Was downtown for a show last night - noticed the parking lot on the west of 3rd Ave just north of where the Goodwill is going is all fenced up and big signs that say 'no parking'. Is this a site for a project? There were some shipping containers on site that seem like they were related to construction work.

btw - its amazing how many cranes are up on the north end of downtown. With more to come even...

I finally had some spare time to go for a long walk! Even though Skye is almost literally in my backyard (and I hope gets a good restaurant), Palm Court still excites me the most!

https://imgur.com/gallery/Sp4yzsH

It looks like it's where the shipping containers and plumbing were moved from the fenced-in lot lot on the Southside of EnHance. It was being stored there for a while, but I don't know what it's all being used for.

The building just north of the lot is also fenced off. Isn't this the site of a proposed high-rise in the 360'ish range? Not near my computer now to look at my notes.

Your notes:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...usp=share_link

https://i.imgur.com/yvEMf10.png

Looks like this was in pre-development for a while and 360' right there going on will look nice. I love Chicago developers. They like to build.

Palm court really is looking sharp! Much better facade than I was expecting

:worship::worship: I can’t imagine what downtown is going to look like in 10 years at this rate

Fairmont Phoenix Hotel & Residences
 

Looks like a teaser video with some shots of the exterior are up on the Thunderbird Legacy site.

http://thunderbirdlegacydevelopment.com

That looks awesome, where will this be located?

SWC of 1st Ave and Jackson St

Very good to see movement on that project. Getting a high-end hotel in that area might attract other brands that don't exist yet Downtown. The condos might also kickstart a missing component of the downtown residential boom as well.

05.12.23
 

Stayed overnight in downtown as I met up with a few old friends/coworkers. This was my first time seeing all the new development as I no longer work in area. Seriously excited with all the new builds.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...faba777c_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...40f7302c_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6c9e6b18_c.jpg

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Wow looks great and condos! First new condos since 44 Monroe downtown

Great find! I've been asking for updates on this project and glad to see movement. This is a game changer, I think, for the Warehouse District. Hopefully this kickstarts the damn Jefferson Place project (City of Phoenix RFP).

Nice photos, thanks for posting.

Can someone confirm the status of this old house-converted restaurant on the SEC of 3rd Ave & McDowell? For years it's been various cafes and wine and cocktail joints. It appears it is now a new wine bar. It is a really cool old cottage with a unique shingled/shake roof type. It always had a crummy asphalt shingle roof that looked like a cheap repair over half of the roof that bothered me. Now it looks like it might be getting renovated correctly. Although I'm still afraid of an ugly paint job.

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.4657...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.4654...7i16384!8i8192

It is a wine bar. Sauvage.

that new roof cost $80,000 and it wasn't done very tight to save money. wood shingles are crazy expensive

It is impressive they invested so much money in a proper renovation. Glad to see.

Now, I wish the old synagogue on the NWC (recently the old pawn shop), as well as the building immediately west of that would get a proper renovation. I went into the house just north of the old pawn shop when it was an open house years ago. I saw the walled off underground walkway between the house and what was the synagogue. I thought that was an interesting bit of history.

Chris is crushing it in his new location (previously in Churchill). Everyone should stop in there and try his natural wines.

Has anyone heard about these 2 projects? I believe the 1st & Pierce was mentioned a while back

1st & Pierce

Clayco Realty Group has submitted a pre-application to the Planning and Development Department for 1st & Pierce, a 36-story high-rise tower it is planning on 0.9 acres at the NWC of the intersection.

Something new

509 West Monroe Tower

LG Development Group submitted a Downtown Code Fact Finding meeting request to the Phoenix Planning and Development Department as part of a pre-application last November.

The request deals with a plan to build a 24-story development with an estimated 400 residential units and ground-floor retail/commercial space.

https://azbex.com/planning-developme...be-growing-up/

New ASU Medical School!!!
 

Dr Michael Crow is live right now announcing new ASU medical school. Not sure of location yet but I hope it's downtown since they keep referencing the PBC. Hopefully not Desert Ridge area by Mayo. ASU also recently joined AAU so the timing of it all makes sense.

https://twitter.com/AAUniversities/s...587484164?s=20

Anyways, this is HUGE for PHX Metro area!! More details/updates to come as the news outlets pick it up...

