom of the building and half way up?

My guess is to not get in the way of the other workers istalling other essentials!

:cheers:


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