• ASU School of Medicine and Advanced Medical Engineering (ASU will offer an MD in this school)
• ASU School of Public Health Technology (focused on healthcare professional training and upskilling)
• ASU Medical Masters Institute (offering a few new medical focused masters degrees)
• Expansion of ASU-Mayo Clinic partnership
• ASU "Arizona Health Observatory" - an "early warning warning system" designed to help state leaders make health decisions based on information and data trends

ASU to open medical school, regents commit $30 million to develop health care
 

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...l/70274498007/

Big news for Phoenix. There are/will be some very strong healthcare options between Mayo’s continued expansion plans, Creighton, Barrow, Univ of Arizona and now ASU. Lots of Biotech jobs and development will be a very nice byproduct and important to the health of the valley by diversifying some of the economy further.

My gut tells me ASU will plant this adjacent to the east end of Mayo where they already have some newer research buildings and will be synergistic to the envisioned Mayo biotech hub. Alternatively I wonder if they plop it downtown? This could be jet fuel to downtown development if the med school etc gets developed there. Tons of students, jobs and the residential and commercial demands that come with it. Wouldn’t surprise me if ASU commits to building a “flagship” hospital as is pretty standard if they want a full slate of residency programs and clinical revenue.

I think both of them are real but they're going to take a while. Clayco is very real with a Biltmore office and a number of projects and construction contracts downtown, LG is already developing Realm on Central.

It's going to take a lot more than $30 million to develop a medical school so while this is exciting news, there needs to be hundreds of millions of dollars for the academic infrastructure to do this.

If I read this 20 or so years ago I'd have gasped so hard my jaw would have dislocated. Nimrods at ABOR have always been the problem, so this is quite the about-face.

Completely agree, I think both are real but would anticipate LG waiting or teeing up the Monroe project for once Realm is done or further along.

1st and Pierce is fully entitled, but I've heard CRG (developer arm of Clayco Corp) has placed it on hold temporarily for 6 months or so to see if they can get better financing. So it should hopefully move forward eventually.

Nimrods at ABOR? I thought the issue was ASU didn't have legal authority to open a medical school. Did that change?

Yes, apparently. And wildy so. This news is astonishing.

ABOR has long historically opposed the development of a medical school in Phoenix.

The fact that UofA is in Phoenix is because of that history. ASU always got the short end of the stick with medical education and as time turned out, the two institutions never got along.

I have a baseball cap with ASU and UofA's logos made from that partnership and it is abundantly clear nothing like that will never be made again.

I don't know the specific history of this and that, but ABOR always seemed to have been dominated by Tucson-area interests.

I am simply bewildered that ASU is allowed to do this all of a sudden. This change of policy is as far from left field as I could imagine.

From what I understand, ABOR has really soured on that school down south over the last couple of years due to the fiasco which was the purchase of Ashford University to artificially grow their online academic presence.

In the AZBOR presentation this AM, Dr Crow mentioned that ASU was approached 20 years ago to open up a Medical School and he said they weren't ready for that yet. I've heard/read similar stuff about AZBOR and ASU since then. I'm glad we were finally able to move past this and get our own Medical School. Cannot emphasize just how important this is...

What in God's name allowed the University of Arizona to sully their reputation with this purchase and then put their name on it?

Bridgepoint was a toxic heap more than ten years ago. I knew people that worked there.

In any event, there will be a shiny new nickel to whoever starts the "ASU Mayo Medical District Development News" thread with consistent information.

I guess the following rendering wasn't too far off and pie in the sky...

https://media.bizj.us/view/img/12459...very-oasis.jpg

PBJ article from March...

https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/...otech-hub.html

I already started the thread. Thanks ASU Diablo!

ASU on the rise yet again.
 

The national education rankings services should have ASU climbing upward as not having a Med School seems to have always held them back from getting a higher rating. When that baby starts to roll this can only help. Also to be connected at the hip with Mayo, you would think, would indeed get those rating services attention.

The Mayo Clinic campus seems like a good bet, but you would think ASU would want a school like this on one of their bioscience research hubs especially when they just announced the midtown hub.

Actual Heigh moving west!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

As for 1st and pierce unless thats the big green building we saw rendered last week its new!

It’s a different one, good to see new activity

Guessing with the declared straight up denial of new housing developments in Maricopa County that rely on well water only, we'll see more density in urban cores. This would just be the beginning of downtown 'rising'. Just hope we can get some signature buildings and something unique/special (like the rising PHX scultpture/tower we dreamed of a few years back).

If only someone with money that cared about this city actually had a vision for downtown...

Pay attention class! I've posted each and everyone of these developments. Heck, I just clarified VeLa and 1st and Pierce on another thread earlier today. These are all searchable on here and are listed on the Phoenix high-rise Wiki and a few other places. The big green one is VeLA (293') and should be breaking ground this summer. 1st and Pierce is a 382' proposal adjacent to VeLa at the former site of the Phoenix Public Market Café and is only proposed right now. Both are Clayco developments.

VeLa: https://claycorp.com/project/vela-phoenix
1st and pierce: https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...usp=drive_link
West Monroe: https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...usp=drive_link

Ya'll need to get organized and put these projects in Notepad or something. ;)

Didn't I have to remind you about the 3rd Ave tower in your Google Drive the other day? :D

Haha thank you for th update, I do have a list of all projects and existing building, I do try to update with any information you provide or what I can find online.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...QQFbECWYX4aAA/

Well played, sir! :haha:

Interesting note on that monroe tower - the location of the site is almost perfect to where the tower will visually be right at the end of grand ave. It should quickly become an identifiable and iconic building for that reason alone, and especially as grand gets more popular.

Iconic is the wrong word tho, I don't think LG is going to build anything "iconic" other than its sheer position.

The word I'd use is "loom" over the immediate area sort of like the wide and squat Met Life Tower in NYC.

Still an improvement though.

This is a really important project because it's presently a total dead zone. This area is surrounded by vacant buildings, the big windowless FOX10 building, govt buildings, a parking garage, the large concert venue. It's basically dead most of the time. I'm kinda surprised they're willing to be "first" but it could be the anchor this area needs.

New Windsor Hotel is to its immediate south, which as a low-cost housing building I imagine brings big NIMBY. It's a cool, historic building though, I can imagine some big hotel chain buying it out and turning into some luxury boutique property...

While on the subject of historic buildings, Monroe Street Abbey 2 blocks east (the church ruins in front of X Phoenix) would be real if someone picks it up and turns it into an event space, or museum, or even a beergarden/microbrewery.

I think those 2 projects alone can really turn around the area, but it'll be close to impossible to do something about them unfortunately unless the city were to chip in and provides alternative housing...

The Edith?
 

For those in the know, has anyone heard any updates re: The Edith? This was the proposed project going in the parking lot right next to Hanny's (SEC of Central/Adams).

I heard that this project recently changed hands and new Developer is moving forward w/ the hotel component with a scheduled groundbreaking date in October? Any truth to this?

Yeah, that's what I mean, not iconic in architecture but iconic in it's position as a prominent view termination, something that we have few of!

I have not heard anything and there hasn't been any new permit activity since 5/21. Some of the permits have started to expire. If there is any truth to a new developer, I hope there is some added height to the proposal.

Did a quick search on Edith and found an updated presentation (November 2022) that has some interesting stuff. Check out page 19. Looks like they are going to build Edith over the top of Hanny's and update the façade. Haven't seen this rendering angle previously. Also page 21 states an additional floor has been added. So that answers my height question. That should bring the height up to about 220'ish.

https://issuu.com/pacifichospitality...ity_deck_v9_hq

Boom! That's it...That was the new developer I was referencing. :cheers:

I don't think it's over Hanny man, it's just the angle. The location even references the SEC of Central and Adams which is where the empty parking lot currently is. If expected opening truly is Q3 2025, then groundbreaking should occur over next couple of months.

17 stories is some decent height, with a rooftop bar & pool. Modern/upscale restaurant will also be a nice tough. Renderings look great.

It's not over Hanny's, that image is technically looking at the building's SW corner, but someone mirrored the rendering in this package. The light rail and bus stop are both on Central which show up in the render as well.

That package lists a April '23 construction start, so hopefully it moves soon!